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How To Fix The Jumbo Loan Problem

By
Real Estate Agent with Westcott Group Real Estate Company

 Do you ever think that sometimes the answers to problems are so obvious that it's shocking that others can't see it?  Today on http://www.cnnmoney.com/ there is an article entitled Housing Woes Hit High End.  It's all about how the luxury home market is now being adversely affected by the sub-prime meltdown.  It feels like the fairy tale The Emperor's New Clothes, in that Fannie Mae and the other GSE's (government sponsored enterprises) are overlooking the obvious, easy solution to aiding the Jumbo mortgage market.

 

 

 

 

 

The rug has been pulled out from under the Jumbo mortgage borrower for irrational reasons.  These borrowers have been lumped into one big pool of non-conforming buyers with the same borrowers that were using 106% financing, had no income verification and no asset verification.  In the matter of about a day or so, these very desirable borrowers were suddenly outcasts.

 How does a borrower go from looking like this?...

 

 

 

 

 To looking like this in the minds of lenders literally overnight?

 

 

 

 

 Often times these are people that have a significant down payment to put down on a home (usually at least 20%, but often times more), a verifiable income, verifiable assets and good credit scores.    So what turned them into pariahs in the eyes of lenders?  They were looking for a loan of over the dollar amount that Fannie Mae has deemed as "conforming" which is currently $417,000. 

 

 

 

 

 Fannie Mae bases its conforming loan rate on October-to-October median home sales, but uses an irrational national average instead of a more accurate local average.  However, Fannie Mae makes exceptions to this rate in Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands by increasing the conforming rate by 50%.  If Fannie Mae were to localize their median home sale rates, or at the very least categorize higher areas such as New York and California (for example) in the same manner as Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands, there would be conforming loans in areas that are now falling mostly into the Jumbo category.

 

Why would an area that has virtually no homes even listed for $417,000 have the same conforming loan limits as the areas where most homes are listed significantly higher than $417,000?  It just doesn't make any sense.  And what makes Alaska, Hawaii, Guam and the U.S. Virgin Islands more worthy of a higher conforming rate than other higher priced areas of the country?

 You have to also question the mob mentality of the investor market.  After all, why would they rather buy a loan from a struggling buyer who is stretching to take a loan of up to $417,000, when they can buy a loan of a financially established buyer who can easily afford a loan significantly higher than $417,000?

 

The solution seems simple to me.  I'd love to hear from everyone, particularly mortgage brokers, as to why this solution never seems to be mentioned as a possibility.

 

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Brian Block
RE/MAX Allegiance, Managing Broker/Branch Vice President - McLean, VA
Northern Virginia & D.C. Real Estate

Adam, this seems like a sensible solution.  In Virginia, we also have VHDA (Virginia Housing and Development Authority) which underwrites loans, primarily for first-time buyers with lower income.  They vary their program loan limits and income limits based on the region of Virginia.  For example, in Richmond, you can qualify for a VHDA loan with $64,100 family (2 people) income and purchase up to $288,500.  In Northern Virginia, where I live and work, the incomes are higher and so are the house prices.  So in Northern Virginia, VHDA allows an income of $86,900 and purchase price of $408,100.  

This type of scaling seems to make a lot of sense and should probably be done on a national level as you suggest.  Unfortunately, I have very little say over what Fannie Mae does.

 

Aug 20, 2007 05:08 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
BRIAN:  Thanks for commenting.  I was hoping that you would have had more say over Fannie Mae ;-).  The programs in Virginia seem to make a lot of sense.  To me it just seems like this is a very haphazard way of making decisions based on a statistic that is not at all based in reality for many of the bigger cities.  In fact, we pull the averages up so that the lower end areas will have a much bigger conforming loan market than they even need.
Aug 20, 2007 06:15 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
MIKE:  Thank you for your response.  It's a really good idea to be buying up loans in this area.  I personally think that it was a total overreaction, and now investors are shying away from people that are considered "A" paper.  Unfortunately, on Long Island, I'm feeling the pinch in both directions because a lot of the first time homebuyers fell into sub-prime loans, so there is less activity at the top and bottom, and as a result, in the middle as well.  Thanks again for your comments.
Aug 20, 2007 07:31 AM
Erica Wallace
the Wallace Consulting Group - Boston, MA

Adam, you have such great blogs! I was wondering the same thing. I have buyers now who are looking up to 2 million and I am so worried for them about their mortgage options. I have talked to several mortgage brokers, and only a few seem to think that they have programs to fit their needs. I don't get it. They have strong incomes, steady jobs - he's a surgeon with no student loans as he did his medical school through the army. Like New York, Boston's local average sale price is so much higher - it would make a lot more sense if they looked at that verses the national average. I will keep checking back here to see what others are saying. 

On a side note I need to do more research on how to make mine look as good as your incorporating photos and all that jazz...I have bookmarked some blogs I need to go back and read.

