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wolf in sheeps clothingHollywood, CA – Is The Government the new Sub Prime Lender?  Consider this.  A USDA loan program approves a buyer with $1300 savings for a mortgage with an $1800 payment.  It's a ZERO DOWN loan. 

 

The borrower had to get a gift of $10,000 from their parents to make the deal happen, and on top of that they received an $8000 tax credit back. 

 

With no skin in the game, what happens when the value of this home drops over the next two years?

 

In what world does this sound like a smart loan to give out?  This is your tax dollars... hard at work.

 

How long before these people become the next wave of foreclosures that we will have to deal with down the line?

 

I’m all for leverage.

 

I’m certainly for risk.

 

I just want people to take risks of their own.  I don’t want the government lowering standards and incentivizing people who have no business taking on that risk, that mortgage …. with my tax dollars footing the bill on the front side, and bailing out the collapse on the far side.  (I would have said back side but the double entendre was too thick)…

 

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57 Comments on The New Sub Prime Lender

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156,572 Points

Vince, you're right on every count. The question is; who will the USDA blame when the predictable occurs? Bush?

4:12pm • #1
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Jon... that's the greatest response ever!

4:21pm • #2
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OMG this is frightening. Hasn't the government learned the lesson yet? Thanks for the post.

4:36pm • #3
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This sound like the the other stupid stuff that banks do. I have one that refused an offer of face value of a loan. How stupid was that?

4:40pm • #4
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Vince, can you help me  get a loan for me like that. .I have about ten investment's I want to buy!

4:47pm • #5
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I have ALWAYS been against 100% financing. I don't care that the hard-working Americans can work everyday and just not be able to "save" money. If they can't save it, they're spending it. Pay check to pay check people with no reserves should NOT be buying houses!

4:54pm • #6
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Vince. The USDA farmer's Home loan used to be the loan of choice in my market. For years builders advertised "Buy a house with $100 down" Then stated income came along and we rarely saw the USDA. Now it's making a HUGE comeback. I completely agree that these loans are setting borrowers up for failure. Loaning 102% of the value in a still declining market makes ZERO sense. I think I'll give these buyers my short sale package at time of closing and ask them to hold on to it.

4:56pm • #7
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Great responses... thanks... doesn't it boil down to those that want to insure equal results versus those that want to insure equal opportunity?

I want opportunity (and if it's not equal I'll kick down some doors or create my own)

and I'll leave the results up to my efforts...

4:56pm • #8
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Hey Bryant... thanks for the idea... quadruple end a listing!!!!

4:58pm • #9
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I just recently learnt about the Federal Reserve, which contrary to popular belief, is NOT a Federal entity, but a private one http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&ai...d=10489 (and here confirmed by Greenspan) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3mEe8TH7w

I'm not surprised by anything anymore.  Whatever benefits those who can profit from it and who are in control of it all typically goes.  Our dollars are spent on those who spend their dollars making sure they get our dollars.

5:07pm • #10
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This is a horror!!! What do they require a 500 credit score?

5:20pm • #12
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It seem to me this is what got us in this mess to begin with.

5:56pm • #13
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Vincent...valid points in the post. I am wondering though if PITI all adds up to renting or less, the incentive to stay may hold. Add the write-off and the fact that you can claim you are a homeowner may give legs to this thing. The one thing that stood out for me is your comment on what happens when prices fall.....now there's a thought.

thank you Vincent

6:20pm • #14
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i didn't hear anything about DTI (debt to income) ratio or score. let me ask you a question, which is a greater risk

no skin?

or

high DTI?

if you don't know then i question your premise, if you do know you might have written the article differently

6:49pm • #15
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USDA by in large is a good problem and I really don't think they are a sub prime lender.

7:37pm • #16
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USDA Rural @ 100% - anything with a great big yard qualifies.

Aren't they constantly running out funds?   I can't imagine why.

7:54pm • #17
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Hi Jay and Michael... great voices of difference... here's a few stats that keep me turning...

