As we all know and have seen in our respective markets.  There are quite a few Bank Owned properties as well as Short Sales on the market today.

The problem that I have seen in my market is that very few banks have yet to show the need to sell these homes and get them off of the market.  Most of the dilapidated properties that I see on the MLS that the banks own are priced at or over market value.

In the past few months I myself have written offers for different clients on over 10 bank owned properties and or short sales.  Now these clients are not investors but people looking to buy a home for themselves.  They have seen the comps, called contractors and done their due diligence in order to put together a respectable offer.  They in turn have been met with little to no response from the asset managers and when they do we are finding that they are just not willing to budge on the prices. 

In one such case my clients wrote an offer on a home priced at $495k.  The home needed around $35k or more in work and had been on the market as a bank owned for over 5 months.  The home next door had just closed at $500k, had a pool and was in move in condition.  We submitted the offer at $450k which I felt was a very fair opening offer considering the condition of the home and the comps.

After 3 weeks of waiting(which I know is normal and the clients expected) we got a counter offer from the bank at $490K.  Only $5k below full asking price.  I called the listing agent and he explained to me that the bank was not willing to budge on the price and would obviously do no repairs to the home(again to be expected).

Many of my other offers have been met with a similar fate.  So my question here is when will they get the picture and be willing to actually negotiate on these homes?  Do they want to get them off the books or not?  These are clients who have been waiting for the market to shift and are now serious about buying, solid financing and good money down.

 

18 Comments on When Will the Banks Get Serious about Selling their Bank Owned and Short Sale Listings?

AUG
23
2007
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Joe..........Man, I am with you 100%.  I am working with 3 short sales right now and the banks are holding firm to prices and other demands.   Can't wait for them to get serious.

Duane Hosek in the Black Hills of South Dakota

1:26am • #1
They will get the picture when they finally realize that prices will not go back up for sometime.  When their list of REO's grows to the point that it is affecting their bottom line they will begin to wake up and smell the coffee.  Seems to me like that would take advantage not to get them sold but they still have greed in their eyes.
1:29am • #2
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Duane - It can be so frustrating not just for us as agents but for the buyers as well.  I have a couple clients right now that are totally turned off to the idea of even trying to deal with a bank owned listing right now. 

Darrell - I agree, I think that many of them are still thinking that they can get away with it and have not seen the big picture just yet. 

1:37am • #3
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I think I sold and REO today, just awaiting final word. Hopefully so . We had to come in over the list. But still under market value of last properties like it that sold earlier this month. The agent and lender had it buffed out. I will grant you this was an unusual experience of having things at least appear right from the start. I credit the agent as much as the lender. It is how I would do it as well. They either buff it out , or I walk. I am hearing overtures from a well known attorney that my name was thrown about in a good way with a major lender. He suggested I would be hearing from them soon. I actually sell everything I list in a rather short periord of time. But I can work months ahead of lst date getting things right. A lot of work and I do not take fees or extra commsission. My clients pay the bills and I have the cleints have all the contact with the workman. I figure everyone benefits and I have a passion for making things as A Ok as possible.
1:41am • #4
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With so many homes in foreclosure awaiting auction I would think they'd happily sell for what they can because the numbers are only going to increase.  I agree it'll be awhile before the market shifts upward and do they really want to take that chance when they have ready and willing buyers now???  Go figure!
1:42am • #5
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William - Early congrats on the deal.  I hope that it goes through for you.  Sounds like you had a great experience on this one.  I wish I could say the same.  I hope that you do well with the lender as well.  Good luck.

Sandy - That is exactly what I thought but I guess they are going to try to squeeze every bit that they can out the inventory that they have right now.  I cannot say that I blame them but at least entertain a decent offer don't chase the buyers away all together.

1:46am • #6
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I don't get it either. We expect banks to be realistic about financial matters, but what I'm seeing proves otherwise. 
1:59am • #7
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Won't be too much longer with recent news.  Bottom line, a bank owned property is producing zero revenue, and I'm not sure most bank's shareholders are going to enjoy reading massive inventory reports.

2:11am • #8
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Rosario - I agree, I would also think that they would want to move these as quick as possible

Karl - I do not think that is will be much longer either.  When they put out their quarterlies it should be very interesting.

2:15am • #9
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It is a very frustrating process sounds like in all of the parts of the country. Number one you have to find the person that is handling that particle property and there are hiding from you and then you have to convince them to sell. Crazy! Have you ever had one where there aren't accepting offers at this time because they still need to process the property? That was my very favorite one!

   Sonja Babic New Bern North Carolina

4:04am • #10
I have an answer for you, Joe. ...when the banks run out of money. If you haven't noticed lately, banks are still building branches.
4:47am • #11
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I have been dealingwith the bank from hell and am getting ready to write a post about it.  They are so slow it is amazing anything sells.  They are going to mess up on selling the properties they own and then turn around and ask for a government bail out.
7:20am • #12
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Good post Joe! 

I think there are a variety of factors at play.....banks not having enough staffing and qualified individuals that can adequately assess the home and market area.  It appears they have an internal formula they follow and right now at least, are not willing to deviate from that.  It will be interesting as the numbers mount to see how they will handle this situation.

4:13pm • #13
I've been hearing rumors that some banks are starting to deal with this-even hiring extra staff.  I think change is in the air.
5:44pm • #14
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I don't think most of the banks actually have enough staffing to take it seriously...yet.
11:32pm • #15
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24
2007
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Joe, my guess is if the banks don't take things seriously, then the trustees who take them over will!

Now have a blessed day,

John Occhi, Hemet CA REALTOR
Mission Grove Realty
9:14pm • #16
AUG
25
2007
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Sonja - Yes, I have had that one as well.  It is amazing what they com eup with.

Todd - I know what you mean but I really just do not get the way they work sometimes.

Teresa - I agree, they are frustrating good buyers.

Ana - You are so right.  They are way understaffed and the people handling the files have no experience in these types of dealings.

Rita - I will be curious to see how that develops as well

Marlene - You are correct again, they are grossly understaffed and have little to no experienced on these issues.

John - Interesting concept and one I would almost like to see happen

11:42am • #17
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10
2007

I have just about given up on foreclosures.The banks aren't budging. From the Recon Trust Co website, who I believe handles Countrywide foreclosures, It appears out of 336 auctions in the San Bernardino and Riverside areas only 4 homes were sold at auction. The rest went back to the beneficiary, Countrywide I guess. You would think they would be the first to drop their prices. Instead they can sit on the houses, pay the seconds, pay the taxes, bow to city demands concerning hazards etc. I know in my city, if they have to go in and do cleanup or weed abatements, they will put a lein on the property. San Bernardino and Riverside counties are two of the most overinflated, overpriced, highest foreclosures rates in the country.

I tried putting an offer to Saxon REO dept, but after several phone calls to a voice machine I gave up.

I did put in one offer with another agency and after getting the bank to give him a letter of approval, and 3 weeks later he countered at almost the original selling price. Way overpriced, needed septic repair, carpet paint, mold abatement, asbestos abatement, a new kitchen, and more. Actually I just laughed and told my agent I would counter offer at 20k below my original offer. After all a month later things have just gotten worse in the market.

So for now, I gave up. I will just wait until these banks come down to earth or BK. 

 

Jennifer
2:54am • #18

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