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Ahhhh the Lock Box Issue Has Been Solved. Or Has It? If You Can't Get in Join the Association of Realtors.

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Real Estate Agent with Labrum Real Estate

electronic lockbox  On June 1,2010 the Multiple Listing Service (MLS) I belong to, IMRMLS has required all listings to have an electronic Supra lockbox to be present if there is a lockbox. Their reason is unknown to me but I suspect it is due to the complaints from agents who cannot get listing agents to return their calls for combo codes for the REO (Real Estate Owned) properties that typically have combination lockboxes on them. As a listing agent for my fair share of REOs I personally have always called back, if I didn't catch the call, to provide the combo as that is just one of the reasons I was hired by the institutional seller. How can it get sold if agents can't get in?

 Fair access to all agents and I have no problem with that at all. A new problem has arisen since those who whined about access, or the lack of, as now they are calling for the combo codes for the lockboxes I install for my vendors, repair crews, painting contractors,flooring contractors and cleaning crews to gain access. I always ask the agent why they don't use their Supra key to open the electronic box and whoa do they get upset when they have to say they don't belong to any Association of Realtors nor the MLS that covers my area.

  The IMRMLS covers virtually all of Southern California including Murrieta, Temecula and the surrounding cities. When I won't provide the combo I have been called everything you can imagine but my reasoning is if you are going to be in the real estate business one needs the tools such as board membership,MLS membership and a Supra key to gain access. The combo box is for my vendors and with a Supra lockbox I can see who has entered the property,when they entered, so if the doors are left unlocked or the lights left on I know who was there. Oh and turning on the two air conditioning systems, upstairs and down, is OK on hot days but turn them off. I pay the bills and get reimbursed by the seller but that usually takes a month at least and neither they nor I want to see a spike in the electric bill.

  Needless to say but by not giving out the combo codes I am protecting my clients assets. Lazy agents can no longer give the codes to their clients to gain access without the agent. Since this rule was placed into effect I stil have had no problem getting these REO properties sold as the professional agents have the tools necessary to conduct their business. Imagine taking your vehicle to your mechanic for repairs and he had no tools to fix it. Oooops.

 If you are searching for a home to buy be sure to hire an agent who is more than a door opener. Agents need the tools of the trade as they cannot always open the door so you will not see the homes that may just be perfect for you. Use a professional who belongs to the local Association of Realtors and has access to all the homes on the market for the area of your choice.

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Comments (17)

Richard Weisser
Richard Weisser Realty - Newnan, GA
Richard Weisser Retired Real Estate Professional

Cameron...

How right you are. Those combo boxes have a specific purpose, and once the number is out there, it's out there forever.

Sep 11, 2010 11:30 AM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Richard, So true so true. Many so called agents are now whining out of the other side of their face. Get real and get professional or get out IMHO.

Sep 11, 2010 11:36 AM
Gray Winn
RE/MAX Legacy - Madison, AL
New Home Specialist in Madison AL and Athens AL

I agree.   I also think even new construction that is not complete but is locked and listed should have a box.

Sep 11, 2010 11:39 AM
Melanie Dawn Molina Wood
Coldwell Banker Residential Real Estate - Miami, FL

You said you didn't know why your MLS instituted the E-lockbox policy, but I suspect you have the correct answer in your second paragraph:

I always ask the agent why they don't use their Supra key to open the electronic box and whoa do they get upset when they have to say they don't belong to any Association of Realtors nor the MLS that covers my area.

Much like your California market, Miami-Dade has been hit hard with foreclosures and vacant properties for sale. And with the combo lockboxes, we have had so many problems with vandalism, theft, unaccompanied buyers and scam artists posing as Realtors to collect cash "deposits" from their victims. I think our local boards should institute the same rule for the security of people and property.

Sep 11, 2010 11:44 AM
Richard Ruggaber
Metro Life Homes - Los Angeles, CA
California Real Estate - (818) 422-5035

Cameron I am so with you.  I always suggest they borrow a supra from their manager or a someone in their office.  We use the I boxes for one specific reason to protect our clients and to know who is entering at all times.

Sep 11, 2010 11:51 AM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Gary, Electronic boxes are great but it gripes me when agents complain and they are the one who won't join the board.

Melanie, Maybe you are right and the R.E. association wants more members.

Sep 11, 2010 11:58 AM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Richard, Thanks for stopping in. They should join the board and get their own key IMHO.

Sep 11, 2010 12:00 PM
Melanie Ross
Coldwell Banker Solano Pacific - Benicia, CA
Benicia CA & Vallejo CA Real Estate, 707-319-2828

I have found the iboxes are best even tho my partner and I handle REOS and we had to invest a chunk of change to meet the mls rules.  We still have combos but do not give out the codes as much as we did two years ago.  The iboxes are great for tracking and knowing who is going in the property.

Sep 11, 2010 12:21 PM
Damon Gettier
Damon Gettier & Associates, REALTORS- Roanoke Va Short Sale Expert - Roanoke, VA
Broker/Owner ABRM, GRI, CDPE

That sounds like a fair solution to me!  The last thing any of us need is more unauthorized hacks!

Sep 11, 2010 03:56 PM
William Feela
WHISPERING PINES REALTY - North Branch, MN
Realtor, Whispering Pines Realty 651-674-5999 No.
The issue of the lock box combo's has always been aan issue. I continue to change all vacant house combo's for the reasons above. The elec key doesn't solve the issue of showing requests not being answered, but at least it stops the lazy agent
Sep 11, 2010 08:31 PM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Melanie, The Ibox seems to cause people to treat the REOs with a little more respect by locking up when they are finished.

Damon, Agreed my friend.

Bill, Hey if it's vacant they can just go direct.

Sep 12, 2010 06:41 AM
Kathleen Daniels, Probate & Trust Specialist
KD Realty - 408.972.1822 - San Jose, CA
Probate Real Estate Services

Cameron, Our MLS put this rule into effect some time ago. I am an advocate and supporter of the rule … I agree that anyone in real estate needs the tools.

Sep 13, 2010 05:18 PM
April Hayden-Munson
Brookfield, WI
Brookfield Wisconsin Real Estate

Cameron, We don't have those boxes in the Milwaukee Wisconsin area - I just wonder though - do you have trouble with agents going into occupied houses?

Sep 16, 2010 08:18 AM
Cameron Wilson
Labrum Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
The Short Guy - Murrieta,Temecula,Menifee Californ

Kathleen, I kinda like the rule but on my REO listings if the agent has no Supra key I won't give them the code to the combo box. Join the board is my feeling.

April, Not very often.

Sep 18, 2010 07:45 AM
Not a real person
San Diego, CA

I suspect it has a lot to do with the fact that Supra tracks entries, providing better security and safety to everyone.

Oct 14, 2010 08:31 AM
David Robinson
Lloyd Cullen Real Estate - Murrieta, CA
Call Now (877) 828-0710

I am glad that the supra is mandatory now for properties. Makes it better to track who is coming to see the properties and when. Best move.

Oct 19, 2010 06:45 AM
Tony and Suzanne Marriott, Associate Brokers
Serving the Greater Phoenix and Scottsdale Metropolitan Area - Scottsdale, AZ
Haven Express @ Keller Williams Arizona Realty

I agree with David - Supra lockboxes provide key tracking information and integrate with our showing feedback surveys.

Jan 22, 2011 03:48 AM