As the mother of two active teenagers, safety is high priority in my home. That is why as a Realtor, I am confounded and concerned, when I visit a home with the smoke alarms disabled or removed.In Minnesota, our furnaces are running from September to May and fireplaces too. Fire safety is essential. I just don't understand the logic of removing batteries or unplugging hard-wired safety devices. At least I didn't understand until I lived with a set of defective alarms for several months on end.

 It all started last November shortly after we installed new batteries at daylight savings. A few evenings later about 3A.M. we were awoken by the smoke alarm going off in the kitchen on the main level of our two-story Ham Lake house. By the time we got downstairs, the alarm had stopped. It had not triggered the other six alarms that are hardwired throughout our home. We figured that since we had just turned on our forced air furnace that week, maybe dust was the cause. We will get one or two false alarms every autumn when we start up the heat so we head back to bed unconcerned.

Around Christmas, the alarms started to go off about once a week in the middle of the night...Yeah always the middle of the night. I was beginning to understand why I would see alarms with removed batteries in listings throughout the Twin Cities, as this was annoying and sleep depriving!

I did a bit of online research. Smoke detectors should be vacuumed periodically as dust and tiny spiders can cause malfunction and false alarms. It was also noted that smoke alarms should be replaced every ten years. We opted for the cleaning route and vacuumed all seven alarms the next morning.

In March we contacted our electrician about having seven new Firex alarms installed. We were assured that these top of the line detectors would eliminate the problems. A few weeks later, we with $400 less in the checkbook we were positive it would be worth the price for a good night's sleep. The electrician's truck had not made it down the road before the next set of chirps began.

This was the first of several visits from the electrician to our Anoka County home. He returned the next week to verify there were no loose wires. He also replaced the unit in the hallway that seemed to make the most noise. Again, within an hour there was a chirp, chirp, chirp. Now, I have an upset electrician along with a tired and upset family.

I did a Google search and ended up at the Firex website. The company has a frequently asked question page that is a wealth of information. What a great resource. Newer alarms must be reset after the batteries are installed. To reset the alarm, you need to depress the test button for 15 seconds with the battery removed. Great! Problem solved! A good night's sleep is ahead.

Wrong! About 12 hours later, it started again. Back to the list of options from the Firex site. We called the electrician back to put all of the alarms on one circuit so we could shut off the alarms and be certain that poor wiring in another part of the home wasn't setting off the alarm. One more tense visit from the electrician and we were now on our own with the noisy, frustrating problem.

tikkiAfter months of this noisy protection of malfunctioning alarms, we found you can learn to sleep through the noise but never really get used to it. The four periodic chirps were nerve grating to say the least. On the first chirp our neurotic geriatric dog would get up and move closer to the nearest person. On the second chirp he would try sit as close as he possibly could and stare with big sad eyes. The third chirp would cause him to shutter and with the final chirp he would lay down at your feet shaking.

Finally in August we had enough and were ready to disable all of the hardwired smoke alarms in our home and install battery operated ones. I now understood the decision made by so many others to put a good nights sleep over fire protection.

Before we cut the wires, we tried one more time to resolve the issue. We took down all seven alarms, reset them and installed seven new batteries. One of the smoke alarms would sound as soon as the battery was installed. Bingo! We had the problem unit in hand. So we installed the six good alarms and waited.

Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! Finally I resorted to calling the 800 number for Firex technical support. They were very concerned about our wanting to remove these safety products from our home that were designed for our protection, not annoyance. They offered to replace the defective alarm and sent out a new one via overnight mail. But the technician did not stop there. He wanted to help us resolve the continuing problem. The tech asked if there could be anything else that would cause a noise. Check the attic and check for Carbon Monoxide detectors. The sound of a plugged in CO2 detector can travel echo through the house and sound like it is coming from the smoke detector. We had checked the attic previously but did not check the carbon monoxide detector as we they are electric not battery operated.

Of course I had forgotten that we now had two CO2 detectors. The newest one was installed in the hallway near our bedrooms. After a quick check I realized that the new model DID have a battery backup. It was the source of many of the annoying chirps. So lesson learned. Change the batteries in your CO2 detectors right along with the smoke detectors. Not certain if your carbon dioxide detector has a battery backup? Check it now. It could mean a good night's sleep in your future.

