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DATELINE:  Northern Virginia – the purchaser of a new home was frantic to find a home inspector to try to evaluate why a floor in his home under construction moves up and down. The dining room floor bounces. And not a little bit!

Looking on the Internet, this purchaser was able to find a local home inspector. His popular website offered just the relief this purchaser needed. He determined to get in touch with the website’s principle inspector. Well, it’s only inspector!

Forensic Detective, aka Home Inspector, Jay Markanich, was called to the scene. The home’s purchaser noticed what he thought was a real give to the floor in question. He had brought it up to the supervisor who dismissed it as “normal.” The builder was scheduled to install drywall the next day, which prompted this purchaser to make an emergency call to the Detective.

Detective Markanich came as soon as he was able. And just in time!

Arriving at the scene, Jay was able to prove, to himself and to his client, that this floor was indeed the jumping experience! Detective Jay called it Trampo-Floor, an area almost 3’ wide, and at one end of the room. And it was right in front of a large hole in the dining room wall, about 2’ square, and rimmed entirely with metal. The detective was able to confidently answer his client’s question as to what this hole was intended to be. One of the main level’s HVAC returns!

Not a fan of a return low on the wall in a dining room (Jay’s opinion is that such a placement inhibits the ability to place furniture where desired and can add annoying background noise to dinner conversation), Detective Markanich pointed out that the wall housing the opening was a load-bearing wall, and likely right on top of a steel beam.

Having not been to the basement yet, the Detective determined to see if what he suspected was in fact the case. It was a quick trip to the basement. With his client in tow Detective Markanich turned the corner and made his way to the underside of the dining room.

This is what he found!

Just as suspected! While perhaps not the work of Hammerman, this was certainly the work of Sawman. HVAC guys have a tendency to, um, move things out of the way of duct work they want to install! This case was no exception. This is NOT "normal."

This floor was bouncing because the end of a floor joist was cut!  And bouncing right on top of a gas line!  Yikes!

And the next day the underside of the dining room would have been covered over completely with drywall!

After that it would have been very difficult to determine why such a bounce was present. And much harder to fix!

No wonder the builder did not give this purchaser much notice before announcing the drywall installation!

This reporter’s recommendation: Get a pre-drywall inspection! It is the only time you will have to inspect a house while skeletal! Home inspectors do not have X-ray vision! They may have a good sense of construction and location of things in a home, but the more experienced they are the less they are able to see inside walls. Take the hint…

Oh, Detective Markanich was able to find a bunch of other things which he suspects put off drywall installation a couple of days. The purchaser was, shall we say, grateful! As to the drywall installation? Well, curses, foiled again!

Jay Markanich Real Estate Inspections, LLC

Based in Bristow, serving all of Northern Virginia

www.jaymarinspect.com


 
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104 Comments on Trampo-Floor!

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Kudos to Detective Jay!   Even I know that a bouncing gas line is NOT a good idea.  Of course, had the drywall already been installed, you could have used your x-ray vision!!!!

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I am glad that the buyer called you just in time. Thanks for the post.

7:01am • #2
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JayMan maybe could have used his X-ray vision.

But he was unavailable for this inspection.

I was glad Snidely was foiled again...

7:03am • #3
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Thanks Gita.  Let's hurry and install that drywall - gotta keep the schedule!

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Mark my word Mr. Markanich I will be back to Re-Blog this.  Very important to have a detective like you on the job when a home is being built.

7:29am • #5
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Nice job on those trusses by Sawman. You have to think the HVAC installer must of figured no will know until everyone is long gone into the sunset. There is simply no excuse for workmanship like that.

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Jay - An excellent story to help explain why it is important to have inspections throughout construction.

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Jay, Just curious, what's the proper way to fix this?

Bill

7:39am • #8
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hey "super spector ...good work...i think should consider a cape as part of your inspector attire...wouldn't

the municipality have had a pre-drywall inspection ? They do here...

 

7:46am • #9
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Maureen - there are more and more "professionals" installing things in new construction in ways that are not best practice or professional!  Phase inspections on new construction are essential.

Jim - that guy knew that in a couple of years, after a gas leak or more structural failure, they would never be able to pin this cut truss on him.  You are right, it is inexcusable.

Marc - that was some reporter!  And right on the scene - covered the who, what, where, when and why!

