My current pet peeve:

As some of you know my team has been holding a large number of bank repo open houses mostly in the Folsom California market. The potential clients who come to these open houses are looking for a great deal (bargain). Sometimes the banks are realistic and sometimes not.

Until just recently the banks were asking entirely too much, just like many home sellers. I was under the opinion that the problem was starting with the agent who has done the BPO (Broker Price Opinion). These agents seemed to be pricing the homes way too high, and in my estimation, effectively buying the listing, just as some agents do to get their sign in the yard with normal home sellers. As I said that is what I thought, but after some dialog with highly experienced agents I have come to realize that in spite of the fact that the BPO agent and an independent appraiser have given their opinion the bank or the intermediary has over-ruled their recommendation and tells the listing agent what they want the price to be. Normally they reduce prices every 30 days, chasing the market down. Just what we tell sellers not to do. The bankers are apparently smarter than us though.

Many of these REO (Real Estate Owned) agents don't even physically go look at their listings and have the audacity to take it personal when a client makes what they deem as a low ball offer. Our team has made a number of offers for clients who really want to buy and have the ability to purchase. Some of these potential buyers are in fact offering too little, but they have to take on all of the risk. The bank repositions are pretty much all "as-is". Many of the homes are truly wrecked. As people are being forced out of their homes they don't necessarily take good care of what they are about to loose

It appears the solution is that the banks need to rely on who they hire in the local market and value their experience and their price recommendations. If that were to happen we can all sell more properties for a fair price and the public can get a "good deal".

 
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11 Comments on REO properties and unrealistic offers/prices

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06
2007
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Good post.............Duane Hosek in the Black Hills of South Dakota
1:00am • #1
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I've only made offers on two REOs, but my experience is exactly as you describe. The selling agents are totally frustrated because they know the properties are over priced. But the banks remain hard-line on price because their only interest is recovering their loss on the defaulted mortgage. Both transactions went no where.
1:06am • #2
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I think it will change, as things do.  The banks are going to get a rude awakening when the houses don't sell and they stop getting offers all together.  Understandable they want their money, but they have to take a loss too if the market is down.  How else can it work?
1:21am • #3

I just closed an escrow on an REO in South Lake Tahoe, owned by US Bank.  There were 5 other offers that offered way over the price but had no great terms.  It just so happened that the buyers I worked with offered exactly what the bank asked for and offered a 7 day COE and proof of their offer was their bank statement with a ton of cash in it, they waived inspections due to the fact that they were in the trade.  I guess the bank in this case didn't care about a high price, they wanted a strong buyer, and it seems like most buyers need loans and have a lot of contingencies.

 Maybe banks would be softer on the price if the terms were attractive to them?

 P.S. What gives me heartburn is why do banks get to control where the escrow & title is held when it is buyers choice.  What happened to RESPA?  Hello?

1:28am • #4
In my humble opinion, he with the cash speaks the loudest and is the best judge of the price he wants to pay.  If they don't like it they get to keep it.  At some point in time they will begin to listen.
1:35am • #5
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I list a lot of REO properties and also get really frustrated with the pricing issues.

Usually the noteholder has 2 BPO's and an appraisal before listing, but they still price above the highest to start. I have one now I BPO'd at $220K back in April. The appraisal was $259K. The initial list was $284K.

We've had a price reduction every month since then.

Last week the lender finally dropped the list to $225K, which was my initial recommendation back in April. Of course, it's now a four month old listing.

5:24am • #6

Carol,

I can't agree more with the RESPA issue. I have an offer in right now on a short sale where the listing agent is trying to control the escrow company. I made reference to the RESPA issue and I told her I would be glad to send her a link and she got a little huffy stating I could send what ever I liked but she wanted the escrow to stay where it is " already OPEN". She clearly has never been told about it. I believe that will be my next blog topic.

Thanks for your input.

9:12pm • #7
Fred - Thanks for your input. These banks are making pretty difficult for us to do our jobs.
9:13pm • #8
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16
2007
Appraisers and BPO agents need to get on the same page, this is a big problem with my 11 short sales. My new plan is to actually talk with the BPO agent by making them set up an appointment to get inside. That way I can tell them what we are tring to do and ask if he would like some comps to help him in the process. Seems like bpo agents are bringing the values at the highest they can instead of looking at it thought the eyes of a buyer in this market. 
3:33pm • #9
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27
2007

Carol,

I just completed another purchase agreement with the bank being Chase. Their addendum stated all rights were removed as far as selecting the title company. I believe no one has yet challenged them on this RESPA issue or the language written into the contract absolves them from the requirement. I wouldn't mind being the first case. This really pisses me off.

11:49pm • #10
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29
2007

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