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25 Comments on Chirp! Chirp! Chirp! Can ANYONE Make that Smoke Detector STOP Chirping?

Teri,  What a story.  It does show that persistence does pay off.  I am sure that you have communicated this with all of your past customers and the various subdivisions that your farm.  And now, you can rest assured that your family is safe and you can get a good nights sleep.

09/10/2007 09:41 AM by Jim Hogan - Atlanta Loan Source (The Loan Source)


Thanks for the tip. I just changed the batteries on the CO2 detector. They did not look like batteries. They had been in there so long.

09/10/2007 09:44 AM by Christopher Onwuasoanya (Merrill Lynch)


Teri, My wife and I had a memorable fire alarm incident, It was the second night of our honeymoon, first night of the trip, we were staying at a beautiful Marriot Suites a few miles outside of Yosemite, and seeping soundly, at about 3:30 am. All hell breaks loose! beeping, wailing, spinning red lights, flashing strobes. And ten or fifteen bleary-eyed, bed-headed new husbands standing half in the hallway looking for smoke. It looked to me like the whole floor was newlyweds. We all just looked at each other standing around in our skivvies, shrugged, and went back inside. After a minute or so everything went quiet again, and luckily stayed that way for the rest of the night. I think we got a breakfast basket or something for the trouble, but the wake up is something none of us will likely forget.

On a more serious note, those CO2 sensors are just as important as the fire detectors. CO2 will kill you just as dead, and less likely to be noticed happening.

Thanks for the post!

09/10/2007 09:55 AM by Michael I. Pulskamp REALTOR®, EcoBroker® (Mainstreet Brokers)


Teri you poor thing. I don't know how you functioned with no sleep. Great post and information for everyone. Thank you.

09/10/2007 10:14 AM by Camarillo CA Real Estate Agent/ Mana Tulberg (Beach View Real Estate)


Teri we had a similiar situation and it was the Carbon Monoxide detector in the basement. Drove me crazy.

09/10/2007 10:27 AM by Missy Caulk Ann Arbor Realtor Ann Arbor Real Estate (Keller Williams Ann Arbor)


Isn't that kooky how these things randomly go off with a chirp in the night to scare the devil out of you? Then you fall back asleep vowing to take a look into it in the morning. Then you forget about it till it wakes you up again the next night. We never seem to keep this type of battery on hand so it means there is a run to the store involved. The hard part is figuring out which one it is that chirped!

09/10/2007 10:45 AM by Lizette Fitzpatrick, Lexington KY Real Estate (Central Kentucky - Prudential Don Foster - Richmond KY)


Next time you have a malfunctioning smoke alarm, try this... a hammer!  It works great at 2am.

09/10/2007 10:54 AM by David Slavin, ABR, SRES RE/MAX Grand, Katy, TX (RE/MAX Grand)


Jim--We really didn't want to disable them...Not a wise decision.

Christopher--If the batteries looked that bad, I would have replace the whole unit on a CO2 detector...Our first one doesn't have a battery backup as it is well over 10 years old. I have to look into how often you replace C02 detectors...I think it is every 5 years.

Michael--That is a honeymoon moment that no one will ever forget for certain!! Makes our story look tame.

Mana--By the time we figure it out the dang thing, was going off morning noon and night about once every few hours. And the first week, I was conditioned to wake up at 3 or 4 am....Now sleeping properly thank you! :)

 

09/10/2007 11:11 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


Missy-- It is enough to drive you batty...our poor dog really was going crazy as it affected him the most.

Lizette--We did look into it but couldn't resolve the trouble as we were certain it was the smoke alarm...Didn't think the CO2 detector had a battery. We felt pretty stupid when we figured it out...in our defense there was a defective smoke alarm too! :)

David--That is my point...At listing appointments I have noticed sellers take drastic measures to stop the noise but don't make the repairs. Scary!

09/10/2007 11:17 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


That is the kind of thing that would get me out of bed and not get back to sleep. I'll be checking batteries with this reminder. Thanks!

