Is there a difference in selling investment property and single family houses?

Recently I posted a blog about the frustrations I have with agents who list investment property without the knowledge of the market they should have. Apparently that raised the ire of a few who felt it was condescending. Perhaps it was, thus the source of my frustration. All agents are not created equal, having a real estate license does not make you knowledgeable in all aspects of real estate.

Whether representing the buyer or the seller it is incumbent on the agent to have a knowledge of the market, the right tools for marketing and the ability to answer some basic questions that will be asked. If the property is tenanted it is the agents responsibility to know enough about landlord tenant law not to violate the tenants rights.

One agent even stated that selling a duplex is no different than selling a house. I suppose that may be somewhat true if the buyer plans to live there. However, it is in the best interest of your client that you have some idea what you are representing.  How can you use income approach to valuation if you do not know what a CAP Rate is? Basing the price on comps alone is foolhardy at best with investment property.

So in the best interest of the active rain community I decided perhaps I should post a blog that would be of assistance to those who are interested in working in the multifamily or other investment property field.

The first thing you must do is know the terms. CAP Rate, IRR, MIRR, Cash-on-Cash Return, GRM NOI, The terms are infinite and depending on the investors education and background they may be differing or interchangeable. Your clients will want to feel that you have some knowledge of the investment side of the real estate market, if you can't answer financial questions you will be caught with your pants down. If the property was a tax credit property IE: LIHTC Section 42 you better know what your doing or your client may get a visit from the IRS!

Secondly you must know where and how to market investment property. While local sales are quite slow in the single family market, investors are quite actively seeking property in many areas of the country. The trend in the Midwest seems to be mostly coastal investors. They do not have access to the MLS so they rely on sites like http://www.loopnet.com/ for information. While some MLS listings are posted on http://www.realtor.com/ the information and layout is not intended to market investment property. Burying a statue of St. Joseph won't cut it!

Most importantly you must know the rental market, just because the seller claims the property is rented for $850 a month doesn't mean that the rental market will continue to provide that kind of rent if the property should become vacant. Do some research, http://www.rentclicks.com/, http://www.rentometer.com  and http://www.craigslist.org/about/cities.html  are a some great sites to search for rental comps. Yes I said rental comps, It is the agents responsibility to know what the actual rental market will bring if you are representing the buyer. Another great way to do this is to partner with a local property manager and have them evaluate the rental potential of specific properties. If you are marketing the property for sale and the rents should be higher you can use that as a marketing tool to justify the price.

A common ploy in multi-family is to fill the property up prior to sale with "warm bodies"! If your client buys a property with tenants that don't pay rent, and have not been paying rent you may be liable. Your due diligence should dictate that you researched the income and expense enough that you felt comfortable with the sellers numbers.

Pro-Forma: A pro-forma is a tool used to market investment property. Most pro-forma will either be actual or estimated. Estimated is basically worthless, You can estimate that a vacant property will rent for $1,500 but if the market won't bring that then your just guessing. Actual Pro-forma should include income and expense for a period of history. The longer that history the more accurate the projections. The more information the better. The only estimated pro-forma that has any bearing is one that uses comparable market analysis of other rentals.

Unit descriptions, unit mix information, insurance cost, maintenance cost, vacancy projections, management costs, capital improvements, advertising cost, utilities cost, etc. should all be included in the pro-forma to gauge an accurate prediction of potential NOI to come.

Maintenance. Pay special attention to these numbers, often the maintenance numbers will be skewed by the fact that the seller did some or all of their own maintenance. If the buyer does not plan to or have the aptitude for doing maintenance and repairs, your buyers must consider what the actual cost would be if they had to hire that service. Frequently some maintenance costs are diverted and capitalized. This lowers the pro-formas actual numbers and indicates that major improvements may have been done. Capital Improvements should be taken into consideration along with the maintenance. Make sure the seller outlines what went into capital improvements before you assume it was a new roof. Depending on their accounting methods it may have been some general maintenance expenses.

Do what you do and do it well, if you plan to expand your opportunities in this field then get educated in the basics.  I've seen far to many investors come to me after making a horrible mistake they were led into by a eager agent.

 

6 Comments on Is there a difference in selling investment property and single family houses?

Thanks for the great information.  I have a rather large investor business and you are correct...many Realtors do not understand this portion of the business....

Now maybe you could educate the late night, TV watchin, wanabe investor....naaahhhh!!

Steve

08/25/2007 08:28 PM by Steve Glisan, Colorado Springs Real Estate (Glisan Real Estate and Investments)


I can always tell when there has been an investment seminar in town, I get hundreds of calls looking for no money down distressed property with 20% built in equity. Gotta love it! Who pays for this stuff?

Steve, maybe we should be writing books!

