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HouseLogic: Realtors® Beware of Copyright Infringement

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Real Estate Agent with Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME

Cut Paste UndoHouseLogic for Realtors®

It's that time again - time to talk about copyright infringement and what is and isn't good practice.  With the recent push of the Realtor® Content Resource by HouseLogic, I've seen a lot of what I (and probably a few lawyers) would see as copyright infringement.  Even if it doesn't fall under "breaking the law," a lot of what I'm seeing is just plain bad practice.

If you haven't checked it out yet, HouseLogic is a consumer-oriented website focusing on homeownership.  I've spent quite a bit of time there and so far the content has been excellent in my eyes.  From home repair to finances, HouseLogic does a great job of educating buyers about their homes and the issues that come with ownership.

Cut and paste.  Cut and paste.

As an arm of the National Association of Realtors®, certain benefits to us, its members, are provided free of charge.  One of these benefits is the ability to reprint the articles for our own use.  Now we could argue over whether it's good or bad practice to use other writers' material on our blogs and other marketing materials, but let's just all pretend for a moment that there are times when a) you have writer's block or b) you find something that you just know you couldn't write any better.  Enter the Realtor® Content Resource side of HouseLogic.

With a plethora of articles covering so many topics, you're bound to find one in there that you think would benefit your readers and once you find it you're free to post it your blog.  Of course, as with all things, you have to follow the rules.  HouseLogic does have a reprint rights policy spelled out, but I'm seeing it violated time and time again.

If you're like me, you hate reading terms of service, policies, agreements, etc.  They're boring and usually full of a lot of legalese that will put you to sleep in a matter of minutes (unless you're a lawyer).  When you boil down the reprint rights policy, it's not really that difficult to follow.  I've taken the liberty of giving you a few tips to keep you out of hot water with NAR and HouseLogic.

  1. Do not use any of the photos (or video) on the site.  Period.  End of story.  They are not owned by HouseLogic and are licensed from another company.  I'd be willing to bet this company is sniffing out their photos across the internet as I type this.
  2. Do not change the text of the article.  You are allowed to modify the aesthetics of the words, but not the words themselves.  Change fonts or modify font sizes, but don't mess with the actual text.
  3. Give credit for the articles.  If you simply cut and paste the article without a mention of the author or HouseLogic, you're in violation of the reprint rights policy.  HouseLogic clearly spells out that you must include the following: original title, the author's byline, the article as it originally appeared on HouseLogic (see number two), and a copyright notice that must read: "Visit Houselogic.com for more articles like this. Reprinted from HouseLogic.com with permission of the NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF REALTORS®."  You must also include a link back to the site (I would suggest linked the words "HouseLogic.com" in the copyright notice).
  4. Do not reprint the news found on the site under "News and Activity" as this is licensed content from other sources.
  5. If you plan on using more than twenty five articles a month, you must get permission from HouseLogic to do so.  If you're using twenty five articles a month on your blog, you should probably give up anyway - that's my opinion.

So there you have it folks, the basics of the HouseLogic reprint rights policy.  Avoid copyright infringement issues by following those simple rules and you'll be able to pull from a great new source when you're stuck for content.

P.S.  I wrote this after seeing so many violations of the reprint rights policy on so many blogs.  It drives me nuts, so if I can help one person understand the rules, I've done my job and perhaps saved my sanity.

photo courtesy of Steve Riley SEA

********UPDATE********

If you find yourself reading the comments, you will see that in my list of five things to know about the reprint rights policy, the first tip about use of photos came into question.  When I wrote this I was not considering the "get the code" option generated by HouseLogic and speaking specifically about wholesale cut and paste of the entire article (the HTML code only gives you a short blurb and then to read more, you must continue on to HouseLogic's site), I didn't consider the fact that the photos were appearing in the output of the HTML code that was generated. 

This caused some confusion over what I was saying and then eventually lead to several calls to NAR by commentors as well as some contact with Todd Carpenter (NAR's Social Media Manager) who forwarded the question to the HouseLogic team.  I have quoted the section of the reprint rights policy in comment #43 that started it all (and also give a ton of background on where the idea for this post came from).  As you can see in the comments, NAR has said that the use of the photos is okay (although I have not heard this directly, the sources that are quoting the phone calls they made are very reliable people who aren't known for just spouting off anything as law without knowing their facts).

