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Fitting a Full Bath into a Small Space

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Home Builder with H&H Builders Group, Inc.

We are in phase 2 of a multi-phase remodel.  Mom, dad, kids, cats, and dog living in the house during the process.  Phase 1 is 90% complete: new kitchen in the old screened-in porch (keeping the old kitchen active throughout) and a revamped living room.  Phase 2 demo is complete: old kitchen, breakfast room, office (former dining room), and "1/4 bath" (toilet in a room, that's it, no sink).

Just before phase 2 demo my husband proudly informed me that he had salvaged a low-flow toilet from a commercial project.  We have a rule in our house to keep it from looking like a junk yard: no salvage unless you know exactly what you’re going to use the material for!  I should have seen this coming.  My husband could not stand removing “his” toilet by the garage.  The other toilets are on the opposite side of the house, which, evidently, is too far to go when you’re tinkering in the garage or yard.  Thus ensued a day or so of arm wrestling.  My spacious laundry room had to accommodate a FULL BATH!  “It will dramatically increase the value of the house,” he insisted.  Unfortunately, my realtor friend concurred.  My challenge: design a full bath in as small a space as possible, while maintaining my aesthetic standards without excessive budget increase.  Oh, and still getting the laundry out of the garage.

original laundry room designHere's a drawing of the room without the bathroom components.  Back when it was a spacious laundry room.  We own the new window, so it needs to stay in the plan, in approximately the middle of the wall.  Luckily, it was selected to go over a countertop, so the sill isn't too low.  Hubby suggested putting the toilet across from the door and under the window.  I can understand that he would like to feature this fixture, however I prefer to design bathrooms with the toilet tucked behind a wall or even a pony wall (that's a half-height wall).

The toilet needs to fit into the middle of a 30" wide clear space and must have 24" clear in the front.  "Clear" means there are no permanent obstructions, although it might be possible to encroach a bit with the shower curb (not the shower wall or glass).  A shower must have a minimum 30" diameter circle clear at the interior.  Due to the small room size I designed a shower that is all glass.

When I look at the drawing above I see a glaring problem: the width of the room is insufficient to fit a shower and toilet side by side on the wall adjoining the office and meet code.  Thirty inches for the inside of the shower plus 30" around the toilet plus something for the mortar and tile on the wall, say 1-1/8", plus the shower curb, usually 6" if we build it with tile.  That's at least 67", maybe more, but I only have 62" available. 

Mnew laundry room layouty first call was to the local Building Official.  I wanted to make sure that he would accept the dimensions of the shower interior and the clear space around the toilet as measured from the glass of the shower enclosure, not the curb.  We had a nice exchange of emails where we established an agreement.  Because it's a remodel.  I need to conform to code, but the final definition of code is subject to the determination of the local Building Official.

It took more negotiation, but I eventually helped my husband to come to the conclusion that he needs to move the existing wall of the bedroom away from the laundry room so the laundry room can be a bit wider.  Luckily, the bedroom has been prepared for a three foot addition on the opposite side of the room, so it will still end up being larger than the existing.

Here is a drawing of the new layout.  I'll cover selection of the shower enclosure, sink, tile, and lighting design in subsequent posts.  My husband already took care of the toilet specification :-).


 

Holly Weatherwax
Associate Broker, Momentum Realty - Reston, VA
A Great Real Estate Experience

Thanks for sharing your project...I hope it comes out the way you want it. Post pictures when it is done.

Aug 21, 2010 05:58 AM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

Julia, you've come up with a great win-win solution -- laundry out of the garage, plus an additional bath. Like Holly, #1, we'll love the pictures when its done.

Aug 22, 2010 05:23 AM
Barbara Todaro
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Happily Retired - Franklin, MA
Previously Affiliated with The Todaro Team

Julia....welcome to ActiveRain.....I'm here from the link on Lottie's post.....I'm subscribing to your blog....I list alot of new construction communities, and I'm always interested in reading information from project managers....

Aug 22, 2010 07:12 AM
Anonymous
Julia Harkola, PE, PhD

Thanks, Barbara.  I'm in the process of registering the ABC's of Home Building with the CA DRE so it will be available for CEUs.  Do you have any similar educational opportunities in MA?

Aug 22, 2010 07:42 AM
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Debe Maxwell, CRS
Savvy + Company (704) 491-3310 - Charlotte, NC
The RIGHT CHARLOTTE REALTOR!

Great project plan presentation.  I'm sure the owners will love not having to go outdoors to do their laundry any longer!  Can't wait to see the before and after pictures!

And, again, welcome to ActiveRain!

Aug 22, 2010 06:08 PM
Mary Kay Hopkins
Mary Kay Hopkins, LLC e-PRO, GRI, CRS, CRB - Lake Charles, LA
e-PRO,GRI,CRS

Julia, I'm also here from Lottie's introduction. From this post I can see that Lottie was on-target with her description.  Welcome!

Aug 24, 2010 04:10 AM
Debbie Walsh
SHAHAR Management - Middletown, NY
Hudson Valley NY Real Estate 845.283-3036

Welcome to Active Rain!  Much luck on the above project although it doesn't look like you will need it at all!  Too bad you are in CA as I have a customer right now who could definitely use you!

Aug 24, 2010 11:49 AM
Cara Marcelle Mancuso
Golden Girls with SW Desert Homes - Tucson, AZ
Call a Marana neighbor, I'm THERE!

This is a great post.  More and more, people are downsizing and this shows maximum use of space.  Looking forward to your future blogs - Lottie sent me!!

Aug 24, 2010 11:52 AM
Julia Harkola
H&H Builders Group, Inc. - San Carlos, CA
PE, PhD

If you think I can be of assistance, Debra, I'll be happy to entertain questions here.  Thanks for your kind words.

Aug 24, 2010 12:06 PM
Debbie Walsh
SHAHAR Management - Middletown, NY
Hudson Valley NY Real Estate 845.283-3036

Julia-no, I actually need someone to do the work too.   :-(  But I can tell you are quality all the way and that is why I wish you were closer!  Thank you for the offer though.  I will keep it in mind for future reference!

Aug 25, 2010 07:46 AM
Anonymous
Pauline Wiles

Welcome to blogging! Be careful, it can get very addictive :)

Having 'enjoyed' some ridiculously tiny bathrooms in England (especially prevalent when old London houses are chopped up into flats), I'm sure your new laundry room will function beautifully.

Looking forward to reading about progress!

Aug 26, 2010 05:46 AM
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Julia Harkola
H&H Builders Group, Inc. - San Carlos, CA
PE, PhD

Thanks, Pauline.  I hope you enjoy my latest post.  Hope you can join us for yoga, too!  Next two Tuesdays are in Redwood City.

Aug 27, 2010 05:39 AM
Anonymous
Pauline Wiles

Re yoga, I've been doing a Tuesday/Thursday lunchtime boot camp which is leaving me pretty sore and unwilling to do much the same day.  But I miss the class and would like to pick up again in future, if schedules change.  I also signed up (rather foolishly) for a marathon so am being careful to stretch after each run!

Aug 31, 2010 05:21 AM
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