Kansas City Investment Property

08/25/2007 08:40 PM by Turn-Key Properties LLC


Ben-

Loved your post!  I just wish more agents would READ it and take the time to understand it.  Some will, some won't.  In the past few years here in central Florida, some builders encouraged a lot of wanna-be "investors" to buy properties here, saying they would be "investment" properties and would easily "cash flow."  Well, their promises worked in that the newbie investors bought them but now their adjustable rate or payment option loans have adjusted and the new owners are not just hurting--they are in huge trouble.  I actually talked with an owner who said that, after the renter was pays X dollars, paying the other $300 toward her mortgage is a good return.  WHAT?  Good return?  Good return on what?  She's paying $300 out of pocket per month, plus taxes, plus insurance b/c, of course, those were not escrowed into the mortgage.  Add to that the fact that the property is not appreciating from what she bought it for (in fact, properties are worth less than what she paid over a year ago) and you have someone who really can't give the property away. 

And it doesn't end there.  The owner never figured a vacancy rate, thinking that picking up a new renter would be a drop in the bucket once the first year was over.  But with so many rental properties and properties for sale, the owner has found out differently.  And the owner is an absentee owner that doesn't live in the state, too, so everything takes twice as long to fix, clean, etc. 

And, Ben, I hear you about the calls on the weekend about the fixer-uppers that people want to buy.  I constantly hear from would-be flippers:  "I want you to find me 5 properties that the Seller will hold a 2nd mortgage at 0% interest with a balloon payment in 5 years" or, even better, they'd be even happier if the Seller would finance the whole thing.  The call or e-mail will go on to say they want me to write up offers on all 5 properties and submit them, then whichever is accepted, they'll buy THAT one.  Well, I'm sorry for these people for a variety of reasons but I'll pick the most blatant no-no first.  In Florida, if you submit 5 offers on 5 different properties and they are all accepted and signed off on, guess what?  You are under contract on all 5 properties, so are obligated for all five.  (Of course, you may not get the financing on all 5, especially if you don't even own A property, but that's beside the point.)  Yes, I may be able to find someone to hold a note for a second mortgage and I'm happy to say I'm working on a deal with a Buyer right now that's in escrow for Seller financing for a first mortgage at 90%, so I know that's possible, too. 

My personal favorite:  When a "Buyer" says "I'd like to find a rent-to-own property."  What this means is that the Buyer's credit is probably in the double-digits and they couldn't afford to pay attention.  It also means that they probably wouldn't be able to come up with the typical 10% down payment due at closing b/c their credit didn't get that bad on accident and they have no money. 

I do my best to try to weed out the first-time prospective flipper from a true investor that has successfully improved investment properties under their belt.  I also try to educate the first to the best of my ability (and try to seriously talk them out of it if it's in their best interest to do so) and I learn from the latter as much as possible b/c there are a lot of decent, ethical investors out there who do a great job with their properties and actually improve properties and whole neighborhoods. 

08/25/2007 09:42 PM by Lisa Spalding (Watson Realty Corp.)


I'm the agent who said that a duplex was not a lot different from a single family home. Notice I DID NOT say, as I was quoted above by the OP, that there was NO difference.

OF COURSE the agent needs to be knowledgeable. That goes w/o saying. We work with people who are buying for themselves, we also work with investors who are buying for rentals. Once in awhile we have people come to us to rent their property who bought through an agent who didn't have a clue about rentals. By the time we educate the new owners they are often not "happy campers".

What I found condescending were the references to soccer moms and pretty kitchens, as well as the general tone. A good residential agent, even if they don't have the rental knowledge, will help the buyer make an informed decision based on a lot more than a "pretty kitchen". An ignorant agent is an ignorant agent, whether they are commercial-trained or not.

 

08/27/2007 04:29 PM by Leslie Prest, Owner, Assoc. Broker, Prest Realty


OK Ben,

I just stumbled across this post.  Kuddos.  A much better and FAR more professional post than the previos one.

Freinds?

LOL

David Nichols

09/06/2007 07:01 PM by The Nichols/Ersery Home Team, Kansas City Area Realtors (RE/MAX Heartland, REALTORS)


I believe there is a difference.  I like to sell single family homes to investors as rentals.  I strongly believe in buying for cashflow and holding for appreciations.  How many properties can you afford to hold on to with putting with the payment $300 a month.  Maybe one?  Now what if that home was a positive $100 per month?  How many could you hold on to then?  5? 10?  My goal is to own 30 single family rental homes within the next 5 years.  I own 7 single family homes with having bought 4 in the last 6 months.  Fun Fun!!!

09/06/2007 10:13 PM by Real Estate in Grand Rapids Ethan Dozeman (Platinum Realty Group)


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