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The Gaggle Caused A Giggle, Until Later...

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Home Inspector with Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC 3380-000723

It seems to me that there are two reasons for short sales -

1.  The house has decreased in value so much that it is no longer fun to pay for an asset worth so much less than its current value.  And who knows when it will regain its former value!

2.  Something has happened to the finances and the seller can no longer afford the mortgage.

There may be many more reasons, but those seem like the two most prominent to me.

As soon as I walked into the house I saw this gaggle of wires beside an enormous TV!

At first I giggled.  Then I saw a similar one on the other side!  There was so much electronic equipment, and a computer, that two of what you see here was necessary.

Needless to say, this is a dangerous overload of electrical circuitry.  And that cute surge protector on the wall is certainly not adequate.

As we progressed through the house we saw the same thing in the basement family room - enormous TV, the latest of entertainment electronics of all kinds, another computer, etc.  The same overload condition existed here too.

And again, the same thing in all three bedrooms!  Similar large, high-end, new equipment, with similarly overloaded receptacles.

At EACH of these locations were humongous racks of video tapes, CD's and DVD's.  Each of these contained more than we have in our entire house!

My giggle turned to something else as I saw all this.  My client commented, "No wonder they can't afford their mortgage!"  Most of the equipment looked brand new, and many of the boxes were strewn about the house.

Were these people spending their mortgage money on all this stuff instead of paying the mortgage?  The Realtor thought so.  She said they were likely negotiating with the bank and all the while pleading poverty and the inability to pay.

I don't know about all of that.  It isn't my place to judge.  But, wow, what a load of stuff!  The kitchen was old, the HVAC and water heater was all old, and the roof was old.  But the entertainment in this house thrives and is new!  My client, of course, was not interested in their taste of electronics, but the house itself!

My recommendation:  Overloading electrical circuitry can be a serious problem, even in the short run.  Hopefully you will never see a house like this one, but if so, suggest to your clients that this kind of thing is NOT recommended!  And ...  it can be dangerous.

 

 

Posted by

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC  

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia.

Office (703) 330-6388   Cell (703) 585-7560

www.jaymarinspect.com


Comments (26)

Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Charlie - this place was amazing and frankly I was disgusted.  I wondered if they weren't running up their credit in anticipation of a bankruptcy, which you and I get to pay for.

Kathryn - Well, this was truly amazing!  My family room TV, while a big one, is 22 years old!

Aug 07, 2010 08:09 AM
Jim Mushinsky
Centsable Inspection - Framingham, MA

Hi Jay.  I would say unsafe wiring as opposed to overloaded, unless of course you know that the circuit breakers trip (or fuses blow) on a regular basis.  It is easy to see how tangled wires may lead to trouble when unplugging one device for another.  I can imagine unplugging one device to plug in the vacuum cleaner, and then running the vacuum to the end of the cord and....  well all sorts of trouble is possible.

 

Aug 07, 2010 08:36 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Unsafe for sure Jim, but there were two outlets on each side of the equipment wired up just like the one you see in the picture.  And almost certainly on one 15 amp circuit.  It isn't overloaded, though, until you turn it all one at the same time and THEN the vacuum!

Aug 07, 2010 10:53 AM
Russel Ray, San Diego Business & Marketing Consultant & Photographer
Russel Ray - San Diego State University, CA

There is an area here where all the Joneses were trying to out-Jones each other, to heck with just keeping up. You could walk into almost any house and find a 72" plasma television in the family room, a 60" in the living room and master bedroom, a 52" in the three other bedrooms and on the rear patio, a 48" in the dining room and garage, a 42" in the kitchen and laundry room, and a 30" in each of the four bathrooms. They all are in short sales or have already been foreclosed. Well, duh.

Aug 07, 2010 02:17 PM
Sally K. & David L. Hanson
EXP Realty 414-525-0563 - Brookfield, WI
WI Real Estate Agents - Luxury - Divorce

Whoops, whoops whoops....no one knows who purchased what when or what the circumstances were...and no one else gets to determine anyone else's priorities...If the electronics were gifts...or jr worked at a store and got a huge discount...if the sellers got cancer...lost their jobs....every time I hear someone make a comment about a furnishing at a short sale open house "If they can afford this...they can pay their mortgage..." has no insight into the shoes the sellers are walking in or the path they took....short sales are justifiable hardships...not "I don't want to"...and realtors and others who "assume"....well...