Liz and Bill - that cut truss needs to have a few more inches shaved off and a 90 degree truss put in front of it (you can see the old one they put in the wrong place originally).  Then this cut truss needs to be lifted up and attached to the new support, with straps!

7:49am • #10
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Yes, this was already looked at and "approved" by the "local jurisdictional authority"  Sally!

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Excellent Jay! You are not only an excellent inspector but having the ability to write so well about your findings is truly a find! I have a couple of excellent inspectors here whom I recommend to my clients but whenever I suggest they should blog about their experiences it goes ove like a lead balloon. Keep 'em coming!

7:53am • #12
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Out of sight....

Drywall - the cobbler's best friend.

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This is very telling and typical post about new constructions.. .often times I seen workers  complain about each other and competition amongst them are the norm. 

7:54am • #14
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Wow Jay. THis AC guy was not too bright. Sawing through a support to put in duct work. What will they think of next!

7:54am • #15
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SarahGray - well, thank you!  Do your inspectors have websites?  They SHOULD.  And blogging is one thing that helps propel the site to the top so they get found.  I get 5 or 6 inspections every week just from my website!  And that's in addition to my referred inspections.

Keith - drywall covers a multitude of sins!

Fernando - unfortunately there is not much cream that rises to the top...

Bryant - this happens more often then we know!  They feel entitled to make room for their installations.  Did my blog roar?

8:02am • #16
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A cut truss? Ouch... I just crossed my legs and started to perspire a little. 

8:13am • #17
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LOL...thanks for the morning chuckle - and eye opener.  Always be diligent!

8:13am • #18
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J. Philip - it is interesting that the buyer felt something was wrong, but did not know what.  The supervisor?  He said it was "normal..."  Hmmmmm.

Susan - to say the least!  Glad you got a chuckle out of it.  Although it really may have developed into a serious circumstance!

8:16am • #19
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Interesting case for the Detective! A valid point - once the drywall goes up you never know what lies beneath - until a problem appears.

8:47am • #20

You 'da man Jay! Just goes to show why "new home" inspections are critical. Most people assume that since it's new, there can't possibly be anything wrong with it. Professional inspectors such as you and I are disspelling that myth one home at a time. Eventually the general public will learn. Keep up the fantastic work and thanks for the great blog. 

9:09am • #21
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Jay, I can't believe the supervisor would write this off as normal just to get the drywall people in the next day. This proves the importance of new home inspections. Good detective work.

9:34am • #22
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And it's hard to evaluate at that point Gary, and even harder to repair.

Jeff - thank you!  And how often have you heard from clients that the builder says there have already been 100 inspections on the place, a private inspection is not needed?

Michael - sometimes when I hear of problems over the phone, like this one, I am thinking it will be hard to evaluate and I might have to bring in an engineer.  This one turned out to be easy!

9:37am • #23
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Glad you were able to solve this mystery before it becae serious. Imagine what could have happened if the gas line broke after the home was occupied.

9:38am • #24
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Jay....that's horrifying.....imagine the danger if the floor hit the gas line and snapped it....

9:54am • #26
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That is unbelievable.  I really am amazed how people are too lazy to do the right thing.  I think you need a home inspection even more in a new home.

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HA!  The last home inspection my buyers had on new construction showed that the garage wasn't "connected" to the house. 

A strong wind anyone????

10:32am • #28
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jay, how lucky was the new homeowner to be around & have the knowledge to call an inspector right away...great information to bring forth on new construction potential issues...thanks

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Glad this buyer was persistent ands sought professional assistance quickly!  It's amazing what some builders will try to pass off as "normal" and OK.  Stuff like this is really annoying to me.

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Yikes! As always though, a delightful read.  I adore your blog!  How do the builders react to your findings generally?  Is it hostile or a sheepish reaction?

 

11:18am • #31
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a definite re-blog... I'm so frequently asked... "why should be bother with the time and expense of an inspection... it's new construction and it's all guaranteed!"

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Gee Jay...thank goodness that the GAS LINE would support the weight of the wall AND the China Cabinet with 500 lbs of china...Lol.  Wow...

11:33am • #33
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Scott - this would have been a big deal had it not been found!

Michael - I was surprised not to find a line waiting for a go on the bouncy, bouncy!

Susan - this was a huge problem waiting to happen!

Yvette - that is my experience.  I find many problems in new construction.