The default rate on USDA loans is slightly better than the rate for FHA-backed loans. Some 11.35% of USDA loans were delinquent in 2008, while 1.4% went into foreclosure, according to the department’s statistics. Meanwhile, FHA loans had a 13.6% delinquency rate, while 2.3% went into foreclosure. That compares to a 4.3% delinquency rate and 1.6% foreclosure rate on prime loans, and a 20.0% delinquency rate and 12.9% foreclosure rate on subprime loans, according to the Mortgage Bankers Association.

Again, what happens when prices go down over the next few years?  I don't like my money being spent this way... you can open your own bank if you want to give out 100% financing.  I wouldn't mind if I were giving out these loans to the Getty or Rockefeller families... I know I'd get the money somehow.  Try getting that money out of a farmer whose crop has taken a hail storm on the chin.

7:59pm • #18
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Vince

the reason I brought this up is with my previous employer the default rate was influenced more by DTI than skin. that doesn't seem that unusual when you look at loans that routinely were approved based on ratios of 50% of the buyers gross, sometimes higher.

sometimes i think, they never had a chance. 

8:05pm • #19
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Hi Jay,

You're a lender and I know you know more about this than I ... the example I used was of a clearly unqualified borrower... (perhaps not clearly enough)

 

In the 1920's the banks wouldn't lend unless you had 50% down.

Then it morphed into the 20% programs...

And how did we get here?  Easy money lending practices.  No Income No Job Approved.  NINJA loans... pushed by ... everyone.  I'm okay with where we are.  I don't expect Barney Frank to be put in jail.  I just want to stop the madness.

Why are we giving anyone a loan who has no reserves, can't pay closing costs, and doesn't have at least 10% down?  I'd go 5% ... anything is better than 0%.  There is a give a man a fish mentality that is pervading the decision making process of the powers in Washington.  I'm arguing for something that will of course slow down the real estate industry that I'm a part of... that's okay with me if it sets up a prosperous future for my family... and yours.  We have to put the brakes on.  Tell me in what world is it okay to spend your way out of debt?  The USDA is wrong headed and it's expanded under the current administration. 

When something is free is it more wisely used or taken for granted?

100% financing is a great tool for the wealthy, great leverage for those who have something to back it up with... viz. their own money.  There's where resides a good DTI.

 

8:44pm • #20

Great post Vince - dead on!  And thanks for pointing out the white elephant that no one likes to recognize. In answer to your question...YES!

We currently operate in a very warped housing environment...that the government continues to believe can be propped up and stabilized by offering low down payment loans.  I am frightened by the "logic" that continues to pollute this economy. Low down payment loans, whether public or private, are simply not good for the creation of a stable housing market. Ever. 

We need to think "big picture" and long-term when it comes to real solutions for this housing market...or we'll be riding an economic rollerocoaster with more dips than any of our stomachs can handle.

 

8:52pm • #21
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The government does and allows alot of stupid things.  It amazes me!

9:39pm • #22
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In your comment (#20) you talk about decreasing required down payments.  I think that is a sign of our "got-to-have-it-now" society.  If people had to wait until they have saved 50% of the purchase price, home ownership would be almost non-existent.  People just don't want to wait.  However, your point is valid that although that line should move away from 50%, it certainly doesn't belong at 0% or worse yet -2%.  Good blog topic, thanks for posting.

10:27pm • #23
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I am in a rural area in PA and USDA loans are GREAT for our buyers. When USDA funds dry up, we lose buyers. But yes it is subsidized loans. But then again so is FHA!

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I don't mind subsidized loans across the board.  But I do not like loans that have people who have $1300 getting a loan for an $1800 payment. that seems pretty scary on a thin margin.  What cracks me up is people that are fully qualified but own a home, can buy another home while these high risk people can!

11:33pm • #25
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At least they check income and have a reasonable DTI ratio.  There is an upfront insurance fee on each loan to offset the defaults most similar to VA loans. I don't think the USDA loans are cosing us too much and certainly will never compare to the sub prime mess.   

The old sub prime lenders would make the same loan without income verification and no MI fees. Guess who is footing the bailout bill for those loans? 

10:17am • #27
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You really cant consider these to be subprime for numerous reasons. They are absolutely FULL doc loans, every lender I know participating in the program has minimum credit score requirements.   So the people CAN afford them when they move in, so as long as they still have a job they will be able to continue to pay the mortgage. While value is a piece of the puzzle it is not everything, people still need a place to live - These are also insured, and the USDA's move to the higher guarantee fee makes the program self supporting and the historical data shows these loans to perform better than other loans.