Aug 08, 2010 12:43 AM
James Quarello
JRV Home Inspection Services, LLC - Wallingford, CT
Connecticut Home Inspector

It's funny how many times I have been in a home that is a short sale and find a plethora of high end electronics and other gadgets. Not to mention the vehicles, multiple cars, motorcycles, quads and the like. I detect a universal pattern, but I should not assume too much.

Aug 08, 2010 01:26 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Russel - wow, it's hard enough just keeping up!  Just kidding.  My family room TV, while a 60" screen, is 22 years old!

S&D - I think because all the stuff looked so brand new, with all the boxes hanging around, a couple yet to be opened - but you are right, she may have assumed a hair!

Jim - sometimes it does seem universal!  It is easy to assume and hard to judge, which is why I try to stay out of the judgment department.  But man, I don't like paying for other people's vacations!

Aug 08, 2010 02:52 AM
Steven L. Smith
King of the House Home Inspection, Inc. - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham WA Home Inspector

Jay,

Despite the fact that Nutsy always finds James irritating, I have to concur with what he says this one time:People are losing their home but they have a TV screen as big as at the local six plex theater.

Aug 08, 2010 01:44 PM
Robert Dirienzo
HABITEC Home and Building Inspections, LLC - Franklin, TN
Home Inspections - Nashville TN

Jay, this does put a lot of these foreclosures in perspective.  Living within your means is a lesson many still need to learn.

And yes, these overloads can be very dangerous.  You can verify this by shining your digital thermometer on the breakers for these outlets.  They will frequently be much hotter than the adjacent breaker that is under normal demand. 

Thank you,

Richard Acree

HABITEC Home and Building Inspections, LLC

http://habitecinpections.com  

Aug 08, 2010 02:20 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Steven - this house had five of them!  Along with the associated other stuff, worth tens of thousands of $!

Richard - I had an outlet on my camera show up at 160F and you could see the hot service cable inside the wall where it left the outlet!

Aug 09, 2010 11:48 AM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor

wow - I see a fire waiting to happen here!!!

Aug 11, 2010 05:48 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That could surely be true, Barbara-Jo.  Any overload can be dangerous if used too much.

Aug 11, 2010 10:40 AM
Cara Marcelle Mancuso
Golden Girls with SW Desert Homes - Tucson, AZ
Call a Marana neighbor, I'm THERE!

I hope someone told the owners of the house you described about circuit overload. I showed 8 short sales last weekend, and 7 of 8 had large flat screen tvs, gazillions of dvds, and so many other "toys" it was unbelievable.  (the other was vacant) Whatever happened to the premise that you don't buy something until you can pay for it?  My parents gave many a lecture that cautioned against financing more than a home and/or a car.  And in those days, they pretty much thought you should be paying cash for your car, too.  I find it sad that so many people don't understand you can't keep charging.  I see new cars, new homes, new boats, all in the driveways of folks I know aren't earning anywhere near the dollar amount needed to pay those bills. 

Aug 12, 2010 05:14 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

I agree Cara.  It is no longer how much you earn, but how much you can qualify to spend!  And don't worry about paying for it - someone else will when you don't and go bankrupt.

Aug 12, 2010 05:27 AM
Cara Marcelle Mancuso
Golden Girls with SW Desert Homes - Tucson, AZ
Call a Marana neighbor, I'm THERE!

I will add, Jay, that I keep my thoughts on this to myself around clients.  We never know any one else's story.  I just see a trend towards more stuff NOW than I ever did 30 years ago.  Thought provoking post and good inspection tips as always.  I had to go check my computer and printer plugs and wires!

Aug 12, 2010 06:47 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

That is probably a very wise policy Cara.

Aug 12, 2010 07:05 AM
Reuben Saltzman
Structure Tech Home Inspections - Minneapolis, MN
Delivering the Unbiased Truth.

...but power strips are expensive!

Aug 13, 2010 03:21 PM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

Still, Reuben, there were about 30 appliances on two receptacles!

Aug 13, 2010 11:25 PM
Donald Hester
NCW Home Inspections, LLC - Wenatchee, WA
NCW Home Inspections, LLC

Jay,

 That is just sweet ; ) Probably causing a local brown out!

Sep 02, 2012 06:36 AM
Jay Markanich
Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC - Bristow, VA
Home Inspector - servicing all Northern Virginia

'Twas funny, Don, 'twas funny.  Every room!

Sep 02, 2012 07:52 AM