11:33am • #34
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Lenn - amazing but, unfortunately, NOT surprising!

Ginny - you are welcome!  I was happy to take the call!

Ralph - if this is normal, I wonder what abnormal would be!  I am bothered too...

Thank you Sheree!  Their reaction depends on the thing found.  I have had whole developments condemned because of a mistake found in one townhouse.  The County thought that mistake, a serious structural issue, was probably made in all the other townhouses and gues what, it was!

11:36am • #35
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Alan - guaranteed?  Define that!  And it depends on the builder's post-construction record - will they fix it?

Bill - well, it is a large gas pipe!  The wall was on the steel beam, but the live load (cabinets, et al) in the dining room would not be!

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Jay,

That is an interesting post. I can imagine all the hoopla in progress.

11:42am • #37
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There were a lot more things on this house Steve.  This one just added to the hoopla!

11:45am • #38
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Always an interesting read.  Continually reinforces the NEED for inspections and at the proper time.

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Jay,

That makes a lot of sense. Have a home inspector examine the construction a few times during the process. It's much easier for the builder to repair before anything else has been added and builders don't like to rip things out.

Thanks for the post. I wouldn't have thought of this, but it makes a lot of sense.

Brian

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Jay - Its always so pleasing to see how the HVAC in the attic is run down here. The installers just flip the claw hammer around and chip out the opening they need through any obstacle in their path... We always recommend our purchaser getting an inspection and attending every walkthrough...

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Nice job, Detective Jay!  It’s shocking enough that the HVAC guy cut the floor joist to “…get it out of the way.”  What’s more shocking is that the supervisor dismissed the construction as “normal.” 

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Jay, did Croakster bouncing across the floor find this for you?

12:54pm • #43
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Hi Jay~  That is why all homebuyers need someone like you on their side so that these kind of things can be stopped in their tracks!

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Yikes !  Hard to believe that would have been left that way.  Well done !

2:18pm • #45

Jay,

I don't think I have ever seen anyone cut a floor joist. That's just too bizarre.

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Jay -

What happened to common sense in home building?  Glad this homeowner found you.  Would love to hear a follow up on what the contractor did/said in response.

MB

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Jay, Owning a handyman business, I deal with lots of these new construction problems, and the worst I've had to quote on is a home with no water barrier. Maybe next is the master bedroom/bathroom over the garage that they forget to insulate so the pipes freeze every winter.

Love your story and my bouncy floors are usually under tile when the foundation isn't level.

 

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Jay - My question would be: Where is the builder or his rep?  It's obvious they aren't doing their job.  Just another reason to make a pre-drywall inspection a must.

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Jay, I think this is an excellent suggestion and one I had not considered before.  I will definitely pass this on to new construction home buyers as a must to find deficiencies that can be hidden by drywall.

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Mel and Gretchen - there is a real need, you are right, and experience is essential when hiring an inspector.

Brian - happy to contribute to your well of knowledge!

Brent and Deb - attics are used here too and they do the same things!

Bill - I often wonder if the supervisors see stuff like this.  Then I come along and in an hour find a dozen problems!

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I'm glad you were called in when you wee.  That could have been disastrous if it had damaged the gas line!  And I love the way you tell the story - quite the true detective tale!

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Charlie - had Croakster been along, he would have made quite the object lesson!

Vickie - would that all home buyers understood that as you do!

Bill - and the guy who cut it thought he would be long gone before it was found...

Terry - unfortunately I see it all the time!  It is horrendous and not professonal.

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Michael - I think I will be called to do a final inspection and maybe then I could report!

Tina - freezing pipes over garages is very common here too.  And don't your tiles crack when they move that much?

John - interestingly, the local jurisdicational authority passed the house making it okay to install the drywall.  How much time do you think they spent on their inspection?

Tammie - that would be a very wise suggestion every time you have a new home buyer!

4:44pm • #54
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I love reading your posts - I learn so much from them!!! And every one is a great example of why a GREAT home inspector is needed!!!

4:58pm • #56
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Thank you Barbara-Jo!  Again...  The market is such that inspectors are needed more and more.

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Jay, this is a perfect case in point why we always recommend that buyers have a professional home inspection even when building a new home. In fact, we recommend slab, pre-drywall and punch list inspections. Good thing the buyer was able to get you there before drywall was put up!