10:44am • #28

Vince,

The loan you are talking about is not available to everyone, it was designed to stimulate home ownership in rural areas for low income families. 

The DTI you describe exceeds the programs guidelines of 41% total and 29% PITI.

Here are the basic requirements.

http://usdaruralhomeloans.com/2009/12/usda-loan-guidelines-applicant-eligibility-requirements/

Lender that make loans that exceed these requirements are responsible financially if the loan defaults.

If a lender is dumb enough to make a loan under the parameters you stated then they derserve to have the loan for lunch.

The lender is first in line in the chain of responsibility if the loan goes into default.

The USDA is last inline.

The new guidelines for 2010 that congress recently passed increases the insurance premiums to better cover future defaults.

10:54am • #29
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Blah, Blah,Blah - When we stop operating off talking points and statistics and come to grips with a culture living large without the underpinnings to support it, maybe we'll get on the right track.  In order to do that, we'll need broader recognition and acceptance that, regardless of how you spin it,    an economy based primarily on consumption without corresponding income and savings to support it is inherently fragile.

11:04am • #30

Vince, great points, but we only have half the story. Loan underwriting is based on the total picture, which includes "skin in the game", credit score, DTI, ability to save etc.

I'm with Jay the biggest reason for default is less "skin" and more DTI. VA has the best default rates around and they're ZERO skin in the game. Until the recent economic downturn FHA was among the most profitable government institution and they did it with 3% down (since 1934).

If a family loses 50% of its income (or more), chances of them continuing to make their payments are pretty slim regardless of skin in the game. Looking at the HAMP figures, 60.2% of the applicants, cite loss of income as the reason for their hardship. Unemployment went from less than 5% to almost 15% in our market and I think that had more impact on defaults than did their "skin in the game".

Only time will tell if your example will be a performing or non-performing loan and there are a lot of external factors at work that may determine the outcome.

 

Greg Cook
11:13am • #31
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I'll bet investors hate 100% loans since they turn home renters into home buyers.  Less business for them.  I personally don't see a problem with USDA loans as long as full docs are collected and verified.

11:15am • #32
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I'm not convinced the 100% loan was the problem. The main problem is that you could get one without any proof of income or savings whatsoever. And with a 620 or less FICO. So you could only demonstrate a minimum level of competance with credit and no money. Then when the bottom fell out....no equity. Bad scenario.

Decent qualifying would have prevented a lot of this.

11:44am • #33

Vincent,

Think about this.  I personally put 50% down on my home and I am walking (short selling) my home.  The amount of down payment doesn't always mean much.  A USDA loan has much lower DTI requirements, so they are probably not maxed out on cash flow like some buyers with large dowm payments at 50-55% DTI.  Higher DTI buyers are more of a risk.  Plus, you seem to think just beecause a home drops in value they will walk.  FTHB's usually look at a home as a place to live....not an investment.  The USDA knows what they are doing.....they don't have a big deafult rate like FHA or conventional.

I would say it is very wrong for you to say USSDA is a subprime program.  Do you know what subprime is?  Subprime is a reference to the buyers sub-history of paying debts on time.  If Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac offer 100% on a conventional loan to a 850 FICO borrower do you call that sub prime?  Do you consider VA a subprime loan as well?  How about the city and county down payment assistance programs?  Subprime?

With your thinking we should get rid of FHA as well and all down payment assistance programs and make everyone come in with 20% down.

 

11:44am • #34
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Two points:

One, I think that it would be wise to learn a bit more about what you're planning on writing against before making blanket contrary statements on the thing.  I'd go into detail on the errors, but several people above me have already laid out most of them.  USDA is not a bad thing.

Two. I wonder, if you feel this strongly about the negative affects of a USDA loan, do you back that up?  By that, I mean if a buyer comes to you that qualifies for the program and wants to buy using it, are you going to sell them a house or are you going to inform them that your personal beliefs on the program prevent you from helping them with their purchase?

12:45pm • #35

Roger - that was well said......realtors who bash the govt for offering loan programs that actually make sense, would they turn away a $7,500 pay check because they think the USDA loan program is a bad thing?  If anyone has done this please stand up. 

