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Real Estate Agent with Aubrey and Associates Realty

We (our office) just had an interesting meeting with Utahrealestate.com.  They are the Wasatch Front (Salt Lake, Ogden and Provo) Multiple Listing Service Provider.  They are trying to become our Multiple Listing Service Provider.  They currently are the Multiple Listing provider for the Northern part of Utah.  Our current contract with our provider is up in the next few months, so they are trying to have us join them.

This would create close to a statewide Multiple Listing Service.  I am not sure how I feel about that.  I do think that is what the future will hold.  With the internet, I do see information like Multiple Listing Services being consolidated into one system for an entire state if not the entire Country.  I know that there is talk of a Nationwide Multiple Listing Service.  I will be honest, in my opinion, the Nationwide MLS would be too cumbersome to be effective.  I do believe that "information overload" is possible.

I wish to discuss the statewide idea, I currently am for the option.  Utahrealestate.com has a stand alone public search site that is currently achieving 11 million hits per month.  That is great exposure for my listings and I think that would be beneficial.  There is the concern that as a small board, agents from other areas will stop referring clients to us, and because they have MLS access attempt to serve their clients from 250 miles away.  I can honestly see this happening.  I think that it is a REALLY stupid idea!  But I can still see it happening.

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This is something that as a small town board, I really believe, we can either get in front of the wave, or be crushed by it.  By being unique, and not joining an entity like this, we would lose marketing position, nothing would stop other out of area agencies from joining our board, then they would be able to tell their clients that they are marketing to the entire state, not just to this small area of agents.

I know that there is a lot of concern about this, some of it is justified, we have had several brokerages join our board when times were really good and skim off a nice percentage of listings for awhile.  They have since left our board for the most part.  There are still some that are on our board, but don't do a lot of business here.  I really believe by not working, living in and knowing the area you are really doing your client MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

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We are technically licensed by the State, and as such can sell anywhere in the State.  Is it a good idea?  I don't think so.  I don't know which areas are the most desirable, which schools are the best, where the shopping is the most convenient in areas outside of Iron County.  I don't even know that in Saint George, and it is only 50 miles away.  I don't sell in these areas, nor do I market in them for those reason, but mainly I don't do it because I am not helping my client in the best way possible. 

I trully believe ALL real estate is local!  For me to do my fudiciary best for my client, I need to make sure that an expert in the area is taking care of them, here, that is Darcy and myself, outside of Iron County, I refer them to a good, local expert.  Clients need to understand that it is extremely important to hire a local expert to assist them in the sale and purchase of their home.

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We are not selling cars, where it doesn't really matter where you buy, you're going to take it home anyway.  You can buy a car based solely on price and features.  Houses are permantly afixed (usually), so it does matter who you talk to!  Choose a local expert! 

That being said, I do believe that even if I don't feel great about it, the exposure that a Statewide system like Utahrealestate.com is a good idea, and one that I fully embrace, why?  Because my job as a listing agent it to expose that listing to the most buyers possible!  A system that is currently generating 11 million hits per month, hits that I am currently not getting on my listing, is a great tool to help me be able to do what my clients have hired me to do, sell that listing. 

What do you think?

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Comments(18)

c c
Los Angeles, CA

I also believe in local experts but see the continuation of the merging of MLS boards here in Southern California in particular.  Prior to CARETS, we had our own regional boards, and if you wanted to work in that area, you had to be a part of that board or sign the broker coop agreement.  Now, we have access here in LA to listings in Orange County and even San Diego.  I don't know about anyone else, but if I got a listing in San Diego, I'd refer it out in a heartbeat.  It makes more sense all around.

Sep 10, 2010 09:24 AM
Kim Boekholder Utah Real Estate/ PECO
Results Real Estate 801.580.5624 - Draper, UT
Broker Results Real Estate/Leasing Specialist PECO

Great comments and I understand your concern.  As an agent up here along the wasatch front, I know there will be agents who will "over promise" and try to list with clients down south.  Not a good idea at all.  It will happen, but you'll recoup them when they expire if they don't lose their home in the process that is.  The WFR will probably will end up taking over the state, I'm not sure I like the monopoly.  Interested to see how it ends up, you'll have to let us know.   Good luck

Sep 10, 2010 09:25 AM
Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Tony--unfortunately big is the wave of the future, but not always the best way. 

My area Erie, PA is far enough from Pittsburgh, Harrisburg and Philadelphia that the topic has not come up yet.  Now those bigger areas have metro-MLS (my term).  If I lived near Pittsburgh I would probably be in favor.  (Erie & Pittsburgh are about 110 miles apart.)

