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DOWNSIZING AMERICA...PROXIMITY IS KEY; Mini-Estates Are Being Created Right Here In Southampton!!!

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DOWNSIZING AMERICA: Proximity is key; Mini-estates are being created, right here in Southampton!!! Builders are building them and buyers are buying them---where is it heading? I think we may have a trend here!

No more 10,000 Square foot houses--no more multiple acres of land to manage and no more cookie cutter designs for this "New Home" buyer! No! They want the new and  special, custom-home on a 1/3 to 1/2 acre, near everything including the ocean and the center of town---at least here they do!!!

THE NEW, "NEW HOME" BUYER

What is it that buyers like about a brand new house??? I have asked and I have seen the numbers of people who like the idea of living in a house that no one else has ever lived in. Some don't mind creatng that kind of a house and they go for a complete renovation before they ever move in....

The other kind of buyer who wants only the un-lived-in house or a"new build" is the wealthy one willing to pay for the house of their dreams---a new house with all the custom details that they have selected....this was a rare buyer in the past but they are out there now looking in large numbers, looking to buy a house that will never be duplicated.A NEW CUSTOM BUILT HOME..and they want it for 1/2 of what they would have paid in the past. They want a custom home with the Great Room, wine cellar, home theater, guest cottage/ pool house, large pool and all the mill-work, stone walkways and gourmet accoutrements in the large eat-in kitchen...They want an "estate" feeling on a smaller scale..a Mini-Estate, in other words! 

THE NEW HOME BUYER IN TODAY'S MARKET

In the past 6 months, I have had 3 "New Build" buyers---they want a brand new house, built to their specs and they want it to be spectacular! The house to the right has become a masterpiece for a buyer who, in another market--as in '07  would have been looking for at least one acre and a 10,000 square foot house...in the estate section!!

However, in this market, where deals are fewer than in '07 or even early '08, the new house buyer has a budget in mind---a budget that you and I may never have the opportunity to utilize, but a budget none-the-less! The plan seems to be to take advantage of the real estate recession while it is still in full swing--to enter the Hampton's market in a brand new home at a low price and give it the look and special features that only an estate area home would have had in the glory days of the housing boom.

Instead of paying $10Million or more for an estate with tennis and grounds that look like a national park, the new house buyer is looking to be near everything; being able to walk to the ocean beaches and to the shops, theater and restaurants is the key---

And they want it to be a manageable lawn with gardens that surround the house and pool. The house, too, needs to be around 5000 Square feet and not much more than that---too unwieldy if it is any larger....And they want it all for under $5Million.

Extended family members are all part of the new plan...grown children, their children, elderly parent...all accomodated on the premises. These are the important things that are all part of the buyers plans.THE EXTENDED FAMILY

It is not a matter of downsizing to save money necessarily; it IS a matter of PROXIMITY.  The "New House" buyer is a person of wealth AND family values...they have the grit and they have the determination to live as a unit, play and learn as a unit and they want to be able to walk to everything as they do it!!!

This is the new "New House" buyer here in Southampton--will this trend be set and will it spread to the other Hamptons??? Will it become the new way of co-habitating in our "New World"??

HAS YOUR MARKET BEGUN TO REFLECT THIS NEW WAY OF LIVING? Please let me know if you are seeing the same phenomenon in your markets.......

Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Christa: I DO think it is affecting them as well...I have seen family values changing and lifestyle as well.  In the group of buyers who would normally have distant relationship with their family elders and uninvolved with their young adult children, I have seen major shifts in the attitude toward including them. The major influence on home values has changed wealth levels to such a degree that the "new buyer " is including this new way of life and extended family members in their home purchases.

Oct 12, 2010 04:46 AM
Mickey Mouse
Disneyland Real Estate - Heron Bay, AL

2 things:  Reminds me of an article I read regarding a cut off point for those that woud be able to retire and those that would have a much more difficult time retiring, the cut off seemed to be about those born before 1960, of course I was born after that year LOL...but we all know, that the baby boomer generation right now is the one with the money.  I am stil in the tail end of the generation but my husband was born in 1947.