So it sounds like some Realtors are playing the role of underwriter themselves.....determining who is worthy of a home loan.  Is that an ethics violation?  Could that be considered descrimination if a Realtor decides the buyer should not be buying a home based on their personal beliefs and refuses to work with them?  Ok, maybe not, but the question sure is interesting.

12:57pm • #36
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Who cares anyway?  Perhaps the Fed should give EVERYONE a foreclosed house.

 

I'm tired of the Socialist leanings of this Government and will be glad when all of this Experiment is over.

1:04pm • #37
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It's just the same thing over again... and no, they don't learn.

I just read the other day that you can get a Fannie Mae home for zero down... A way for Fannie to sell her homes ahead of "normal" listings.The same article explained that Farm Home loans are not just for rural properties any more. They're available in cities with a high population of people who can't afford to buy under other guidelines.

Jon (#1) is right too... when these loans go into foreclosure, it will surely be Bush's fault.

1:30pm • #38
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I wonder who gets these good deals.  I would not be surprised to find out if they were government employees, politicians or well connected people.  We have big scandals in some of our local towns about who has been getting the "first time buyer funds."

1:53pm • #39
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Wow... great comments...on both sides of this equation

I especially love the insinuation "You're a hypocrite."

Cheers.

Re-read the post and think a second time

Here's the question I'm proposing should never be asked...

"what flavor cheese do you think they'll be handing out this week?"

2:04pm • #40

I feel, as a mortgage banker, that "having skin in the game" has very little to nothing to do with defaults and foreclosures. Case-in-point is VA loans which are 100% financing and FICO scores allowed down to 580 (previously FICO wasn't even looked at). VA's default and foreclosure rates are less than half of FHA (which requires 3.5% down) and Conforming Conventional loans (which require a minimum 5% down).  Why is there a difference? Here's my opinion:

FHA and Conventional loans qualify a borrower based in debt-to-income ratios, usually a max of 45% for all debt including the proposed mortgage payment, but with "compensating factors" up to 55% DTI. And this is based on the borrowers GROSS INCOME.  I had a borrower recently who qualified for an loan based on this, but their net income after income taxes, health insurance premiums and other withholdings was 54% of their gross income.

The problem is that conventional thinking in qualifying someone for a loan doesn't leave any leeway for "life events" such as one person in the household becoming unemployed or temporarily not working do to medical or other reasons. It also doesn't take into account needs like utilities, groceries, auto insurance and auto maintenance.

VA initially looks at DTI, but ultimately qualifies the borrower on residual income after the mortgage and all consumer debt and utilities (yes, VA estimates utility bills into the equation) are paid.  VA's idea of how much residual income is needed goes-up with family size. Because of this VA borrowers qualify for less home, but they are in a better financial position from the start.

Oh, and USDA has almost as low a default rate as VA.

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Vonce- Just like everything else. When it comes to the government they have different rules than everyone else. Fannie Freddie started the crash and FHA and USDA will keep it going. Thank you Barney Frank and fellow reps and senators that buy into the "homeownership is a right" crap. Just like some people are employees and some employers, there are those that are not cut out to own a home. They don't have the discipline (shown by no savings when the get the home loan) to save money for a rainy day to even pay for the upkeep much less major items that will need taking care of during home ownership.

And- In regards to Corey who states VA loans are safe. Of course they are! #1 The military is not going to lay off their personnel AND if payments are not made.. guess who can garnish wages to make the loan payments?? and then of course as Corey also stated, VA's underwriting guidelines are more in line with reality because they have to keep their military safe from undue stress of being financially strapped and (possibly) target for looking for money elsewhere because of financial trouble.  Now why we don't have guidelines across the board like VA does... who knows???  That would make too much sense..

4:31pm • #42
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So true, the government gets involved and it all over!!

5:00pm • #43

I think what is correct is that we are getting right back into the same pattern. What is that Buyers motive to keep making house payments when prices have dropped, it needs repairs and the wife left?  How many people walked away from morgages because their loan was so far above actual value, not because they couldn't pay?  I agree that we all sell houses and just hope the buyers can get qualified.  Most of us didn't agree with the lending guidelines before and probably won't again.  This post is about that forget what the letters are in front of the loan. 