Aug 20, 2007 08:16 AM
Robert Spaight
Homestar Mortgage - Barrington, RI
Adam you are right, in a perfect world the conforming loan limit would reflect the local market but we all know that this is not going to happen.  I too am in an area where the majority of the property values would require a jumbo mortgage.  There are several lenders out there who still seem interested in the jumbo market (at least for now anyway).  However several lenders like Wells Fargo, based on their rate sheets, appear to have no appetite for these loans and have priced themselves out of the market with rates over 8%.  Some have argued for allowing FNMA's charter to be altered to allow them to purchase loans over $417k which would solve the problem so we'll have to wait and see.  I wont be holding my breath.
Aug 20, 2007 08:27 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
ERICA:  Thank you for reading and posting your comments.  I really appreciate it.  That's a great buyer to have, and you're right about him being ideal for a lender as well.  There doesn't seem to be much logic between what is going on and what should be going on.  It's particularly frustrating for people like us in the more expensive areas.  I can't believe that it's gone this far without any changes ever being made, although, I guess when the rate difference was only .25, most people didn't complain.  Now that it's .75-1.00 point higher, it is really having an impact on affordability.  Even if a buyer chooses to do a conforming first with a piggybacked 2nd or line of credit, they are still going to be paying a very high percentage for the 2nd, and the monthly affordability will be reduced.  If you need help working on your photo placement, give me a call while you're trying to do it and I'll walk you through it.  I'll speak to you soon.  My number is 631-357-2036.
Aug 20, 2007 08:29 AM
Paul Slaybaugh
Homesmart - Scottsdale, AZ
Scottsdale, AZ Real Estate
Amen, Adam.  The most stable, least risk taking clients I deal with here in AZ are located in Paradise Valley.  This is as pricey as Real Estate gets in the area.  Many could pay cash for the multi million dollar properties they purchase, but generally opt to finance a good portion.  They'd simply rather not tie that much money up in one investment.  It just kills me that this borrower is being treated in the same manner as the guy with a mid 600 FICO, no assets and a $32,000 salary.  Asinine.
Aug 20, 2007 10:43 AM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
ROB:  Thanks for your comment.  Unfortunately, you're right, it probably won't happen, but not because it shouldn't, but rather because it would take work, and no one seems to want to do anything extra in the interest of fairness.  Having the charter changed would be helpful.  It's clear that Wells Fargo has no interest in these loans, since they're putting them out at 2nd mortgage rates.  If all of the big boys start to follow suit, who is going to offer these very necessary loans?  This could really start to depress prices and stall the market entirely.  Thanks again for posting.
Aug 20, 2007 12:01 PM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
PAUL:  Those buyers that are able to pay cash got there because they were smart investors.  Smart investors know that mortgage debt is good debt as long as they feel like they can put the money to work and have it make more than it would have sitting tied up in a home.  These Jumbo rates may give them pause and create a cash only situation.  We all know what happens to prices when deals require cash-only. The buyers will be in an even better position than they are in right now.  It amazes me that the rates being offered to these cream-of-the-crop buyers is the same as someone that, quite frankly, should never have qualified for a mortgage in the first place.  Thanks for comments.
Aug 20, 2007 12:05 PM
Erica Wallace
the Wallace Consulting Group - Boston, MA
Adam, Thanks for the offer...it's too late to call tonight, but I Will definitely take you up on it!! Thanks also to Rob who offered his assistance with my buyers. I appreciate it..I will let you know how it goes. 
Aug 20, 2007 04:24 PM
Sarah Cooper
Real Estate Shows - Hurricane, WV

Adam, I never thought it would happen.  I'm seeking out mortgage blogs to read.  On my own.  No gun to my head.  And I'm fascinated!  Just took an earth shattering mortgage shake-up, but now I'm here and I'm reading ... and this one was very, very good.  Why ARE some of the more stable borrowers being lumped in with the higher risks?  In my market, that conforming rate might make sense, but in other places that's kind of an average home, isn't it?  

Anyway, I liked your post.  :o)   

Aug 20, 2007 09:45 PM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island
ERICA:  I should be around for most of today taking care of some paperwork.  Call me anytime. 
Aug 20, 2007 11:03 PM
Adam Waldman
Westcott Group Real Estate Company - Hauppauge, NY
Realtor - Long Island

SARAH:  Thank you for your comments.  I admit, that as a REALTOR, I read more blogs from other REALTORS than I do mortgage blogs, but I've always followed the mortgage market closely because I feel that it allows me to help clients and customers out.  This particular situation has caused a squeeze on both ends of the market on Long Island, which I wrote about in my blog entitled The Buyer Market Is Now Being Squeezed On Both Ends.  There is no logical reason for having good buyers lumped in with marginal buyers just because the size of their loan doesn't fit within some ridiculous number, which is why at the very least, this number should vary from Metro to Metro.  Long Island (and other areas around the country) have so many buyers that use Jumbo mortgages this turning of events is likely to depress prices further.  Thank you again for you comments.  I enjoy your blogs as well.

Aug 20, 2007 11:15 PM