I'm hoping that this might get HouseLogic to rewrite this small segment of the reprint rights policy as it would definitely help if it were more clear.  The conversation on the post "Comments Disabled." that I mentioned in my comment between myself, Alan May, and SarahGray Lamm is what kicked all this off and the person in question didn't use the photo in their post anyway.

Personally, I want people to copy my posts and spread them around the internet - with attribution of course!  Check out "Copyright and RErockstar.com" for more details on that.  I guess I'll have to write an official version of it that applies to ActiveRain only.

 

********FINAL UPDATE********

As noted in HouseLogic's comment the post as written is correct in its assessment of the reprint rights policy when copying HouseLogic material in its entirety.  If you use the Realtor® Content Resource and only use the "get the code" function, which leads readers back to the original article if they wish to read the entire thing, you are not violating any copyrights (even in regards to the photos) as long as you use the code without changing it.  Hope that clears up some of the prior confusion.

Comments(119)

Anonymous
ian Gray

HouseLogic is a wonderful site. However, I believe that just sharing a link, perhaps on Facebook, to an interesting, helpful, and current article on the site may be enough for clients and potential clients to appreciate your gesture. They then know that you get your information from a quality source, you are current with market conditions, and that you are willing to share the knowledge with them.

Keeps you looking good and out of troiuble!

Oct 31, 2010 12:59 PM
#100
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Bill - It does look jus tlike the Tynt system.  I'm guessing it is one and the same.

John - Thanks for posting the NAR number here as I suspect there will be some people who want to reconfirm the answers.  I also owe you an apology, apparently in my very long comment I referred to you as Bill for some reason.  Sorry about that!

Lorraine or Loretta - Thanks for the book recommendation, I've been trying to read more.  I used to do tons of it, but let it slip after I left the music industry (touring is a great place to read books).

Paul - I checked out your post about Righthaven LLC, I'm surprised I hadn't heard of them yet.  Sounds like they're going to do their best to eliminate copyright infringement the painful way.  I wonder how long it will last though.  I rememeber in the early days of the internet, I received a cease and desist from Coca Cola for merely mentioning their name on my site.  It was common practice for large corporations to have someone search for their branded products through out the internet, but they've slowed over the years.  I think they may have gotten to a point where they felt it was too much to keep up with, kind of like music file sharing on the internet.  I wonder if copyright issues such as wholesale copying of blog content will someday just be viewed as "normal."

Hal - If it's a WordPress site, I'd definitely take a few moments to check out Tynt or perhaps even CopyScape.

Jenny - You bring up a great point.  One of the things I do is read a lot of blogs.  I often get tons of great ideas, but am then able to put my own spin on them and localize them to my area.  Works much better for SEO too.

Margaret - I love Tungle and it's becoming one of my go-to tools that I use everyday.

Brian - Lenn takes copyright very seriously.  More so than most.  How she chooses to deal with it is her personal choice, but there is no need to call her a jerk for it.

Chris - Thanks.

Oct 31, 2010 02:47 PM
Mike McCann Nebraska Land Broker
Mike McCann - Broker, Mach1 Realty Farm & Commercial Land Broker-Auctioneer Serving Nebraska - Kearney, NE
Farm & Commercial Property For Sale 308-627-3700

Mine ain't worth a crap but I will just keep writing them...that way I am safe...

Oct 31, 2010 03:18 PM
Cliff Paulick
End Zone Realty - Owasso, OK

I'm glad I'm not the only one who reads the policies. Compared to other sites, I think the terms you outlined above are fairly generous.

I'd recommend putting something like, "I'm not an attorney. This is not legal advice. etc." whenever you talk about legal stuff like terms and conditions and taking stuff out of legalese.

Nov 01, 2010 01:29 AM
Jerry Gray
Wilkinson ERA Real Estate - Winston-Salem, NC
Serving the Triad Since 1980

Matt...Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

 

Jerry Gray CRB,CRS,GRI,SFR / Allen Tate Realtors / Winston Salem, NC / 336-918-2433

Nov 01, 2010 03:14 AM
Paul Armstrong
Realty Network - Laguna Hills, CA
Serving Orange County & The Long Beach Area

Very informative post Matt,  Thanks!

Nov 01, 2010 04:34 AM
Rebecca Nystrom
RE/MAX Renaissance - Phoenix, AZ

Once again, your posts are golden.  Thanks for this information. 

Nov 01, 2010 08:48 AM
Margaret C. Taylor
Century 21 New Millennium MD - Mechanicsville, MD
St Marys/Calvert/Charles MD Real Estate Agent

Great article and reminder.  I like the widget but I think I'll stick to my own articles as much as possible.  I guess Rismedia is similar.

