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Math is your home selling friend. Especially when it's this simple!

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Real Estate Agent with Beach Realty & Construction on the Outer Banks of NC

Trust me, even if you are math challenged this information is easy to understand!  I was really good at math in school and now that I'm not practicing as much, I have to think about it a little more.  So, if you're like me, until you see these formulas, you're probably not putting much thought into this simple math.

Let's say you have some Sellers that are thinking of moving up but haven't quite made the commitment.  Perhaps this formula will help you.

  • If they're currently in a mortgage of about $250,000 at 6% interest their payment is about $1500.
  • For a $1500 payment over 30 years with a 4.5% rate, they can now borrow $300,000.

They can borrow $50,000 more and their P & I won't increase AT ALL!

  • If they're currently in a mortgage of about $500,000 at 6% interest their payment is about $3,000.
  • For a $3,000 payment over 30 years with a 4.5% rate, they can now borrow $593,000.

They can borrow almost $100,000 more and their P & I won't increase AT ALL!

What's even better is their rate of return.  Let's look at what happens in a few years when the market stabilizes and even starts to appreciate again. 

Without even doing the math, I know you can answer this one... If the market starts to appreciate say, 5%...which is better?  5% of $250,000 or 5% of $300,000?  5% of $500,000 or 5% of $600,000? 

Now let's talk about buyers.  We all have buyers on the fence today, right?  They're waiting for the BEST prices and the RIGHT time to buy.  They may end up hurting themselves if they are only thinking about price.  Here's some simple math to use with them.

It takes MORE than a 10% drop in price to overcome a 1% rise in rates.

  • $300,000 mtg - 30 yr term - 4.5% rate = P & I $1520
  • 10% drop in price - $270,000 mtg - 30 yr term - 5.5% rate = P & I $1533
  • $500,000 mtg - 30 yr term - 4.5% rate = P & I $2533
  • 10% drop in price - $450,000 mtg - 30 yr term - 5.5% rate = P & I $2555
  1. So even if prices go down 10%, but rates go up only 1%, they will still pay slightly more in their P & I payment. 
  2. It would have to be more than 10% drop in price to make it worthwhile. 
  3. Now, in my market it has dropped 35% over 5 years.  That's 7% a year. 
  4. In 1.5 to 2 years, values could be 10% to 14% lower. 
  5. Will interest rates still be 4.5% then?  Not likely.  THIS IS THE BEST TIME TO BUY!
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Information and content in this blog is original to Ilona Matteson.

Ilona Matteson

Beach Realty & Construction

Kitty Hawk Rentals

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Jami Van Den Bogaert
RE/MAX House of Brokers - Springfield, MO

Great post and something I think the media should do a story on for a real housing boost! I think I will reblog it to try and get the word out as much as possible. Something I have know but haven't been able to articulate like you have here.

Sep 14, 2010 05:40 AM
Anonymous
Arris Robinson

Great post! Thanks for keeping it simple for the "mathematically challenged" folks! ;)

Sep 14, 2010 05:52 AM
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Ilona Matteson
Beach Realty & Construction on the Outer Banks of NC - Duck, NC
Ilona Matteson

Pete - one of the techniques I teach agents is to use more questions.  Take a look at how you're presenting this and see if you can incorporate more questions with them so you're sure they are following along.  Just a thought.

Bill - Thanks!

Jami - Good idea.  This is good news and more should hear about it.

Arris - Simple Rulz!

Sep 14, 2010 06:07 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

I think this is a great time for anyone to buy if they can afford it.  Long term rates will go up. 

Sep 14, 2010 06:09 AM
Jack Mossman - The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Stockton
The Nines Team At Keller Williams - Stockton, CA
The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Stockton

My buyer's agents use an inhouse search technique for the beginning of any buyers' search.  So adding this as a spreadsheet to their presentation may easily get their buyers off the fence and into the field as much more motivated buyers ... thanks!

Sep 14, 2010 06:48 AM
Leigh Ann Holman
Leigh Ann Holman - Century 21 Glover Town & Country - Clarksville, AR
REALTOR - Century 21, River Valley, Arkansas (479)774-5166

You presented this perfectly.  It gives us great selling points and so simply put :) 

Sep 14, 2010 07:53 AM
Ty Lacroix
Envelope Real Estate Brokerage Inc - London, ON

Ilona, numbers are logic and home buyers for the most part do not use logic, they use emotions and unfounded advice as their criteria.

Ty

Sep 14, 2010 07:54 AM
Anonymous
Anonymous

When you can illustrate the justification to your clients as you've done, closing should be automatic, shouldn't it? Sometimes, it's better to utilize objects with your math so clients can actually see the information.

There are many agents who use this illustration to persuade their clients to offer a higher price if seller buys down the rate. That's why the rate or the price by itself isn't as important as the professional who educates and designs a plan most suitable for their client.

Sep 14, 2010 08:06 AM
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Kimo Jarrett
Cyber Properties - Huntington Beach, CA
Pro Lifestyle Solutions

When you can illustrate the justification to your clients as you've done, closing should be automatic, shouldn't it? Sometimes, it's better to utilize objects with your math so clients can actually see the information.