We've been looking for acreage with a nice house, pool, indoor arena and pastures for horses for several years, trying to find where we wanted to retire.   I see my husband wanting less acreage as he gets older, and I definitely want less house, I"ve never looked at a house over 7200 sq ft and actually, I want one about 3500 sq ft.  We've been looking in multiple states in the SW part of the US.  And here is what I have watched over the past couple years.

TONS of "ranches" and beautiful "estates" with acreage for horses, cattle etc., with a huges house, ususally a guest house and pool.  Most of the places I started watching, some since late 06 are still on the market or just came back on the market w/ a different realtor or the same realtor keeps taking it off and then putting it back up so people won't know it's actually been on the market for 3/4 years now.  These "big" places are at about half of what they started out at or more.  

We have less "millionaires" than we did 3 years ago, the younger generation is changing or "having to change".  Remember the nightime soap "Dallas"?  They either don't want that lifestyle, it seems to be cool now to be "green" and socially responsible or they can' afford it.  Use to be in Texas, where I"m from, lots of folks wanted horses and a big place to keep them.  This younger generation is having a harder time, for the most part, affording places to do that.  And, the boomer generation that is getting older, they were the ones who watched Roy Rogers and all those westerns and dreamed of owning "Land" or having that luxurious lifestyle of seen on tv, and they are downsizing, as we all know.

The younger generation grew up with the conveniences of drive through's, fast food and everything else fast.  No wonder they want to be close to the action, and not stuck out on an "estate" miles from the conveniences they are accustomed to, even if they can afford it.  This is just a real quick humble opinion.  Thanks for making me think!

Oct 12, 2010 05:24 AM
Anna Tolstoy
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Natick, MA

Paula, I think you made a great observation. Overall - the way things are, and what people want to see in the new house they buy - it's quality and customization way above quantity (aka sq. footage) I also see "second home buyers" - who bought a house before, and fixed it up to their needs, updated it, as well as fixed some "this old house" issues - they are TIRED. hey don't want to spend money and effort - mainly actually effort and time - on the fixing process, and want to move in and be done with renovations. Until the roof gets old or something....

Again, this is not to say I have clients who want to buy a mansion, but I noticed this trend too... "It's in the air"...

Oct 12, 2010 05:26 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Frances: I see that the same is happening there, it appears! I think people are beginning to see that this "new" way of life is in for the long term and they are making adjustments for the long term too! If we are aware that this is what is happening in this business, we can "make hay" while it lasts. looks like you are on top of it!

Anna: It is "in the air"--that says it very well. We all know that things have changed...some more than others and it is time to get on with whatever kind of life that works for us. I do believe that it is a major trend and we all would be further ahead to acknowledge it and move on with it.

Oct 12, 2010 05:47 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Corinne: That's what i am seeing too--no one wants to look back and say"Oops!--guess I went too big" and as a result, the market is reflecting back to us the way the buyers are adjusting.

Oct 12, 2010 06:14 AM
Ellie Shorb
Compass Real Estate - Chevy Chase, MD
Realtor DC, MD & VA Luxury Home Expert

Paula- There are lots of homes sitting for quite a while around here (DC Metro area)  in the upper bracket range... However, I am seeing folks still building fairly sizeable new homes (specifically 3 in the 21056 zipcode) - this may be because building costs of luxury homes have dropped significantly per sq. foot and the few buyers who have lots of cash are willing to "rush in" while so many others are "rushing out". One home in particular was just built in 21056 that is well over 10K sq. feet. Not surprisingly, a few folks are looking at that decision and wondering - why? Just for appearances sake it certainly seems excessive...

No doubt you are right though, that in most cases folks are downsizing. I am seeing some foreign investors building and buying very large homes in the Chevy Chase  and Bethesda areas too.... to them, our prices and loan rates are a bargain. But again, we are talking a tiny fraction of the population and a niche market of luxury home buyers.

Oct 12, 2010 06:45 AM
Jeff Wilmoth
Barrett Financial Group, LLC - Senoia, GA
If you need a mortgage, call us! 404-597-5662.

We don't see too many buyers in "our neck 'o' the woods" wanting 5000 square foot homes.  Other than that, I do agree that you are on to something (new construction) and there seems to be a slight trend in our market as well.  Problem is, is that you can't build them for what they (foreclosures) are selling for...

