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Licensing of Ohio Home Inspectors

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home inspectionFor his second topic on ColumbusBestBlog home inspector David Tamny picked a controversial subject.  In an email response when I begged him for another guest post for my blog, David offered licensing of home inspectors in Ohio and said it was a controversial subject. I think I emailed David back something along the lines of "fine." 

Freedom of speech on blogs

I knew licensing has been proposed a couple of times in the Ohio legislature.  I supposed some home inspectors were "pro" licensing, I supposed some Ohio home inspectors were "anti" licensing.   I thought the inspectors who would be "pro" licensing would  those who were experienced.  I thought those who were "anti" licensing would be those with less experience. 

David mentions a study I was unaware of about the impact of home inspector licensing in other states.  

I think I am pro-licensing because I believe OAR (Ohio Association of REALTOR®) is "pro"  licensing, not that I have given it a lot of thought. Or maybe I am "pro" licensing  because "if I have to be licensed, every one ought to be licensed."   I blogged about licensing home inspectors in Ohio at least once on my first blog Discover Columbus (formerly known as Columbus Best Blog.)  I  thought the crux of the support by the Ohio Association of REALTORS® was consumer protection.  Maybe not if you read David's take on why REALTORS® are "pro" licensing of home inspectors.  

Read what David has to say about  licensing of home inspectors in Ohio   on ColumbusBestBlog.  Or for those who don't read outside blogs,  David cross posted the entry to ActiveRain. 

Is OAR "pro"  Licensing of home inspectors so REALTORS® (or real estate agents in general ) are able to discipline home inspectors?  I bleeive I must have long been  "pro" licensing.  Yes, I must be "pro" licensing because OAR is but maybe it is not in the consumers interest for home inspectors to be licensed.  I was "pro" licensing.... hmmmm here's the proof on Discover Columbus - Home Inspectors are Not Licensed in Ohio:

"Previously on Columbus Best Blog which is now Discover Columbus .... Jan. 23, 2006 - How to pick a home inspector ... it's sad when links die... there is a dead link to the OAR (Ohio Association of REALTORS®) article about licensing home inspectors.  Seventeen months and still we don't have licensing of home inspectors in our state." 

The OAR links are old and broken.  Maybe I will have to see if I can find good links to see what they say about licensing.

 

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Jennifer Fivelsdal
JFIVE Home Realty LLC | 845-758-6842|162 Deer Run Rd Red Hook NY 12571 - Rhinebeck, NY
Mid Hudson Valley real estate connection
I think licensing of inspectors is a good idea, they need to be more accountable. This probably is the biggest investment a consumer will make so you need to have the advice of a competent inspector. If the inspector fails to provide good information the consumer has a place to go to. New York adopted licensing in the last year.
Aug 27, 2007 01:18 AM
Lenn Harley
Lenn Harley, Homefinders.com, MD & VA Homes and Real Estate - Leesburg, VA
Real Estate Broker - Virginia & Maryland

Interesting.  I would suspect that if an inspector is not in favor of licensing, there must be something in the licensing requirements that they can't or don't want to satisfy.

I don't believe, as Jennifer does that licensing will make inspectors more accountable any more than licensing makes real estate agents more accountable.

But, it will eliminate some of the cases of inspectors who are not minimally qualified who hang out a shingle. 

The MD inspectors are really dragging their feet.  But, more and more are getting through it.

I got a lot of private mail about my article on MD inspector licensing.  Mostly from inspectors who are not licensed.  I even got snail mail from one.  I even got a call from a home inspector trade assn who objected that I didn't mention them in my article.  I didn't because the state doesn't.  All I did was copy the state requirement. 

Home inspectors are VERY defensive about licensing.

 

Aug 27, 2007 02:21 AM
DDR Realty
DDR Realty - Newburgh, NY
Orange County NY

Requiring a state license to conduct home inspections is a helpful  way to verify the abilities of and ascertain information on the inspector. It seems to be working out in NY.

