I own 400 shares of Intel stock. On August 31, 2000, this stock reached its all time high: $74.87 a share. Today it trades at around $25 a share. Do I wish someone would have told me to SELL THAT STOCK while the value was still this high (and then buy it back when it plummeted to twenty bucks a share?)  Is it possible we may look back some day and regret NOT CAPTURING THE EQUITY WE HAVE IN OUR HOUSES NOW? Should we all sell our real estate and wait out the storm as (gulp!) RENTERS??????

Yesterday, I was invited to a workshop being given by a respected colleague of mine. It will be presented to MOVE UP BUYERS in our area. He is proposing exactly this: buyers immediately sell their homes, bank their equity, and RENT while they wait for even steeper declines in real estate prices. 

Final step in this plan is to swoop in when values are lower, and buy better real estate at a deeply discounted price, and much lower rates. Is the market is ripe for this strategy?

  • He believes real estate values will continue to go lower, causing equity (and net worth) to erode further
  • He believes RATES will be lower
  • Renting most likely will be cheaper than buying. In California, the house that rents for $2000 would have a payment of AT LEAST $4000 (not to mention the hidden costs of upkeep) As people fail to sell their houses, the supply of rental houses will grow, causing rents to remain low.
  • This solves the challenges of refinancing out of adjustable rate mortgages when jumbo loans are expensive and stated loans have very tough guidelines.
  • This allows the client time and money to pay off credit cards and re-work their financial lives to be able to have higher credit scores, and income that can be fully documented (right now this is the gold standard for mortgage applicants) 
  • This allows the client a clear cut path to getting into a better neighborhood, and the ability to assess the area before buying. My colleague is suggesting the client immediately RENT in the neighborhood they have targeted as their move up dream. 

Part of the plan is they bank their equity in a safe place with a return of about 5%. That they use the difference between house payments and rent payments to pay off other debts (cars, credit cards). He is also offering to refer them to one of his trusted real estate partners to list their home (and eventually buy another), and to assist them in positioning themselves to get the best mortgage when they do buy again.

When housing prices get lower within the next 2 years (before the client loses the ability to defer the tax from gains on their residence), he believes these clients will be able to buy a new residence getting both a better buy on the real estate, and a lower rate on the mortgage.

An interesting twist on this whole strategy is that my colleague is offering a long term strategy that carries no immediate gain or commission. I believe this adds credibility to his proposal.

The emotional side of me says a home is NOT a technology stock. That owning a home is so much more than an investment decision. That you ride out the storm and continue to pay for the leaky roof, patch the lawn, enjoy the tax deduction, and accept that these cycles occur. In the long run, real estate always appreciates. There is a value and a satisfaction in owning a home that transcends investments strategies. But.....

The business side of me says much of what he has proposed makes sense.

And what about that tiny little voice somewhere deep in my head that says being a renter for a little while just might be a delicious freedom?  What do you think?

 

 

 

15 Comments on Sell While You Can, Bank Your Equity. Ride Out the Storm as a RENTER

hind site is still 20 /20 and will never change, but sometimes we must go with our guts.

08/30/2007 09:55 AM by Susan Trombley Re/Max Broker Raleigh NC & Surrounding Areas (Re/Max Hometown)


My gut says NO. Sure renting is great, but what if you ride the storm and tips your boat? Prices aren't going to drop soooo much that renting now will build you wealth. Rent if you know you aren't ready to own. Rent if you think you need to wait for the ideal house to buy.. but for goodness sake, don't rent as if it were a black and red chip on the roulette wheel! That's like saying.. ride it out on black for 10 spins, then switch to Red and hope it hits!

08/30/2007 10:03 AM by West Hartford CT Real Estate Agent | West Hartford Realtor | Michael Chenkus (ERA Broder Group)


Susan: Yes, my gut would never tell me to sell my house.

Mike: Great analogy! It is risky, I couldn't agree more. He believes they are waiting to buy the ideal house. He is only inviting move up buyers who have been in their homes about 5 years.

08/30/2007 10:08 AM by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert (Peregrine Lending Company)


I just wonder "what if he's wrong?" And I don't know how the property taxes work in California, but in Florida, if you have the Homestead Exemption on your house (this is your primary residence) your property taxes cannot increase by more than 3% per year. We've owned our home for 9 years. If we buy later, we're going to pay at least 3 times as much in taxes. Sure, a bigger house would be nice, but for the most part I like the one I have. I'd say no way!

08/30/2007 11:11 AM by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach Real Estate) (Adams Cameron and Company)


Lisa: property taxes are based on the amount you pay for your house in California. This means if you buy at or around the same price, the tax difference would be small. He is suggesting this as a strategy for those who have been in their houses about 5 years and want to move up.