7:32pm • #44
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Whenever the government gets involved things always get messed up. Look at the HVCC (the Home Valuation Code of Conduct) where everyone is removed from speaking to an appraiser doing an appraisal.

7:37pm • #45
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Some of the commenters are confused about VA loans.  First of all, military wages can't be garnished.  Secondly, many of the VA loans are to Veterans who are no longer in military service nor retired - they served their country and moved on to another career; so they don't have the job security you speak of any more than anyone else.  It may, however, have something to do with the character of military members being more likely to pay their debts and take their obligations seriously.

7:39pm • #46

Drick, you are right. As far as ex-military people being more responsible about paying their debts, that's a debatable point, though. What I do know though is that VA's guidelines are very commonsense, knowing that the borrower will still need money after the mortgage, cars and credit cards are paid to buy food, auto insurance, car insurance, utilities, school fees for the kids, clothes, etc. FHA, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac don't take this account then they wonder why their default rate is so high and blame it on the loan officer and the underwriter rather than their own lax approval guidelines.

Of course, it's always easier to "fix" someone else than admit you might be wrong and fix yourself. That is why we are seeing so many "lender overlays" which are more conservative than Fannie, Freddie, FHA, VA or USDA guidelines. Lenders are getting tired of being blamed for, and stuck with, the bad loans that were underwritten to the letter to Fannie, Freddie, etc. guidelines. For instance, FHA allows FICO scores down to 580, however you'll be hard-pressed to find a lender willing to underwrite and fund a loan for a borrower with less than a 620 FICO score.

USDA, although underwritten very closely to FHA guidelines, sticks religiously to the 41% DTI guideline. There are no compensating factors like a better FICO score or large savings account to justify an approval up to 55% DTI. Not allowing higher DTI ratios may be factor in USDA's lower default rate, also.

8:14pm • #47
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I disagree one several counts!  VA has offered 100% and upside down loans and yet they have had the lowest default rates in the nation.  Every car loan offered is based on a commodity that is guaranteed to loose value and yet they are still effective.

I just closed VA loan in Meridian, Idaho last month in which the buyer put down $2,000 in earnest money and he got a 100% loan, financed in his VA funding fee so he was over 100% LTV and got his entire $2,000 back at closing.  I had several lenders turn him down based on debt to income ratios since their primary income was retirement and social security.  However, his income was tax free so it was "comped up" and his payment is less than his previous rental payment was and he had a two year perfect history paying the higher amount.

I would be willing to bet my entire commission on fact that even though he knew he was upside down on day one, that he will not be a mortgage fatality!

11:15pm • #48
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At least they will turn someone for a USDA loan if the MAKE TOO MUCH MONEY! Yes that is a reason to turn someone down. They will not give a USDA loan to someone who can afford it with no problem.

Go figure.

11:17pm • #49

Alan, the stated mission of USDA Rural Development is: "Single Family Housing Programs provide homeownership opportunities to low- and moderate-income rural Americans through several loan, grant, and loan guarantee programs."

It has never been intended to be used by rich people who can afford to put down 5% but don't want to. That is the target market for Conventional loans.

11:33pm • #50
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I would favor the USDA program loans against the No Doc, Stated income loans,  definitely long before calling USDA a Sub Prime.  There are alotof buyers in this category that need to refurbish the homes. This price point doesn't carry with it a whole lot of homes of premium choices, most are fixers that need 6% or better improvements. I do not know of many home buyers that have 20% to put down and then another 6% to improve the home to a comfortable refurbishment.

Before the USDA buyers could not buy anything in their qualified price points, TODAY there are homes are at that level.

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Well in this day and age it is hard to predict anything or how anyone will react.  I too feel we still need loan programs to assist those and not limited to first time homebuyers who are dedicated to making the payments as promised.  I don't believe anyone wakes up in the morning saying that they want to go through the struggles of financial difficulty and emotional turmoil that a short sale or foreclosure or bankruptcy evoke.