8:17pm • #58
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Sharon - he was frantic enough to search the Internet and found me.  Good thing my website activity has me pop up when people look!  It is hard to keep your rank high enough to be found like that.  Yes, various inspections may be needed with each house!

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It makes you wonder how many other new homes--particularly the same design, built by the same crews--also have that problem.

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Typically, Don, a mistake follows from house to house.  This is not a custom home, so it may be that there are others the HVAC company cut the truss out too.  I won't know until I inspect it!

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There has to be more shoddy work by this builder to be investigated during the process.  I wonder why the new homeowners would purchase a home built under such circumstances. Does this builder have a reputation to consider or are they volume builders?

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This is a perfect example of why a home inspection can be more critical in new construction than in a re-sale.  This would have been a nightmare when the current buyer tried to re-sale in the future! 

Thanks to the Caped Crusader for foiling the Evil Subcontractor and his minion Tight Scheduler!

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Volume builders to be sure Kathy.  There were many more things, all of which postponed the drywall installation.

9:59am • #64
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Donnie - I have recommended, and done, pre-drywall inspections for many years.

 

Is this what you meant by Caped Crusader?

10:02am • #65
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Good catch!  I'm in a home improvement company, and I'm ALWAYS glad for the inspector.  He keeps me on the right, and helps me fix previous problems.

 

10:39am • #66

Excellant post and something all agents that sell new homes should think about......and remember for the next one, get your inspector lined up.

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What was the outcome? Did the builder repair? Did the purchaser buy?

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What was the outcome? Great post! So great I have subscribed to your blog, thanks for the pertinent information!

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That piece of equipment is the same size and in the same location in all the houses.  If I was the contractor I would be asking the designer why the floor joists weren't designed to accomodate the equipment in the first place.  I understand that field modification has to happen on every project, but it should be the exception and not the rule.  It is even worse when it happens on a tract home.

I work with a builder here that will have the truss companies engineer out to certify any floor or roof truss that has been cut.  The person doing the Architectural drawings should make sure the framing and mechanical drawings match, even if they are done by another company.

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So good for you!  There's always a reason, but sometimes it's hidden......    Well sleuthed!

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Jeremy - good to see you work with inspectors.  I wish more home improvement guys did!

Woody - I have been recommending these inspections for years.

Empire - they emailed me to say the builder did repair it, but I don't know if they got it off the gas line.

Valerie - I try to be instructive, but some of my posts are silly too.  Glad to have you subscribe!

You are right Loren.  All should pay attention to see how drawings mesh.  Field modification goes on in every home probably, but this one was a bit severe!  And it was certainly not "normal."

Dagny - a regular Hardy Boy!  This one wasn't too hard to figure out!

11:42am • #72

Like having a built in trampoline.

Great work detective, We look forward to more of your novels in the series

Enjoy the day

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I sold a resale a number of years ago with a cut ...  something structural...  I would guess the house was 20 years old.  I can not remember a lot about it except learning that HVAC contractors don't worry much about what gets in their way, they have a saw.  One thing I remember being an issue was the sellers had the same home inspection company when they bought and it was not an issue...  not the same home inspector but same company. I always wondered if it was noted on their home inspection.  I am glad it was on my buyers. 

Respected builder...  I don't think there was bouncy floor, the house had not fallen down...

I am a big fan of your posts Jay.

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Love the title of this post.   I am so glad that the homeowners found you in time!

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Love the title of this post.   I am so glad that the homeowners found you in time!

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That is a WOW moment! Bouncy definitely needs to be investigated!

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I was hoping someone had actually invented and installed a Trampo-Floor in a house... not compromising structural integrity, of course!

1:02pm • #78
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Unknown Commenters - hadn't considered a series of these, but there are so many structural issues it would not be hard to compile one!

Maureen - I have heard that too, but on another site I offended an HVAC guy!  Thanks for being a fan!

Sharon - I'm glad too!  I try to come up with clever titles, but don't always succeed.

Sally - it was a wow moment.  I was surprised not to find a line of guys waiting to have a go on the floor!

1:07pm • #79
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Benjamin - personally I would LOVE to see that!  How fun would that be?!

1:09pm • #80

Dear Detective,

I love working with inspectors like you.  I have learned an incredible amount in the 4+years I've been in real estate, and much of it is due to my favorite local inspector. 