There are many agents who use this illustration to persuade their clients to offer a higher price if seller buys down the rate. That's why the rate or the price by itself isn't as important as the professional who educates and designs a plan most suitable for their client.

Sep 14, 2010 08:08 AM
Robert Amato
Bob Amato of Empire Home Mortgage Inc - East Meadow, NY

Ilona,

 Great rates + low prices = booming market!

This should be in every salesperson's arsenal of relpies and comments.

Sep 14, 2010 08:33 AM
Marsha Cash
RE/MAX Advantage - Stockbridge, GA

You have to take into consideration that they will need to sell at a lower price in order to take advantage of the purchase of a new home.  Somehow people don't make that connection.  They think they can't sell at the price they would need to, but they are anxious to buy a bargain!

Sep 14, 2010 08:33 AM
Claus Dieter
Guarantee Mortgage Corp. - San Francisco, CA

Ilona, great post from a marketing perspective! I understand this is what you wanted to accomplish, and you did!

Now, I am engineer by training and would like to play devil's advocate for a moment:

"But overall I pay much more". In your example you focus on monthly payment, not overall debt or overall cost of money (interest). There were payments made against the existing mortgage, but the new mortgage would start at zero for the new 30 year term. Overall you pay much more just because you pay the monthly payment for 30 more years.

"But what if I refinance?". That's right. If the potential home buyers qualifies for a larger loan to buy a home, they most likely also qualify to refinance their existing loan. In an "apple to apple" comparison the home buyer needs to compare the cost of his existing home refinanced at a low rate to the cost of the mortgage for the home they want to buy. In this case it's cheaper to stay!

"I like leverage if it goes up". A 5% appreciation based on a $300,000 value is better than based on a $250,000 value. If it goes wrong and the home depreciates 5%, you just lost 25% of your home equity (assuming 20% down and fairly new into the mortgage). Remember, math says it can go both ways!

 

Don't get me wrong, I think your examples are good from a marketing perspective. Just be prepared to have some answers when you meet a person that plays devil's advocate as I did above.

claus212

Sep 14, 2010 10:16 AM
Carrie Sampron
Home Smart Realty Group - Highlands Ranch, CO
ABR SFR & Kathy Sampron (303) 931-3629 Highlands R

I like the way you've presented this info.  Thanks!  Carrie

Sep 14, 2010 10:22 AM
Gladys Webb
Kreative Realty LLC - Tuscaloosa, AL

Great Post, I can get with the math flow....I wasn't very good with that in school either as some others have mentioned but it is good advice. Thanks

Sep 14, 2010 10:46 AM
Lynn M. Bower
John R Wood Realtors - Naples, FL
PA, ABR, GRI, RSPS, AHWD, PMN, CNE

I am not  a math person but you made it understandable. Thank you.

Sep 14, 2010 12:34 PM
Lee Ali
Las Americas Real Estate - Fairfield, CT

If you are math challenged, try http://www.KhanAcademy.org

Sep 14, 2010 02:23 PM
Marte Cliff
Marte Cliff Copywriting - Priest River, ID
Your real estate writer

I've always enjoyed math, so it all makes perfect sense to me.

I think what buyers today need to look at is the fact that they're going to live somewhere and pay for a roof over their heads ...either in a house they're buying or a house they're renting.

And if they buy now, with interest rates and home prices low, they can probably buy for a monthly payment that they can pay comfortably.

That is, unless they decide to buy more house than they really need and saddle themselves with a huge payment... some people will always do that.

So now they're in a fixed rate mortgage and they know the payment can't go up - except for the property tax portion, of course.

As they (hopefully) advance in their jobs, their income should go up - making that mortgage easier and easier to pay as time goes on.

Meanwhile, those who are renting will be paying higher and higher rent each year. So their increased income will go to pay that additional rent.

Unless you plan to move out of the community in the next couple of years, buying a home makes a lot more sense than renting.

Sep 14, 2010 06:38 PM
Doug Dawes
Keller Williams Evolution - 447 Boston Street, Suite #5, Topsfield, MA - Topsfield, MA
Your Personal Realtor®

People that are fence sitting have been relating, "What if I buy and the prices drop further?" My comment is usually "Well, how long do you plan on living here? 6 months, a year, 10 years? They usually say more than 5 years or they don't plan on moving, to which I share "Most times you need to be concerned about whether the market values are up or down is when you are preparing to sell. Try not to get into speculation of markets when determining whether you want to purchase 'your new home'

Sep 15, 2010 04:33 AM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

Makes sense to me. Thanks for another arrow in my quiver.

Oct 15, 2010 05:37 PM
Patricia Beck
RE/MAX Properties, Inc., ABR, GRI, SRES - Colorado Springs, CO
Colorado Springs Realty

Great info to show how interest rates really make a difference!  Bookmarked this one.

Dec 09, 2010 01:06 PM