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It isn't often that I walk through a new home on a pre-drywall inspection that there is nothing to report!  This is quite the contrast to structural concerns like my post yesterday.

It was very impressive.  I am not one who "has to find something" for the report to "justify" my fee.  When it's good, it's good!  And I say so.

This supervisor had been through the house with his orange paint.  This photo is representative of what he noted.  It indicates a truss connection that is about 1/4" too low.  This would cause a bulge downward in the ceiling drywall.  He wants it shaved down.

People often ask me if this or that builder is a good one.  My answer is that it depends on the supervisor on site every day and the sub contractors.

And I ask my clients:  is your supervisor there every day?  Does he keep you up to date by phone?  Does he respond to your calls?  Is he available?  All those are good signs.  The opposite is not.

My recommendation:   On your pre-drywall walk through, pay attention to the things the supervisor is having done.  His diligence is important!  Pay attention to how he treats the client - his availability and concern.  This is very relevant stuff and important!  And it makes for a less stressful experience!

 

 

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia

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32 Comments on This Pre-drywall Inspection Was A Pleasure

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2010
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I know of some inspectors that would dig and dig to find something. Hey, if it is good, it is good. Why dig up stuff that doesn't amount to a hill of beans. There are no perfect houses in this plane of existence... 

6:36am • #1
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Michael - the house wasn't perfect!  But the supervisor was on top of it.  That is a great sign for my client!

6:46am • #2
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I once had another inspector tell me his job was to find something wrong in order to justify his fee. We get paid for checking the house out, not by the number of defects. Like Michael said, if its good its good.

6:52am • #3
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I agree Jim.  That's what I said, I say so when it's good!  My being there and walking through with the client is justification for the fee.

6:54am • #4
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We coach our sellers...inspectors are paid to find things that are wrong...they will...some not as wrong...or right as others...pre-drywall inspection...great catch ...my guess is that most new construction buyers would not know what to look for....and without a knowledgable agent in construction...you can bet the builder/general contractor won't show them.

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Some home inspectors can also ruin the deal by "trying to find something wrong".

7:17am • #6
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Good to know and I have seen those bulges on ceilings before. . 

7:36am • #7
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Many in our business bitch and complain that an inspector ruined their deal.  I say that's not the case. Generally the inspectors just do their job.  And, their job is to find the stuff that's wrong and may need attention.  That's what they are paid to do.  And frankly I'm happy that they do.  Granted, there are some inspectors who should not be employed as inspectors just as there are a lot of real estate agents who shouldn't be employed in this industry. The vast majority in either field are competent. A thorough inspection saves a ton of problems down the road for all the parties.

8:07am • #8
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Jay, I like to tell my people what I believe needs a bit of attention and that the inspector will provide complete details. If the inspection shows nothing further, but the inspector also explains to the potential buyers the areas of the home that require PM, that will definitely justify the service.

8:31am • #9
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Jay, this show the value of a pre-drywall inspection. Should give the buyers peace of mind.

8:48am • #10
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Thank you posting and sharing your informative article.

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Always enjoy hearing about your findings Jay! Would love to hear more on how to ID chinese drywall. I'm pretty sure you've talked about it before....

9:36am • #12
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Jay,

You are right diligence of the supervisor is definintely all important....sounds like you clients are in for a great new home!

10:20am • #13

Jay,

I've had inspectors find stuff I would never think to look for.

11:10am • #14

Jay,

Having said that, I have never lost a deal over an inspection.

11:11am • #15
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Jay you are so correct!  I think a lot of builders rely on the building inspectors to catch the faults instead of having a supervisor check the homes out.  Quality builders either check the work themselves or they have a competent supervisor.

11:12am • #16
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Must be very, very refreshing to find a sight super that is that on top of his job.  Thanks for the boost in faith.

12:20pm • #17
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Glad to hear you don't just look for any little thing to write down.

12:43pm • #18
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I've had deals fall apart on inspection. But only when cousin Billy was the one inspecting. Good (licensed!) inspectors know what is a real problem and what isn't. Like you said, when it's good, it's good.

12:56pm • #19

It's nice to hear someoen else say this. I have been telling new home buyers that for a long time> That "well respected" builder is only as good as the super on your house.

2:43pm • #20
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I wish my wife had done that on the house she bought (before we were married.... or even knew each other). 

Electrical, plumbing, and even the drywall itself is terrible. I would never buy another house (or a house) from them. 

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S&D - I like to try to point out the good things too!  But I would not trust the builder to do all the work for me, if I was a buyer, and tell me what is wrong.

Michele - I agree.  Some of us are comfortable enough with who we are that we don't try to find something...

Fernando - the truss thing can be one of the causes!

Ralph - I couldn't agree more, with all of that!

Ed - we inspectors are cheap at twice the price!

5:26pm • #22
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Michael - I think pre-drywall inspections are very important!  It is the only chance to see everything.

Don - thank you!  And thanks for stopping by.

Dean and Sonia - I am very glad you enjoy the posts!  You can check out my many Chinese Drywall blogs here on AR or on my website - these two you might find informative:

http://www.jaymarinspect.com/chinese-drywall-problem-manufacturers-identified.html

http://www.jaymarinspect.com/chinese-drywall-gas-emissions-chart.html

Lori - I certainly hope so.  This guy seems on top of everything!

5:30pm • #23
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Terry - I'm glad for you on both counts!  I have never ruined a purchase, but a lot of houses have!

Damon - I had one builder once tell the clients to have my report ready for him so he knew how to bring the house up to snuff...  Disappointing!

Jack - this was refreshing, to say the least!

Thanks Allen!  I am comfortable with what I do.

 

5:33pm • #24
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Julia - I would only go with the licensed guys!

John - the supervisor AND the sub contractors!

Stephen - I am sorry to hear of the problems.  Hopefully you can recitify everything, if they have not already been!

5:34pm • #25
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Jay: My companies have built more than a thousand homes and I've never had a client hire an inspector to do a prehang inspection. Heck, some municipalities don't even do it. But my superintendents always did, and my drywaller had an inspector, too. Most of our homes were specs, though.

6:31pm • #26
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Aaron - pre-drywalls are probably just as important as the final!  Hope I expanded your horizons here!  Look at my post yesterday - would we have seen that after the drywall was hung?

7:03pm • #27
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Hi Jay~  I have to agree with you.  If all is good, just say so. There is no reason to look for something that isn't there.  Clients just want to know the job is done right. 

11:21pm • #28
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And this one was, I think, Vickie.  It was nice to walk through a place and point out good thing after good thing.  My client was put quite at ease also.

6:23am • #29
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Around here, Michael, buyers need the builder's permission to schedule me in advance and I have to send my license, certification and insurance information.  I can't just show up!

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Jay: I agree that the prehang is at least as important as the final.

I was just saying that I've never had clients show up with an inspector for a prehang inspection. In my experience, people who are in the business of building homes are light years ahead in spotting problems.

Municipal building inspectors miss a lot of things because they have way too large of a workload, and in my experience with home inspectors hired by clients, they are always trying to justify their charges by trying to find things that are not really there. But they DO find important things, too, and that's why I would never sell a home without insisting that my clients get an inspection -- new home or not.

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Aaron - once I was in a pre-drywall inspection and the County guy showed up.  I am not supposed to be in the house at the same time as he is.  He came up to me and asked what things I came up with.  I gave him a quick summary and he left, saying, "I'm failing it!"  He was in the house 90 seconds...

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