My mother's home is 65 miles away, but when the time comes I will refer her to an agent who knows the local market.

Love your photos.

Sep 10, 2010 09:26 AM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

Tony...I am a proponent for state wide MLS's for many of the reasons you mention. 

Having said that...would I drive 100 miles to show properties...if I was showing houses, probably not for just the reason you mentioned..."as such can sell anywhere in the State.  Is it a good idea?  I don't think so.  I don't know which areas are the most desirable, which schools are the best, where the shopping is the most convenient in areas outside of Iron County"...or whatever county.

However, I already will go anywhere to sell farms in Nebraska...but farms are totally different than houses...or commercial property.

There are so many MLS Boards in Nebraska that it is ridiculous and most ag and commercial does not get tlisted with an MLS broker...read Realtor...and that means a lot of properties & buyers miss out on exposure...and all exposure is good.

Sep 10, 2010 09:29 AM
Tony & Darcy Cannon
Aubrey and Associates Realty - Layton, UT
The C Team

Caroline, It really does make sense to have one board for Realtors to work from.  But like you, I would refer out an area that I don't know in a heartbeat.  Thanks for the comments!

Kim, Thanks for commenting, it is good to get feedback from an agent in Salt Lake County!  I know that a lot of fears expressed, are the fear of change.  I do believe that you're right, in the long run agents will stop trying to list all over the State.  I do think that there will be those that like to golf in Saint George and try to make a golfing trip into a business trip by showing properties to a buyer or taking a listing while down there.  You're right it is the client that suffers, especially if they're in danger of foreclosure. Thanks for the input!

Mary, I fear that you're right, and like I said, I may not like it and I don't have to do so, but I do have to do what is best for my client and if that is embracing the "bigger = better" wave, I will do it.  I really hope that you're able to stay with a local MLS! 

Mike, that would really be a pain!  That is one concern that I have going with a statewide system, is that we wouldn't have the farm or acreage listing capability.  It must really be tough getting a farm sold without having exposure of a MLS!

Sep 10, 2010 10:12 AM
Joshua Zargari
MJ Decorators Workshop LI staging and home decorating - Lynbrook, NY
MJ Decorators Workshop

Very interesting...

Sep 12, 2010 03:22 AM
Steve Baklaich
RE/MAX Results St Cloud Mn real estate - Saint Cloud, MN
Treating Buyers & Sellers to Full Service Always.

Hi Tony & Darcy, I just have one short thought to add to your well thought out points, how good can an agent be if they have the time to drive 250 miles out of their area to show a house? Working in your area and referring out to trusted agents who are local experts in their area is a much better way to do business. Just sayin'

Sep 12, 2010 04:44 AM
Karen Kruschka
RE/MAX Executives - Woodbridge, VA
- "My Experience Isn't Expensive - It's PRICELESS"

Tony and Darcy  We are members of a 35,000 Agent MLS covering Partsof PA, MD, VA and WV.  Agents do not normally travel outside their normal territory.  The value of our system is that our size makes it feasible to include more sophisticated programs

Sep 12, 2010 06:33 AM
Randy DeLaMare
Realtypath LLC - Salt Lake City, UT
Helping friends Realize their Real Estate Dreams

Tony & Darcy,

I have looked at both systems. I can tell you that WFRMLS is much less expensive and a much nicer system than the Washington County system. Every agent in the state can sell anywhere in the state as you suggested. You might be surprised how many Washington County listings are on WFRMLS. You mentioned the fact that agents are licensed to sell anywhere in the state. All that being said I recently took a listing in St. George. I tried to refer it out, the client my Brother in law and his siblings selling the family estate. They had been a FSBO for several months. My brother in law lives in Utah County with a couple of siblings in St. George. They finally decided to list with a Realtor® but only wanted to go with me. I listed it for 6 weeks. I had quite a few calls on it. Couldn't really service the listing. At the end of the six weeks I was able to refer it to a St. George agent who knew truly where it needed to be priced to sell. It is under contract now after only a few weeks. There really is no reason for an agent to take a listing that far away. I think you  will find that the advantages of the larger MLS will far out weigh the few crazies from up north that dable in your area. By the way I just looked at Washington, and Iron Counties on WFRMLS and there are currently 649 listings active on that system. 