08/30/2007 11:39 AM by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert (Peregrine Lending Company)


He does have an interesting plan. BUT in my opinion the only folks who should even think about selling right now are folks that must sell. Other than that...wait. If they are just move up buyers why not wait for the market to increase before selling? It will cost them a lot of future equity to sell right now. But then again maybe they could get a better deal on a purchase if they had the money in the bank and could move if something came up that was a good deal. OK so I'm on the fence. I just don't like selling in a down market, 

08/30/2007 01:21 PM by Bryant Tutas-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc


Very interesting idea, good logic, but owning a home is a lot more than that, it is more than just an investment. It is a place we invest our heart and sole and time and energy.

08/30/2007 01:36 PM by Michael Eisenberg, Bellingham Realtor (Fairhaven Realty)


I do think the plan is interesting and is there something intriguing about renting and avoiding the huge mortage payment, taxes, upkeep, etc. etc. etc.  BUT, is NOW the right time to sell?  I don't know...  I would be afraid to sell low and buy low.. lol... I guess the dream is always to sell high, buy low...  

Or, I'd love to find a really great post about using all the equity some have gained here in California and using that to build wealth in our declining market.   Does it make sense to borrow against equity to buy now? That is what a client asked me the other day and they probably have 900k in equity (yes, no kidding) They should've sold long ago frankly as now they are DEEP within capital gains territory, married couple they probaby have a 200k exposure now...

 

 

08/30/2007 01:51 PM by Catherine Myers, Walnut Creek, CA Real Estate (Alain Pinel Realtors)


Wow Catherine, I find it hard to keep up with my blog ideas that I get from so many great comments around the 'rain. You do bring up a great topic for those with huge equities. I will research and attempt a blog.

I will say that they could borrow their equity, turn the house into a rental, and buy another. They could 1031 exchange the original house to avoid the tax...strictly off the top of my head. Or go buy a second home.

08/30/2007 02:13 PM by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert (Peregrine Lending Company)


California boom/bust cycle seems to get bigger each time, this one is a doozy. Cashing out and arbitraging to a lower cost place is a very astute move. Yes there is risk but it really is extremely limited, worst case scenario you are sitting on a pile of cash. Best case scenario you have a house and a pile of cash. The writing is on the wall, the current California market cannot withstand traditional underwriting and anything but ultralow interest rates. We havent even seen the real effect of the mortgage crunch hit just general affordability and marginal buyer disqualification, August is the first month of the real crunch.

The question isnt whether its a good strategy or not, the question now is if it is a realistic strategy, illiquid markets are hard to trade in.

For current renters the option is even clearer, buying simply not the way to go. This down market is just starting to mature.

 

08/30/2007 02:14 PM by Mikey


Hey Mikey: I always like it when you come to visit. You tell it like it is. Someday I would love to know who you really are. You are so much more than Mikey. You know. How you know, I would love to investigate.

08/30/2007 04:52 PM by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert (Peregrine Lending Company)


Janet... there is a good point about your topic. I agree with Mikey... there is a slight risk, but it could pay off, as long as you don't miss the boat per se. But I don't think this holds true in every housing market. It does make the most sense in the California market.  Good post.

jeff belonger

09/01/2007 04:33 PM by Jeff Belonger -- The FHA Expert.com -- FHA Loans -- FHA mortgages -- Mortgages (Infinity Home Mortgage Company, Inc)


If a person is living in their house ONLY as an investment, then yes, go for it, do whatever - it could be fun and exciting and maybe pay off . . . however, to me a house is a home and I would not easily leave my home. I think it is a matter of perspective - not many people are in the position of uprooting themselves or maybe an entire family to gamble on what "might" happen. My two cents . . .

09/07/2007 12:24 AM by Deborah Ryman, Realtor Beach Properties Santa Cruz County Vacation Homes (American Dream Realty, Santa Cruz, Capitola)


From a person with seven years invested in a financial degree and 20 plus years in the financial industry it is extremely obvious and simple to understand this is just the beginning of a very huge financial correction..   Just answer one question and one question only..   Who is going to support this insane ponzi scheme of real estate..  Where is the money going to come from..   It simply does not exist.   Of course selling now and buying later is extremely safe ..  It is a given real estate will drop another 50 %.  Trust me this is just the beginning..    I only wish you people who seem to promote their experience in finance and real estate would go to school for seven years instead of a 2 week licensing class before you are allowed to deal with people.  

09/07/2007 06:07 PM by annon


This is a very interesting scenario.  I'm actually having this same argument with my husband on our rental property.  I want to sell and bank the money, he wants to hold on to it.

Not sure that I would consider it with my primary residence.  It would make sense for empty nesters who are wanting to sell and move down anyway?

As someone above mentioned it may also make sense for someone who has to sell their home.

I'll have to think about this one.

09/07/2007 07:04 PM by Kate Bourland; Redding Mortgage, Loss Mitigation, Money Merge Accounts (Windsor Capital, Dyer Beech & U First Financial)


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