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HOMEOWNER WITH DEMENTIA WANTS TO SELL HIS HOME. WHAT WOULD YOU DO?

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Real Estate Agent with Samson Properties SP98364271

I was just curious to find out. As real estate professionals,our clients come from all different areas with all having different issues. So I was just curious. Say for instance,a married couple needs you to help them sell their home. Problem: Only the husband's name is on the deed and the wife's name is not. And the husband is the one who has dementia. What do you do? Active Rain members,I need your help and advice on this one. What will you do?

 

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Ilyce N. Powell
Financial Revitalize - Baltimore, MD
CMPS- Certified Mortgage Planning Specialist
Hi Lanre - You might want to consider the severity of his dementia. Also, to be safe, I'd seek out legal advice on this one. You don't want to be placed in a position of having a contract that wasn't legally signed.
Sep 06, 2007 02:53 PM
Lanre-"THE REAL ESTATE FARMER" Folayan
Samson Properties - Bowie, MD
I don't make promises.I deliver results.SOLD HOMES
Hello Ilyce. Thank you very,very much. I am not in that position right now but I guess I am preparing myself for it just in case it happens because you never know. And I know my broker said something about it one time but I forgot to ask him what he will do. Thanks again Ilyce.
Sep 06, 2007 02:58 PM
Pam Hofmann
Third Tennessee Realty & Associates, LLC - Crossville, TN
Your Crossville, Lake Tansi & Fairfield Glade Specialist
Lanre, I agree that you really need to refer these folks to an attorney to get a power of attorney for the wife, I think IMHO ;-)
Sep 06, 2007 02:59 PM
Lanre-"THE REAL ESTATE FARMER" Folayan
Samson Properties - Bowie, MD
I don't make promises.I deliver results.SOLD HOMES
Pam- Thank you very much. I really appreciate your respond to my blog.
Sep 06, 2007 03:11 PM
Carol Butler
50Cabins.com - South Lake Tahoe, CA

Definitely you'll need an executor of their trust or someone who has power of attorney.  I think you'd be spinning your wheels or you'd be in big fat trouble if you didn't get use intercessor.  You don't want to be accused of taking advantage of someone not of sound mind.

 

Sep 06, 2007 03:47 PM
Yolanda Hoversten
Self Employed - O'Fallon, IL
Referrals for O’Fallon, IL & the Metro East
Lanre, normally local boards will have a real estate attorney that oversees the board's legal matters.  Seems like your broker should help you to find the answers, and talk to your board lawyer.  In any case, this is something that you wouldn't want to be tangled in.  Others before me recommended power of atty and the spouse (not you) should explore that.  Good luck!
Sep 06, 2007 04:36 PM
Vicente A. Martinez
Prudential Douglas Elliman Licensed Real Estate Salesperson - Woodhaven, NY
Realtor, Brooklyn - Long Island - Queens Homes
Assuming the property is priced to sell, it's a full term agreement, full commission and it's a listing I want to take - I would have a friend, family member, or trustee of the client get power of attorney (the client needs to be in his right mind or the listing is null and void). Otherwise, I'd move on to a listing that I want to take and meets all of my criteria.
Sep 06, 2007 05:06 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital
My family just faced this possibility with my dad.  We got an attorney, and it would have been awfully complicated had my mother wanted to sell the house.  If the guy is moderately loopy and it's intermittent, it might not be as bad, but I'd have an attorney make that call.
Sep 07, 2007 02:43 AM
Allison Stewart
St.Cloud Homes - Saint Cloud, FL
St. Cloud Fl Realtor, Osceola County Real Estate 407-616-9904

Because they are married the Property is held in Tenancy by the Entireties. This is joint tenancy between husband and wife with the right of survuvorship.  The deed or other instrument of conveyance does NOT have to state expressly that a tenancy by the entireties exists. If the parties are truly husband and wife, the estate is implied. (In Florida at least)   A durable Power of Attorney should be executed when he is coherent.  An Attorney should be hired to construct that document.

However, in order to enter into a valid contract, the parties must:

  1. Have Contractual capacity (competent parties)  A client with Demenia does not have contractual capacity it would be argued.
  2. Offer and Acceptance
  3. Legality of object
  4. Must be in Writing & Signed
  5. Consideration must be made

Note: Ways an Offer is Terminated

Insanity is a viable way in the state of Florida, along with withdrawl, laspse of time, Death, a Counter Offer, Acceptance, Rejection or Destruction of the Property.

This is a hypothectic question but the unanimous answer is seek competant legal advise.

Sep 07, 2007 03:21 AM
Thesa Chambers
West + Main - Bend, OR
Principal Broker - Licensed in Oregon
In most states a contract signed by someone that is not of sound mind or mentally aware is voidable - If this comes up - I would suggest checking if there is a conservator a guardian or if some one has power of attorney
Sep 07, 2007 07:13 AM
Stella Barbour
NoVa Brokers LLC - Vienna, VA
Principal Broker, Serving Virginia and Maryland

It would be difficult to get a power of attorney if he is not competent now because the POA would have to be signed by him and notarized.  Also a General POA cannot be used for Real Estate transactions in some states.  A Specific Power of Attorney provided by an Attorney, Settlement Attorney or Title Company may be what you would need.  I am in Virginia and that is how it is done here.  I worked with a client w/dementia but I was working with his Guardian w/court approval to sell the home.  It is very complicated but I am also a paralegal and knew what steps to take.  If he is competent at certain times, but is not at other times, then maybe talk to an attorney about preparing a Quit Claim Deed to give all interest to the other party (if this doesn't cause other issues, always check with an attorney for tax issues also).  Contract is only voidable if someone is going to bring up the issue.  If there are any parties that feel they have an interest or a concern with the party that is selling the property, then it is better to seek legal advice before making any decisions.  I am not an attorney and I am not giving legal advice, just simply suggestions.

Sep 07, 2007 07:51 AM
Lanre-"THE REAL ESTATE FARMER" Folayan
Samson Properties - Bowie, MD
I don't make promises.I deliver results.SOLD HOMES

Carol - I didn't know that you will need an executor of their trust who has power of attorney. Thank you very much.

Yolanda - I didn't know local boards have a real estate attorney that oversees the board legal matters. Thank you very much for that info.

Vincent - You are absolutely right. Like Ilyce told me,you want to know the severity of the dementia. Thank you very much.

Patricia-Thank you,Thank you. Very sorry to hear about your dad's condition.

Allison -Thank you very much. It sounds like you have dealt with this issue before with one of your clients.

Thesa-You are absolutely right. Contract signed by someone not of sound mind or mentally aware is voidable.

Stella - I didn't know that it would be difficult to get a power of attorney if he is not competent now.

 

Thank you all for your comments. I am beyond grateful and thankful to blog with such caring,creative and intelligent people. Thanks a many.

 

Sep 07, 2007 10:07 AM