Aug 27, 2007 02:22 AM
Karen Rice Keller Williams Real Est
Keller Williams Real Estate - Hawley, PA
Northeast PA & Lake Wallenpaupack Home Sales

I really think that licensing is a good idea - as Jennifer said, they can be more accountable. Of course, licensing doesn't keep the real estate business, teaching field, medical field, etc. free of bad seeds either - but it does provide a structural framework - a starting point, a point of reference.

In my opinion, I think it's more important for the consumer to have a licensed home inspector than a licensed real estate agent!  When making the biggest investment of their lives, consumers are counting on an accurate, competently executed, and honest building inspection  to make their decision.  Any agent can lead them to a house...but should "any" inspector inspect it?

Good topic! 

Aug 27, 2007 02:25 AM
Elaine Reese, REALTOR® in central Ohio
Real Living HER, Powell Ohio - Powell, OH

I would favor licensing. Don't really see a downside. It would avoid a "handyman" deciding he can open up shop. The next step would be for seller's to write into the contract that the inspection must be done by a licensed inspector to avoid "Uncle Joe" from conducting the inspection with no insurance or knowledge of local codes, etc.

Aug 27, 2007 03:52 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Thanks all for the comments.  I don't know whether if inspectors are licensed in Ohio you would need to write in a contract that a buyer uses a licensed inspector.  If Dad or Uncle Joe has opinions and shares those with the buyer that's really up to the buyer whether to believe the person or to use a disinterested third party whom is licensed, insured etc. "knowledge of local codes"? Do most  inspectors in our market do code inspections?  If buyers want someone they trust to look at a house for them, they will.  Hopefully in addition buyers  will still use a good inspector (licensed if required by state law) to look out for their interest. I don't believe you can require a buyer to do a home inspection though.

I don't believe licensing in Ohio will change inspections much for most of us.  I think the inspectors most of my clients  use would slam dunk any requirements. 

Aug 27, 2007 04:43 AM
Missy Caulk
Missy Caulk TEAM - Ann Arbor, MI
Savvy Realtor - Ann Arbor Real Estate
Maureen, I think it is an itea whose has come. Too much inconsistency. Certain ones get hung up on certain items. I wish it was being considered in Michigan.
Aug 27, 2007 04:50 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Missy:  Maybe MI  should consider it, theres no rushing into it.  I think David's entry says licensing of home inspectors was first proposed in 1999 in Ohio....or did I read that in what I've written before about licensing?  I don't know if licensing would give us any more consistancy though, everyone has a different point of view. 

Aug 27, 2007 05:17 AM
David Tamny
Professional Property Inspection - Columbus, OH
The issue isn't so so much whether home inspectors should be licensed or not but what type of requirements should be in place. What we need is more than minimal requirements that will decrease the amount of consumer protection. The notion that reasonable standards restrict trade simply does not hold up to the light of reason.

What is being proposed before the Ohio legislature in HB 257 simply sets the bar too low. This bill proposes only 8 hours of education. That 8 hours is not on technical material about how to perform home inspections but on the requirements related to the law. In Ohio a cosmetologist has to have 1500 hours to cut hair. How would you feel about your doctor if he had to merely pass a written exam and see 10 patients along side another doctor before he could diagnose and treat you.

Low requirements such as these decrease the level of professionalism and consumer protection. Just because this bill has been introduced by a small group of home inspectors does not mean that the majority of home inspectors in Ohio have had input or endorse HB 257.
Sep 02, 2007 01:18 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Shouldn't those who want higher standards for home inspectors then get someone in the legislature to propose a bill more stringent licensing?  I kind of think if the bill (this bill or those that have been offered in the past ) would pass then the industry and consumer could work from there to make it tougher.  Then again I am not political.  It would be a start.  I think licensing standards for most fields have progressively gotten tougher even though with some the bar is still low.  