Oct 12, 2010 06:48 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Ellie: I just now spoke to our Village Building and Zoning diretor and he tells me there a just a few plans coming in on bigger houses--they are still building them but not anywhere near what they used to see.

Jeff: I think what may be happening is that the "new house" buyer plans on putting everything into the house and that includes all the bells and whistles that he may have put into an even bigger house in the past--

Oct 12, 2010 07:01 AM
Cynthia Fleming
Realty One Group - Laguna Beach, CA
Agent; Laguna Beach

I just want to know what we're going to do with all the McMansions? There's going to be an awful lot of them out there as everyone downsizes :(

Oct 12, 2010 07:11 AM
Simon Mills
Mills Realty - Toluca Lake, CA

In some respects everything is relative.  Buyer's of 10,000 SF now want 5,000 and 5,000 SF buyers are looking at 3,000 SF.  That is happening in many desirable areas.  

Oct 12, 2010 07:14 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Cynthia: Me too!! after the '29 crash many of the mansions that were a product of the roaring 20's were donated to the local museums and other public institutions...they were just too big for anyone to live in...maye we will see the same thing happen.

Oct 12, 2010 08:28 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Simon: So I guess that means you are seeing a similar thing happening there?  I think we are all going to see lots of it soon!

Oct 12, 2010 08:29 AM
Gordon W. Miller
Green Mountain Real Estate - Burlington, VT

Thanks for posting your observation of a new trend in your market.

I just finished reading "The Great Reset" by Richard Flordia. Very on-target, although I don't agree with all his crystal ball gazing it is a thought provoking thisis.

Link to a review: 

http://search.barnesandnoble.com/The-Great-Reset/Richard-Florida/e/9780061937194

 

Oct 12, 2010 08:46 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Gordon: I read a few pages of the Great Reset and will have to buy it now--thanks for bringing it to my attention!

Erica:I know what you mean--these houses that I speak of here are roomy and not too big for their lots...at least that is what the village allows and they err on the side of caution when it comes to the allowable "volume" of a building.

Oct 12, 2010 12:26 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

I think a lot of people are tired of the larger houses for many reasons, and we have few multiple acre homes around here to begin with.

Oct 12, 2010 04:39 PM
Gordon W. Miller
Green Mountain Real Estate - Burlington, VT

Paula,

Another concept is "Form Based Codes", a new planning concept. As a member of our local planning commission I recently attended a workshop on the subject. Very interesting and thought provoking. Existing zoning regulations are more "one size fits all" concept which can result in property that is zoned out of existence. This concept promotes use based upon the functionality of the building.

Link for additional information.

http://www.formbasedcodes.org/

The video is also worth watching, although a little long (30 min)

Oct 13, 2010 01:10 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Christine: It appeasrs that smaller is a trend accross America with some not there totally yet--Some homeowners still want the sprawling house but I see it becoming fewer and fewer.

 

 

Oct 13, 2010 03:24 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Gordon: Thanks for the link--I will take the time to review the video as well. 

Oct 13, 2010 03:25 AM
Gordon W. Miller
Green Mountain Real Estate - Burlington, VT

Paula,

I came across this today and thought you would get a chuckle from some of the photos. Enjoy.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jeff-speck/10-worst-things-suburban-sprawl_b_761574.html

 

Oct 14, 2010 03:33 AM
Paula Hathaway, REALTOR, LBA
Douglas Elliman Real Estate - Southampton, NY
...A Local Expert in all The Hamptons

Gordon: Quite interesting; I wonder if this trend towards smaller is better, walk to everything, small town feeling is going to really catch on? I also wonder if the planning boards of these areas will see the light! we may see a resurgence of the smaller city with residential areas start to develop again. That reminds me; Iwas in Flint, Michigan last week visiting my brother and i saw such a clean and neat city with the Art Deco buildings all cleaned up and their signs fresh and still in the Deco Script--The old brick streets looked sensational! It was a real surprise because I was hearing how the city was on fire---while I was there we saw 2 houses burning down--that is after 6 weeks ago when 5 at a time were burning and no one did anything! These were crack houses at one time---not any more!!! I do not condone the burning but I understand that the populationhas had enough of the crime and drug dealing...Thanks for attaching the link!

Oct 14, 2010 05:23 AM