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Condo Expiration Date fast approaching! December 12/7/2010 for FHA approved condos

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Mortgage and Lending with Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia NMLS#: 728211


Last year FHA announced that they will be beginning a condo recertification process for condos that were approved prior to October 1, 2008, requiring that they are re-approved on or before December 7, 2010.  Well its hard to believe, but December 7th is almost here, and there are very few condos that have been re-approved.  Welcome "Condo Judgment Day!" 

From FHA: "New FHA case numbers will not be assigned for those projects where the project approval has expired and the project has not been recertified or reapproved prior to the project expiration date."  This was all initially announced in the FHA mortgagee letter issued November 6th 2009-46 B
Bottom line, No case numbers = NO FHA loans!

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My understanding is that the approval process can take 30-45 days.  45 days from now is past 12/7/10!  I expect FHA will become more busy as more people become aware of the issue.

This is of major concern to both people looking to buy condos and Realtors who have condos as current listings (or plan to have any in the foreseeable future) not to mention the impact to the affected condo owners with respect to property values. 

See for yourself:

I'm going to use Maryland and zip code 21044 as an example.  Out of the 33 records, currently only 2 of them will be approved for new case numbers on 12/7/2010!  This in turn means NO FHA buyers will be approved on ANY of the 31 other condos.

What to do?

First, the whole condo approval process is time consuming and it is not clear who is responsible for it.  There are a number of at risk parties who would all like the process to be completed, this includes: owners, Realtors, lenders, buyers, HOA's, etc.  My understanding is a lot of the lenders are not comfortable making certifications for such things as:

"the Lender has no knowledge of circumstances or conditions that might have an adverse effect on the project or cause a mortgage secured by a unit in the project to become delinquent (including but not limited to: defects in construction; substantial disputes or dissatisfaction among unit owners about the operation of the project or the owner's association; and disputes concerning unit owners; rights privileges, and obligations")

The lender is supposed certifying about defects in construction and dissatisfaction among unit owners?  Seriously?  But I have heard (yet to see a list) that some lenders to have departments that handle condo approvals.

Potentially the easiest would be to encourage owners to get their HOA's / Management Companies to take care of it as they have access to a majority of the required items.  The good news is that some projects only require a recertification, while others require a new full approval.  In the case of a full approval there will likely be attorney fees or other related fees with obtaining some or all of the information.   

  1. If project initially approved on or after January 1, 2000, then the project is eligible for the recertification process.
  2. If project initially approved prior to January 1, 2000, full project approval is required.
    • For full approval see mortgagee letter issued November 6th 2009-46 B
    • You can find FHA's FAQ at http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/condo/faqs_condo.pdf 
    • According to the FAQ, HRAP processing can be done by a Lender, Developer, HOA or their authorized representative and should submit the request to the appropriate HOC.

FHA Homeownership Centers by State http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/hoc/hsghocs.cfm

The good news is that FHA does have a phone number with seemingly knowledgeable staff who may be able to help out (800) CALL-FHA or (800) 225-5342.  If anyone has any more information or insight I would be glad to hear, maybe I am jumping the gun and some new guidance will come out from FHA on how to deal with this issue, I sure hope so...

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Comments(9)

Margaret Woda
Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc. - Crofton, MD
Maryland Real Estate & Military Relocation

Good information, Nick.  I wondered where this matter stood.

Is Gary your dad?  He was my broker at RE/MAX Spirit in Severna Park many years ago.

Oct 27, 2010 02:57 PM
Nick Pakulla
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia - Rockville, MD
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team, Lender in MD DC VA

Yes Gary is my dad.  I remember as a kid spending time in Severna Park MANY years ago!!  There are now a lot of Pakulla's in real estate.

I hope there will be some more good news about the condos released in the next month, but I think a lot will have problems, especially if they have smaller mangement companies that aren't necessarily aware of the issues.

Oct 28, 2010 02:34 AM
David Zuckerman
Millennial Home Loans, LLC - Sykesville, MD
Mortgage Broker - Low-to-no downpayment mortgages

Nick great post.  Knock on wood condo's aren't my niche or I'd be stressing.  Coupled with lender overlays requiring condo questionaires on all projects - FHA approved or not - something has to give or its going to go from bad to worse for some condo developments. 

Nov 10, 2010 12:02 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous

I am stressing since most of the condos were approved prior to 2000. I cannot believe they have not issued some type of extension in this environment.

Nov 22, 2010 06:16 PM
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Bob Hertzog
Summit Home Consultants - Phoenix, AZ
Designated Broker

Wow, this is great information, and I wish I would have seen it sooner.  I have a condo listing that is supposed to close escrow on December 15th.  Today, I received a call from the buyer's loan officer, asking if the HOA on our particular complex had renewed their certification.  Of course, they haven't done it, but are "working on it".  It would be a bummer to have this short sale turn into a foreclosure because the HOA didn't do their job, especially since it was announced in November/2009!

I would hope that they would extend this deadline, especially with the way things are going in the market already. I'm suggesting that this post get featured, as many Realtors® probably don't know about it.

Thanks again for sharing Nick!

Nov 30, 2010 07:47 AM
Nick Pakulla
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia - Rockville, MD
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team, Lender in MD DC VA

Bob - no problem!  As far as I know some lenders have already cut off FHA condos with the December 7th date, others just require the case-number to be issued prior to 12/7 (so you may still be ok).  Thanks for the suggestion!  Best of luck with your listing!

Nov 30, 2010 08:02 AM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

You know this is a really great post that I am suggesting and re-blogging.  Thank you very much for the information.

Dec 01, 2010 07:09 AM
Tina Maraj
RE/MAX One - Fullerton, CA
Celebrating 30 Years of Real Estate Sales

Great info Nick, I have written similar posts for my area about this situation. I believe that it will delay many first time home buyers this winter.

Dec 06, 2010 04:53 PM
Nick Pakulla
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team Maryland, Virginia, District of Columbia - Rockville, MD
Nick Pakulla Mortgage Team, Lender in MD DC VA

Gene - thank you!  We have officially reached 12/7, and it appears nothing different on the FHA condo lookup website.  We'll see what tomorrow brings!

Tina - this will have a big impact, especially in areas where condos are popular!  I think a little bit for sellers who are in a price range to attract FHA buyers

Dec 07, 2010 01:54 AM