Spider Web of Title CompaniesJust like the spider (isn't that the biggest spider who've ever seen?) waiting for its prey...I learned something today that is happening in Southern CA and may reach our area.

Don't be caught unaware...just in case your Realtor is not familiar with this new practice...

 

Here in the Sacramento and surrounding areas we have Title Companies to handle our Escrow when a house sells. That's where you typically go to sign all the papers on your house that you are selling and when buying a home.

In Southern CA, there are two separate entities...Escrow Companies and Title Companies. And therefore seems to me to be twice the cost associated with closing on a house.  That's not what this article is all about but I couldn't help but comment on double spending in Southern CA. Well, that's not the worst of it...

A fellow friend and Realtor in San Diego, Roberta Murphy of Luxury Home Digest recently helped a Home Buyer who decided to back out of the contract.  The Home Buyer backed out during the disclosure period. All well and good, one would think...not so in this case.

Apparently, the Escrow Company decided to exercise their right to assess the Home Buyer $1,115 due to the cancellation of escrow. They assert that this is their cost and they have a right to impose it upon the Home Buyer for cancelling.

For further reading go to Sacramento Real Estate Voice.

 

Bookmark this article:
Add 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to Del.icio.usAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to diggAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to FURLAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to redditAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to TechnoratiAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to Yahoo My WebAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to NewsvineAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to Stumble UponAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to Google BookmarksAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to SquidooAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to SpurlAdd 'Things are A Changing in the Real Estate World' to Co.mments

 

19 Comments on Protect Your Home Buyer

SEP
06
2007
1 Featured Post
Great blog.
9:20am • #1
Ouch, not sure what there legal remedies are.  If it was in the escrow contract, then buyer beware for the next time, and shame on the agent who ddn't know it would cost their client, it they knew of course!
9:31am • #2
1 Featured Post Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
I hope the client doesn't pay them and I can't see how the escrow co could collect this anyway.  They can threaten all they want.  They may have "the right" to impose it, but the buyer may have the right NOT to pay it.
9:46am • #3
134,475 Points 46 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Thanks for spreading the word, Gena. I wonder if any escrow, title or settlement companies will weigh in? 
9:49am • #4
201,151 Points 3 Featured Posts Outside Blog
WOW, and if it's happen in southern CA then it's bound to happen in "Eastern California" AKA Las Vegas. Great information Gena....I'm calling a couple of escrow/title companies here today and see what they've heard or know about this.
10:04am • #5
130,211 Points Outside Blog
Here is Florida the title company can hold the escrow. I have a hand full of companies I generally deal with and they are all wonderful. When somebody in the office mentions something negative I immediately take note and tell my buyer/seller (which ever I may have) that I do not recommend that company. Simple as that. We always act as single agent for our client and want them to get the best deal possible!!!
10:18am • #6

"shame on the agent who ddn't know it would cost their client, it they knew of course!"

You can't blame the agent in this case. Almost all escrow companies in the area have similar wording in their docs; it is just something that is rarely enforced. It happened to me several years ago with a CB owned escrow company. This escrow company is owned by Prudential California Realty and is just another way to generate income. I'll bet that they don't tend to charge this fee to Pru buyers though.

The problem is that there was no way to see it coming. The easiest solution is a to not sign escrow instructions until the contingencies are removed, are tell escrow that they won't sign escrow instructions that contain that clause. If this buyer hasn't yet signed those instructions, then escrow will have little recourse. I also doubt that a judge, even a small claims judge, would be sympathetic towards the escrow company where the buyer is completely unaware of the risk.

4:03pm • #7
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Oliver, thanks. Interesting, isn't it?

Christopher, although every single escrow and title company has the right to do this, I have never seen it done. So, to blame the Realtor I don't think is appropriate. We have not seen this done. Most Ttile companies want the business and this is a sure fire way to make sure that you NEVER get the business from the Realtor who client was just "screwed."

Debbie, I have no idea if you're right or not. However, it's important that all of us be aware of this and figure out a way to protect our clients. Whether it is handwriting it on to page 8 of 8 of the Purchase Contract or some other way...we need to make sure that our Buyers are not at the whim of the Title and Escrow Companies.

Roberta, doesn't look like any of them are stepping up. I spoke to my own Title Company (Sacramento, Placer and El Dorado Counties-have Title Companies that are both Escrow and Title), and was told that the only time they have ever billed based on a cancellation of contract is with a FSBO. As my Title Officer said, " we are in the business to get business not turn business away." As she very succinctly put it, Realtors lose out when there is a cancellation, as well but they don't get anything for their time so why should we?