I will never forget the house I showed with a trampoline floor - not just 3 feet, either, it was the majority of both floors of a very old house, especially the upper floor.  The kids loved it, as that was to be their bedroom and the bounce just tickled them.  Poking around the dirt-floored and stone foundation basement, we realized the staircase had been moved and not properly supported in the old or new position.  We found a few other major glitches down there, the sellers would not budge on their over-priced offering, and the buyers made the right decision and moved on.

Thanks for an excellent post.

Yvonne Wilder (DBR, Kingston NY)

 

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New home builders must hate you.  I tell people to get a home inspection even when it is a new home purchase.  And you are correct if given the chance to inspect while building do so.

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I've never been a huge fan of brand new homes, particularly the subdivision variety. This is terrific advice for both the purchase of a home like that and to point out the possible defects even a brand new home can have - something many new home buyers are specifically looking to avoid when the figure a new home purchase will accomplish this where older homes will have lots of problems. New, older or old, all homes are potential problems and before you move in is the time to do your due diligence and prevent yourself from buying a moneypit!

Great post - thanks!

Stephen Hodge - Ontario

Chestnut Park Real Estate

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Jay,

Very clever story telling!  And who pays for all these "repairs"???  Builder, Buyer, HVAC guy???

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You would be shocked how many times this happens.  Being a Construction Engineer I am always (maybe overly cautious) but have such a fear about the buyer getting further down the line and I get drug into a lawsuit because I didn't badger them to spend the money for a proper "phased" construction inspection.

Linda Jamail Marshall 713-523-4600

Broker/Realtor

Houston Texas Innerloop Specialist

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It pays to have a good builder who know what they are doing, very hard to correct a bad situation after the fact.

2:37pm • #86

Hi Jay, great post, story of a big problem told with some humor.  Drywall covers many sins.

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Yvonne - I am glad you learn from inspectors.  That indicates that you are listening.

Gene - you are right.  I am not very popular.

Thanks Stephen.  Often mistakes in the tract homes carry from house to house.

The builder does Kathy, but it may be deducted from the sub who did the work and cost the extra repairs.

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Nice job Jay!

It is good to see all the positive comments from the real estate community.

We have sometimes been given a hardtime from the listing agent when one of our inspectors finds a significant problem on new construction.

 

 

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Linda - you are right.  I see it often.  And for some reason it is done a lot by HVAC guys!

Deborah - the builder is only as good as the supervisor on site every day and the sub contractors.  At least that is what I tell my clients...

Dale - thanks!  Huge problem.  I am told it was repaired, but I have not seen it since to know that.

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Jon - that is the BEST time to find problems!  Any agent giving you a hard time for something like this should not be an agent.

P.s.  My legal name is Jon!

5:11pm • #91
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Great one Jay. So much for supervisor flub-a-dub trying to hide what was going on. Lucky they also had a basement because you could see what had been clearly done. Sproing! goes the dining room!

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Thanks Lyn!  I am not sure he was trying to hide, but certainly wanted to keep that schedule on track!

By the way, Blog Dog looks almost as fun as mine, which is quite the compliment!

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Jay:  Scary story, great advice, thanks for sharing.

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Yes, Carrie, this could have been a disaster!  The gas line's integrity is crucial.  Over time this one's integrity could have been seriously compromised.

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Jay - This was very well written and fun to read.  Wish you were in my neck of the woods!

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Wow, thank you Margaret!  We used to go to Lincoln every summer but our friend passed last spring.

7:01pm • #97

Jay, that's crazy!  I can hardly believe your photo!  Thanks so much for sharing this.  I hope you won't mind the re-blog.  I have never thought about a pre-drywall inspection, but I will be recommending it to everyone, now!

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No, thank you for the reblog Nicole!  And I am glad to introduce you to a new inspection regimen!

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Holy crap, that's one of the nastier things I've seen on a new construction inspection.  I think that whoever did that had to know damn well what they were doing.

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Of course they did Reuben!  And everyone on site, supervisor included, saw it every day.  Why is nothing done until a home inspector comes along and dings it?  Where's the pride?  And professionalism?

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It is amazing it wasn't caught by the building inspector.  The moral of the story -When something looks like a duck don't be put off when someone says its not.

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It could be, Marsha, that the County inspector did not even go into that room!  And if he had, he might not have noticed the bounce.  He obviously did not go into the basement, as this problem was pretty glaring.

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