Sep 02, 2007 04:31 AM
Shawn Wilson
Wilson's Inspection Service - Washington Court House, OH
As a home inspector in Ohio I think having some type of licensing is a great Idea! I got into the home inspection business after buying my first house. I had a reputable company, a company used buy alot of realtors in my area inspect my home. Knowing now what I know I would of never bought my house. I think the licensing should be strict i'm not all apposed to it. 8 hours of C.E. they could make it 40hours and it would not make a diffrence most inspectors need real world experience. The C.E. hours I can read a book on home inspection and claim that as C.E. hours alot of the organizations hold meetings the time spent at the meeting can be claimed as C.E. credits. Requiring continued education is not going to make the inspector a better inspector. I don't know what the best way to make inspectors accountable for their actions is other than don't use them, if their not making money they are not going to stay in business. The unfortunate thing is alot of realtors still recommend companies like the one I used because they are not DEAL BREAKERS, they sugar coat things and make the house sound like it is in great shape when in actuality the home is need of major repairs just so the realtor's will recommend them again! I not saying realtors are to blame I work with a lot of great realtors but with all professions their are bad apples.
Sep 02, 2007 04:58 PM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

"The unfortunate thing is alot of realtors still recommend companies like the one I used because they are not DEAL BREAKERS, they sugar coat things and make the house sound like it is in great shape when in actuality the home is need of major repairs just so the realtor's will recommend them again! I not saying realtors are to blame I work with a lot of great realtors but with all professions their are bad apples. "

I wonder if that is a small town phenomenon, I sure don't see that in our market. Sellers do repairs based on the inspections. Real estate agents spend hours negotiating repairs for their clients based on home inspections.

I doubt "alot"  of agents sell out their clients in any market, though.

Real estate agents working in the buyers interest are not going to recommend someone "safe."  

Shawn specifically identifies members of NAR, "realtors" as the unscrupulous licensees in his market who are not working in their clients best interest. Strange.

You hear from buyers after the sale when they had a nit picking engineer who has done a zillion inspections and is up on the latest and greatest in home inspection go over the house with a fine tooth comb. You hear after the closing that the inspector missed something. Even when the seller did thousands of dollars in repairs for the buyer, you hear the inspector missed something.  The buyer now owner who has been in the house for four years complains that the inspector missed that the water heater was only going to last three years after closing or did not use his x ray vision to see behind paneling.  Why anyone would use an inspector who would "sugar coat things" is beyond me.  

It's better that deals be broken, there's plenty of houses to buy. Even in a sellers market it is better if the deal goes down if the house is defective and it can not be cured. I think most agents are going to believe that. I believe most deals go together with a lot of negotiating of the "buyers request to remedy" in our market.

I can't believe lots of "major repairs" are glossed over in home inspections in any market in hopes of future business from an agent. The home inspectors client is the consumer.  

The real estate agents would not get referrals from their past clients if they were selling their clients out.  Those real estate agents would  spend their lives dealing with issues after the sale. It could not be worth it. 

It makes a great story though. The competiton is too easy. The competition and "alot" of real estate agents (or "realtors") are in collusion.  Or even just the "bad apples."

 

Sep 02, 2007 08:14 PM
Mark H. Roe
BeSure Home Inspection Service - Lancaster, OH
BeSure Home Inspection Service
Maureen and all that have posted here. Yes as a Home Inspector, I am in favor of a fair home inspection licence law. I am not in favor of a bill that favors any one org. either. And that is what we are having happen in the bills that are trying to get pasted now. I am working with some other inspectors from Nachi, Ashi, and Nahi to write a Home Inspection Bill that will be org free and fair to all. But the most important thing is to make sure that the inspector has the qualifications, educations, insurance, and the ability to preform a home inspection for the consumer that is accurate. The only thing that I disagree with you on is this.. We do not inspect homes per code. My reason for this... Every city, and county has different codes and standards so there is no way that we could know all of them. Now if the state would make an mandatory state wide code that would be a whole new ball game. Thanks for this thread.
Sep 03, 2007 03:33 AM
Maureen McCabe
HER Realtors - Columbus, OH
Columbus Ohio Real Estate

Which organization does the current  bill favor?

I am not sure what "The only thing that I disagree with you on is this.. We do not inspect homes per code." I don't believe this entry says anything about 'inspecting per code.'  A comment mentions knowing local code and I think that is incorrect and responded that home inspections on existing homes in Central Ohio are not code inspections.   Thanks for the comment.

Sep 03, 2007 07:00 PM