Mary, as far as I know this is a right that they have to do this but don't exercise that right. We just need to be cognizant of this and make sure that our clients won't be the first to have this happen. What we need to figure out where to write the verbiage since the Purchase Contract is not between the Escrow/Title Company but the Seller. We need to brain storm.

 

 

5:11pm • #8

Gena,

In Indiana & Illinois the title companies close the transaction and do not charge the seller/buyer anything for cancellation even though the title company produced a title policy prior to closing for the seller and the buyer.

5:13pm • #9
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Bill and Barbara,we all do but the point here is that although this has not been something that we have seen in the past, it is obvious that some are opting to excerise this right. Having this happen to even 1 Buyer is 1 too many so it's best that all of us figure out a way to make sure that we protect our clients from here on out as it comes to any possible cancellation.

Bob,no the agent didn't know.  Funny that you mention that they escrow company is owned by Prudential since they are the same ones in the example...hmmmmmm Not sure you are right about the Buyer not being liable. Again, I stress that we really need to investigate this much more for a better understanding of helping the client. In this case, since the cancellation was during the disclosure period, escrow instructions were not signed. And in the case of my Title officer stating that the only time they have charged is on FSBO cancellations. Again, escrow instructions are not signed. We need to rethink our strategy.

Remember, it is not only a hard time for Realtors, Home Inspectors, Pest Companies, Appraisers etc...it's also rough for the Title and Escrow Companies and it looks like some may be finding a new revenue source.

5:19pm • #10
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Chuck, that's how it is here in the Tri County area but remember, although we have not seen it doesn't mean that is going to remain as it has. We need to think this thing through and make sure that as a protection to our clients, if Title Companies decide to exercise their right we have protected our clients.
5:22pm • #11

I ran this by two contract law attorneys today and their opinions were that the buyer is not liable until they sign the instructions. The agent could be liable though if they approved the instructions with the cancellation clause that escrow sent out to both listing and selling agent, which is customary in this area. 

If I'm the buyer, I'm looking at taking escrow and both agents to small claims.

11:05pm • #12
SEP
07
2007
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Bob, thanks for looking into that. In our area, escrow instructions are not signed until the actual signing occurs. Our Title Co. and Escrow Co. are one in the same. The Title officer told me that she has billed FSBO's in the past who cancelled. Since, escrow instructions are not signed until the end at the actual signing, I am wondering how this is happening. 

I will pass your information on to Roberta who had the incident happen in Southern CA with Prudential Escrow Co. Thank you for taking the time to check with the attorneys in your area.

10:13am • #13
SEP
08
2007
100,315 Points 20 Featured Posts
I have never had an escrow company charge more then $400 for cancelling an escrow and usually there is no fee..
10:47am • #14
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Kaye, I have NEVER had them charge and if I did they would never see the likes of me again. Hope this isn't something that will continue to grow...hopefully it's just a prudential thing.
9:20pm • #15
SEP
11
2007

Ooooh... As an agent I would feel terrible about my client having to pay! I have not heard of that happening here in Daytona Beach, FL.

As Bill and Barbarb mentioned, Florida title companies hold escrow or an attorney holds escrow money in their trust account here in Florida. I've not heard of a seller getting charged for cancellation of escrow whether they defaulted or not.

7:37pm • #16
SEP
12
2007
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Janis, Marty and Mike, it was a Buyer that this happened to and the client backed out during the disclosure period. Interesting if Title/Escrow Companies start using this as a revenue source...not sure how that would work with your attorneys. All I know is that I don't want that to surprise any of my Buyers.
9:04pm • #17
SEP
14
2007
271,168 Points 16 Featured Posts Outside Blog
Sounds like they are taking a shot at a quick cash grab. If this starts to be a trend, the backlash to those escrow companies is going to be big. As an agent, why would you use one with a history of sticking buyers with fees? -Charles
8:18pm • #18
SEP
15
2007
237,716 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Charles, absolutely. I wouldn't think it would be in their best interest either. They may want to rethink revenue builders, again. Thanks for popping by.
10:04am • #19

This blog does not allow anonymous comments

 
Rainmaker_large

Gena Riede, Real Estate Broker Sacramento CA Real Estate (916) 417-2699

Sacramento, CA

More about me…

Riede Real Estate, Lic. 01310792

Address: Elk Grove, Fair Oaks, Carmichael, Roseville,, Sacramento, Folsom, Elk Grove, CA, 95825

Office Phone: (916) 417-2699

Email Me



Links

Archives

RSS 2.0 Feed for this blog

Find CA real estate agents and Sacramento real estate on ActiveRain.