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Condo Expiration Date fast approaching! December 12/7/2010 for FHA approved condos

Reblogger Bob Hertzog
Real Estate Broker/Owner with Summit Home Consultants

Wow, this is great information, and I wish I would have seen it sooner.  I have a condo listing that is supposed to close escrow on December 15th.  Today, I received a call from the buyer's loan officer, asking if the HOA on our particular complex had renewed their certification.  Of course, they haven't done it, but are "working on it".  It would be a bummer to have this short sale turn into a foreclosure because the HOA didn't do their job, especially since it was announced in November/2009!

I would hope that they would extend this deadline, especially with the way things are going in the market already. I'm suggesting that this post get featured, as many Realtors® probably don't know about it.

Thanks again for sharing Nick!

Original content by Nick Pakulla NMLS#: 728211


Last year FHA announced that they will be beginning a condo recertification process for condos that were approved prior to October 1, 2008, requiring that they are re-approved on or before December 7, 2010.  Well its hard to believe, but December 7th is almost here, and there are very few condos that have been re-approved.  Welcome "Condo Judgment Day!" 

From FHA: "New FHA case numbers will not be assigned for those projects where the project approval has expired and the project has not been recertified or reapproved prior to the project expiration date."  This was all initially announced in the FHA mortgagee letter issued November 6th 2009-46 B
Bottom line, No case numbers = NO FHA loans!

 Fha condo approval                     fha home ownership

My understanding is that the approval process can take 30-45 days.  45 days from now is past 12/7/10!  I expect FHA will become more busy as more people become aware of the issue.

This is of major concern to both people looking to buy condos and Realtors who have condos as current listings (or plan to have any in the foreseeable future) not to mention the impact to the affected condo owners with respect to property values. 

See for yourself:

I'm going to use Maryland and zip code 21044 as an example.  Out of the 33 records, currently only 2 of them will be approved for new case numbers on 12/7/2010!  This in turn means NO FHA buyers will be approved on ANY of the 31 other condos.

What to do?

First, the whole condo approval process is time consuming and it is not clear who is responsible for it.  There are a number of at risk parties who would all like the process to be completed, this includes: owners, Realtors, lenders, buyers, HOA's, etc.  My understanding is a lot of the lenders are not comfortable making certifications for such things as:

"the Lender has no knowledge of circumstances or conditions that might have an adverse effect on the project or cause a mortgage secured by a unit in the project to become delinquent (including but not limited to: defects in construction; substantial disputes or dissatisfaction among unit owners about the operation of the project or the owner's association; and disputes concerning unit owners; rights privileges, and obligations")

The lender is supposed certifying about defects in construction and dissatisfaction among unit owners?  Seriously?  But I have heard (yet to see a list) that some lenders to have departments that handle condo approvals.

Potentially the easiest would be to encourage owners to get their HOA's / Management Companies to take care of it as they have access to a majority of the required items.  The good news is that some projects only require a recertification, while others require a new full approval.  In the case of a full approval there will likely be attorney fees or other related fees with obtaining some or all of the information.   

  1. If project initially approved on or after January 1, 2000, then the project is eligible for the recertification process.
  2. If project initially approved prior to January 1, 2000, full project approval is required.
    • For full approval see mortgagee letter issued November 6th 2009-46 B
    • You can find FHA's FAQ at http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/condo/faqs_condo.pdf 
    • According to the FAQ, HRAP processing can be done by a Lender, Developer, HOA or their authorized representative and should submit the request to the appropriate HOC.

FHA Homeownership Centers by State http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/hoc/hsghocs.cfm

The good news is that FHA does have a phone number with seemingly knowledgeable staff who may be able to help out (800) CALL-FHA or (800) 225-5342.  If anyone has any more information or insight I would be glad to hear, maybe I am jumping the gun and some new guidance will come out from FHA on how to deal with this issue, I sure hope so...

 

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Comments(3)

Ginny Gorman
RI Real Estate Services ~ 401-529-7849~ RI Waterfront Real Estate - North Kingstown, RI
Homes for Sale in Southern RI and beyond

Bob, this is a great re-blog & i think most realtors have forgotten about this time line..thanks

Nov 30, 2010 09:12 AM
Bob Hertzog
Summit Home Consultants - Phoenix, AZ
Designated Broker

Now that is a funny picture!  Thanks again for stopping by Ginny.  I thought it was important to share as well.  I wish AR would feature his post, as I think it could help some people out.

Nov 30, 2010 03:58 PM
Bill Gassett
RE/MAX Executive Realty - Hopkinton, MA
Metrowest Massachusetts Real Estate

Great information to provide Bob. It is good that you are being proactive. There is nothing worse than getting news after it is too late!

Dec 01, 2010 12:21 AM