Sep 12, 2010 09:29 AM
Dale Baker
Baker Energy Audits and Commercial Properties Inspections - Claremont, NH
New Hampshire Relocation Real Estate Information

Howdy and morging to you Tony and Darcy

Tony and Darcy, although I don't have the background that a Real Estate Agent has working with MLS sites. I work in both New Hampshire and Vermont, so I do use the New Hampsphire and Vermont State MLS sites to get info that clients some times are not able to give me, when we have talk on the phone.

One thing about New Hampshire and Vermont, they are not as big of States as what UT is. 99.9% of the Agents here do not and will not travel out of their normal local area of working. There are Agents here that won't even travel 36 miles away from their usual area of working with a cilent. So what the buyers here do, is find an Agent in the area they want to buy in. The sellers here do the same thing.

Have a good one
Dale in New Hampshire   

Sep 12, 2010 06:53 PM
Erika Rogers
Red Rock Real Estate ~ Southern Utah's Largest Independent Brokerage - Saint George, UT
St George Utah Real Estate & Relocation Specialist

Good morning to both of you.  Great post and I agree with you completely.  Although we are licensed for the whole state, there's no possible way we could be experts for the entire state.  Even with a statewide mls service, I would continue to refer my clients to agents that are familiar with the area that they work and live in.

Sep 13, 2010 04:38 AM
Wanda Kubat-Nerdin - Wanda Can!
Red Rock Real Estate (435) 632-9374 - St. George, UT
St. George Utah Area Residential Sales Agent

Tony, Agents are already coming down with their clients from SLC and buying properties without referring to local agents. Personally, I think that all real estate is local and I do business in the areas that I am familiar and will refer business in outside areas to other agents in their local selling areas. I wouldn't want to take on more than I am able to handle...there's enough to go around and greed is definitely not part of my business model.

Sep 13, 2010 06:32 AM
Debi Boucher
Real Estate Showcase Photography - Woodland Park, CO
"Realtor Showcase" - Real Estate Photography/Virtual Tours

I hadn't heard about this. Not quite sure a state wide MLS makes much sense to me, because I agree with Wanda - RE is LOCAL.

Sep 13, 2010 04:30 PM
Debi Boucher
Real Estate Showcase Photography - Woodland Park, CO
"Realtor Showcase" - Real Estate Photography/Virtual Tours

I hadn't heard about this. Not quite sure a state wide MLS makes much sense to me, because I agree with Wanda - RE is LOCAL.

Sep 13, 2010 04:31 PM
Tony & Darcy Cannon
Aubrey and Associates Realty - Layton, UT
The C Team

Joshua, Thank you for stopping by and commenting.

Steve, excellent point!  Thanks for sharing it!

Randy, We have done the same thing in St. George, we have a dear friend who had a rental property in St. George, she didn't trust another agent (which is a long story), we co listed it with a local agent.  That agent did the pricing for us.  In the end it sold, and it is something that I wouldn't necessarily recommend, but I can understand why there are exceptions to the rule!

Mary, I am not disagreeing that many of the waves of the future really aren't the best for everything.  I like the way that things are.

Dale, I believe that it is smart to work in the area that you're familiar with.

Erika, That is how I feel about it, I would

Wanda, I know that it is already happening.  That doesn't mean that it is the best practice, nor is it best for your clients.

Debi, it is true, and that is why I stress regardless of the situation with the MLS, you should us a competent, professional, local agent!

Sep 15, 2010 02:37 AM
Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Rhinebeck, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection

I am with #8 a larger system can offer better tools and I doubt anyone would travel 250 miles instead of referring out.  I am looking forward to consolidation, the present operation is too costly too many MLS's in a small area.

Sep 15, 2010 04:21 PM
Suzanne Strickler
Realty Mark Associates - Havertown, PA
School is never out for the Successful.

You are the first ones to bring this situation to light. Maybe it is the wave of the future for certain areas of the country that have alot of miles between developments. thanks for sharing the news.

Sep 16, 2010 10:13 AM
Tony & Darcy Cannon
Aubrey and Associates Realty - Layton, UT
The C Team

Jennifer, I really do think that it is the wave of the future, and one of the agents from our office that was at the meeting made the comment that this is the same argument that was made when the internet started becoming mainstream for real estate.  It hasn't killed any of us yet, so why fight it.  I am glad that we are only dealing with 1 smaller MLS currently, it wouls really get costly with more than !!

Suzanne, I may be wrong about it being the wave, but in our market at least, it just feels like it is what the future holds, that is why I really believe that it is important to embrace it, and get out in front of it.  All real estate is local, so once the initial excitement is over, it will be business as usual.

Sep 16, 2010 10:32 AM