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84 Comments on Low Balling Offers- Why Do Buyers Do it?
I do not understand why some agents want their buyers to pay more than they have to. If a client wants to make a $150,000 offer on a house that is listed "correctly" at $200,000, why not? If you look in the MLS, some of those offers get accepted.
I have heard more than one media real estate guru gush that "people are positively giving away houses!"
The low-ball offer is a variation on the greater fool theory. The low-baller believes that there is someone out there who is so desperate (or foolish) that they will take fifty cents on the dollar.
Television real estate advice types tell their true believer fans never to worry about offending a seller. Just toss that low-ball offer in there and see what happens! And overwhelmingly, what happens is a rejection and a door closed to future offers from the same party.
When the market eventually turns around, the bottom feeding instinct will probably linger for some time.
There are so many ways to look at a price, great post, great points!
I think they are eveeill and out to get us!
Good points. Offers are on a case by case basis. If you want the best deal do some research and make consult your clients with what you believe is the best possible offer depending on how in love they are with the home. Regardless I keep my clients informed and remind them that ultimately they are in control and that I am there to help strategize. This makes them a little more comfortable and open to listen to advice.
Stephen: I see you are from California also, and the problem is the National news paints a dreary picture of the overall real estate figures 'Nationally". We know in California prices are up 10% according to CAR.
My last three buyers have been very reluctant to believe me when I tell them that the market has changed and if they see a really low priced short sale that is listed low just to get offers then they think they can offer an even lower price!
In any market ......It's an offer !!!! Buyer does not have to accept it!!!
It's like dating !!
Sometimes fun sometimes not but it is an offer!!!!!
Rich Lee, Jeff Dowler, Missy Caulk...have some merit
Consider it a peace making process
Good blog .... I tell my sellers, that unfortunately, they must expect to get low balled and don't get mad -- it's business. Seems that buyers are looking to find the bottom dollar. Family, friends, media have set that mindset. Oh well, this too shall pass ....
I don't think it is because buyers are afraid of overpaying as suggested at the end. I think it is the nature of everyone to want something for nothing. It is up to us to give them a dose of reality and let them know there is no free ride.
Very timely reminder. The key difference between owner-occupants and investors, as you mentioned, is, "They don't care if they get the house or not, it's all about the numbers."
GREAT POST...I"m reblogging it for my Sacramento readers!
THanks
Tamara
Stephen - I was afraid that your post was going to be another 'how dare you low ball me' posts. Instead I was pleasantly surprised with your clear and well thought out points on market value and using a reasoned approach to purchasing a home. I bet your clients are very lucky folks...
The lowball offers I've seen with my listings priced from $700K to $3.5 million have all generally been the same sort of people, opportunists. They have cash or mostly cash and want to buy from a desperate seller. The hope is to get the home 10-20% below "market value". Their ultimate combination is a naive agent with a desperate seller and an old listing (on MLS for many months).
In those cases, the lowballer may pick up a home below market as a medium-term investment to use as a home but to sell when the market bounces back in 2-5 years. That's what I'm seeing.
"You want to offer $X on a $Y house... $Z below the market value I showed you among the comps. Tell me, do you want to buy a house or do you want to learn a harsh lesson?"
"We could give the owner a low ball offer, but I don't think it makes a lot of sense to enrage the owner and get your face handed to you."
"You've seen SOLD prices for similar homes in the neighborhood. The owner has seen the same analysis of SOLD homes in the neighborhood too. If you owned the house, and a buyer tossed you a stupid-low price, how would you react?"
How does a magician pull a rabbit out of his hat in his show? He put the rabbit IN the hat BEFORE the show started.
Scripts and dialogs are what we call "Rabbits".
We have to learn, practice, and internalize as many scripts as we can to handle objections with ease.
I think many buyers "do it" because they can "research" properties on Zillow, etc. Then they've done their due diligence and have read all the articles that homes are selling for 10%-20% below list price. Of course, they don't realize they've been reading national news, not local.
Buyers are as good as their buyers' agent - It's our job to give them all of the information possible to make the right decision. Run the comps and see what the home is worth and then add a little gravy if they really want the house. Their offer should reflect not only current market value but how much they really want the house. Low ball it if the comps support the claim but don't expect to get it. Compromise if it's "the one".
Investors and primary home buyers have two different mind sets. Investors are driven by numbers. They always want a great deal in my experience.
Just spent 2 hours on the phone with a client having this exact conversation. The home is assessed at $228,000 listed at $187,000 and not a short sale but is facing foreclosure. He wanted to offer $164,000! Finally he came around and offered $184,000 with $7000 in closing costs. The sellers accepted and he is getting an amazing house at an unbelievable price. If he had made his $164,000 offer they might have just let it go to foreclosure and written his offer off.
I personally find that when I cannot reason with a buyer and talk them out of a low ball offer they end up paying more for the home in the end.
Here in San Diego low ball offers aren't working any more. Prices have increased for 13 months straight July to July 09-10. If a buyer want to low ball I tell them they can do that but not expect to get a response much less the home.
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