Margaret C.

Nov 01, 2010 10:20 AM
House Logic
Chicago, IL

This conversation about engaging with HouseLogic content is great! We thought we'd jump in to offer some clarification about imagery since you all have raised some great questions. Matt Stigliano is correct: REALTORS® are free to use HouseLogic articles in their consumer communications provided they're properly attributed to HouseLogic and the author, per the guidelines here: http://members.houselogic.com/reprint-rights

If you decide to use the REALTOR® Content Resource (RCR), you have both 1) a centralized access to the articles, and 2) an easy way to format the content to your needs-Facebook, Twitter, blog, website, e-newsletter, or handout. Use of HouseLogic imagery is not permitted, unless you use an approved content format as provided through the REALTOR® Content Resource.

This is because the RCR automatically creates a thumbnail image and blurb about the content and a link to HouseLogic; the thumbnail, blurb, and the link keep us on the right side of our copyright/distribution agreements. Our lawyers-and our content providers-tell us that the thumbnail, content snippet, and link together constitute a HouseLogic usage. Use of a full-sized image or video with HouseLogic content on a domain other than HouseLogic.com is not permitted.

Nov 02, 2010 08:20 AM
John Handschuh ABR SRES
RE/MAX Legacy - Chalfont, PA
Bucks County Real Estate

Matt, Excellent information, Reblogged this.

Nov 03, 2010 12:44 AM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

HouseLogic - Thanks for dropping by and reporting what we had discussed.  Special thanks to Christina for following me back and forth as we spoke about the intricacies of what you can and can't do depending on how you're doing it.  Getting clarity on an issue like this will only serve to make it easier to use.  And thanks to Todd Carpenter for giving me access to the team to discuss and question - that's always appreciated.

I will update the post later today.

Nov 03, 2010 03:32 AM
Susan Gaieski
Water Pointe Realty Group - Jupiter, FL
Director for Social Media & Technology

Matt

Thanks for the post.  Unfortunately from time to time we all interpret what we think we are interpretting. Thanks for keeping us in line. 

Nov 03, 2010 05:05 AM
Hal Goodtree
Goodtree & Co., Inc. - Cary, NC
Web 2.0 for Business

Matt - Thanks for the info about Tynt and CopyScape.

I can actually track "Uncommon Uses" through Feedburner, a free syndication tool from Google.

Nov 05, 2010 12:46 AM
Carol Letcher
Desert Properties Realty - Chandler, AZ
Owner/Broker

I think it's best to write about your own experiences (carefully) than someone else's material, unless you want to reblog about a post on AR..Much safer to do your own material.  

Nov 05, 2010 04:03 AM
DeeDee Riley
Lyon Real Estate - El Dorado Hills CA - El Dorado Hills, CA
Realtor - El Dorado Hills & the Surrounding Areas

Great information Matt!  I had a client recently send me the HouseLogic site as she found it really helpful and wanted to make sure I know about it so I could share with my other clients.

Nov 06, 2010 06:27 PM
Wayne B. Pruner
Oregon First - Tigard, OR
Tigard Oregon Homes for Sale, Realtor, GRI

Thanks for the advice. I am sad to say that I never heard of Houselogic before. I will check it out.

Nov 08, 2010 02:29 PM
Sybil Campbell
Fernandina Beach, FL
Referral Agent Amelia Island Florida

WOW Matt, I'm so glad you posted this blog.  It is so easy to violate copywrite rules without even knowing it.

Nov 11, 2010 11:51 PM
Robert Adams
Keller Williams Realty, South Tampa - Tampa, FL

Excellent research, and you are right: so many things that we do have pages of fine print that we can get very glossy eyed should we read it all.  Thank you for putting it into a concise format, others should take example.

Dec 23, 2010 11:51 PM
Matt Stigliano
Kimberly Howell Properties (210) 646-HOME - San Antonio, TX

Robert - Some days I wonder if I should just go into research.  I love doing it, whether it's on something like this or on a property.

Dec 25, 2010 06:36 AM
Sharon Alters
Coldwell Banker Vanguard Realty - 904-673-2308 - Fleming Island, FL
Realtor - Homes for Sale Fleming Island FL

Matt, came here via Lenn via Sally Cheesman's post - wow! Great information and a resource we will at least check out as we are revamping our main web site and even though I am not a fan of canned content, for some things it might be fine. Happy 2011!

Dec 31, 2010 09:35 AM