We all started with our first mortgage, the majority of us wondered how we would ever make the payment, I stayed awake myself for three days after signing my first purchase and sales agreement as a buyer, I took it very seriously and I believe the majority of buyers out there realize the great opportunity for themselves as well as stability for their family living in a home of their own.

I do hope loan programs continue to give opportunity to potential good candidates for mortgages.

9:28pm • #52
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I had to be the 46th person to give an opinion on this thread

You can read it at A Directed Response to: USDA the New Subprime Lender

 

10:49am • #53
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Great post, anmother generatin of future forclosures, keep those buyers and addresses in your marketing file, they'll need you in about a year!!!! 

5:41pm • #54
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I am not an agent; I am a first-time homeowner with FHA mortgage. I saved as much as I could to get down payment, closing costs, moving fees, insurance, repairs, utilities, etc. When you are working, paying high market rent and not receiving any tax deduction benefits, it is HARD to save 20% down payment for a home; especially when home prices were skyrocketing and US salaries are stagnant or plummeting!


Late last year I took advantage of the depreciated market and the $8,000 tax credit to buy my home--- and yes, I needed an FHA, as I did not have 20% down for conventional loan.   You could say that I do not have "skin" in the game and Vince (along with many of the responders) may consider me a "risk".  I would counter with my $1,300 monthly mortgage is a lot cheaper than my $1,500 a month rent AND I am getting tax benefits of a homeowner. I have to live somewhere, why not a home of my own instead of making someone else rich(er)????


To lump hardworking Americans who live paycheck to paycheck as "irresponsible" for lack of savings is an insult. Over the past several years, my salary has been downgraded and my cost of living has gone up; yet I am lucky because most of my peers have lost their jobs and have no income. The foreclosure mess was a combination of many forces with the brunt of the blame to job loss and homeowners losing their incomes.


Yes Vince, you are correct---there will be a new wave of foreclosures in near future, there will also be a new wave of unemployed Americans. Forrester Research Inc. predicts U.S. employers will move 3.4 million white-collar jobs and $136 billion in wages overseas by 2015.
In a nutshell, you should be kinder to us working folks (some may have provided you with nice commissions) and stop drinking the tea!

latinafunny
11:28am • #55

Latina, well said

FHA has provided a viable financing alternative for first time home buyers since 1934 with very low default rates and low down payments.

The "skin in the game" arguement is very superficial and doesn't take into account all the other aspects of qualifying for a home loan.

Bravo!

ARers this is the voice of our clients, are we listening?

Greg Cook
11:52am • #56

Thanks for the input, latinafunny. I agree with you and your position. From where I stand, and as I've stated above, 100% financing to people buying a primary residence wasn't the problem. 100% finacing to "investors" was not wise by any means. Whether there was skin in the game or not has nothing to do with a home owner losing their job and not being able to make their house payment. More skin in the game would only benefit the bank's position in the foreclosure, it has nothing to do with how responsible a home buyer is or whether they want to be living in a homeless shelter five years after buying a home. If you lose your job and can't make your payments you've lost your job and your home, it doesn't matter if you put down nothing or 50%.

As far as 100% goes: The only people stating that is HUD, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and that's all based on their own studies that homes with 100% financing default more often. There has been no independent studies to back that up. It's simply HUD and the GSE's shifting the blame to someone else. But the government, the media and the American public take their word at face value and blame each other rather than shifting blame to where blame is due: Wall Street.

Why Wall Street? Because it is short-term profit driven. Investors only care about what the companies they have invested in are doing for them today. Damn the future. To meet investor expectations companies cut jobs to increase the bottom line profits, because overall that's the only area of business they have any control over. They can't control the economy or the consumer. They can't control the cost of raw materials used in manufacturing. So all they can do is slash jobs or send them overseas where they can get it done cheaper. And for all this our government incentivizes them to do so with tax breaks, etc.

Then they have brainwashed the general public into believing it's their neighbor's fault we're in this mess and shirking themselves of any responsibility for exactly what Wall Street and our Government did to create the bubble and the current recession.

Until we band together as citizens and say "no more", we're going to continue to see more of the same. Unfortunately I don't have too much faith in that because most people are lazy and want their politician to fix it for them rather than do something themselves.

12:02pm • #57
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I totally think people should have something invested in the home.  Otherwise, they're just renters spending our money.

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