09/10/2007 12:03 PM by Celeste "SALLY" Cheeseman (RA), e-PRO HAWAII Real Estate & HAWAII Relocation (Century 21 Liberty Homes -Mililani, Hawaii)


Teri.... Some folks just cannot hear that sound.... I had a condo listed and the sellers were in their early 80's -  that chirp was there at every showing, the inspection and the final walk thru.

09/10/2007 12:08 PM by Dan Cummings - Connecticut's Running Realtor (Raveis Real Estate)


Teri, there are two other modifications in the home that will eliminate most false alarms, at least with the smoke detectors.  DO NOT USE plug in air fresheners anywhere in the home.  The particulates they produce have a cumulative effect on the sensors and will eventually necessitate a cleaning rather than the simple routine vacuum.  Next remedy is a baffle, placed between the cutout and the detector itself.  This will keep most spiders, ants, insulation, dust, etc., from being able to pile up on the sensor.  The units themselves are fairly simple considering they've probably saved thousands of lives.    

09/10/2007 01:39 PM by Kevin J. May Naples, FL Southwest Florida Real Estate (Prudential Florida Realty)


Teri, What an ordeal!  That chirping can drive anyone nuts and I have so many smoke detectors in my home I would have never related it to the CO2 detector.  Thank you for all this information, I'm glad your problem is resolved and hope to now be able to avoid one!

09/10/2007 01:43 PM by Carole Provenzale Owner, Feng Shui Long Island & New York (Feng Shui Long Island & New York City)


Teri - I have been told by a firefighter that a hard wired alarm too close to a ceiling fan can also cause problems - the detectors are looking for what they call "heavy" air and when the fans spin and the dust goes near the detector, that can cause the same detection - plus a detector near a fan will have more dust build up then one farther away.  He told me that detectors near ceiling fans should be vacuumed out pretty frequently to help & the fan too. 

09/10/2007 02:09 PM by Steve Scheer - Denver Real Estate - Highlands Ranch Real Estate (RE/MAX Masters, Inc.)


Teri what a long ordeal. At least you got it taken care of. To think your CO2 detectors needed to be checked and had been overlooked when you where being so diligent with the smoke detectors. Those things can drive you batty.

09/10/2007 06:33 PM by Albuquerque Real Estate | Ashley Drake Gephart (Keller Williams Realty)


Teri,

Had to comment here. One of my former agents had problems with hers chirping one night in her condo. She couldn't get it to stop after tearing it apart so she slept on the hard bathroom floor with the door closed  that night. Next morning she realized it was her beeper in her car in the garage downstairs. Oh well.

 

09/10/2007 08:28 PM by Orange Co. Real Estate~Lynda Eisenmann, Broker-Owner, CRS,CRB,GRI,SRES, Brea, CA (Preferred Home Brokers)


Teri - Hopefully this post will help another Ham Lake family not have to go through what you and your family did. How dreadful an experience; at least , nowm, you have everything working in top order.

09/10/2007 10:02 PM by Indianapolis Real Estate | Paula Henry (ReMax Excel)


Great information Teri!  Now I know exactly what to do in the event of a chirp-chirp-chirp...even if I am not in MN ;)

09/10/2007 10:09 PM by Your Tampa Bay Mortgage Source


Sally--Don't forget your CO2 detector if you have one! :)

Dan--I don't know how they couldn't hear it. But then our smoke alarm and the CO2 detector that was making the noise was located in the two-story entry hallway that we refer to as the "echo chamber" as it seems to increase the volume of every little noise.

Kevin--These are great tips...We use plug-ins all of the time as we don't like candles for safety reasons. I wonder if that caused the first trouble. Thanks for the ideas.

Carole--Glad to know that we arent the only ones who would have overlooked the CO2 detector. You are welcome. :)

Steve--This is another interesting tip that makes sense. We do have ceiling fans near 3 of the smoke detectors. Good information....Thanks!

09/11/2007 07:53 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


Ashley--It is an electrical CO2 detector so we would have been protected and the sound is definitely loud enough to awake us in an emergency as Carbon Monoxide is a very dangerous and real concern in MN homes...especially in the winter.

Lynda--Now that is funny...Probably not to your friend though.

Paula--Thanks!! I hope that everyone with a smoke detector and CO2 detector will take the time to change the batteries correctly to avoid a noisy problem rather than disable thinking it is a malfunction.

Leah--Those smoke detectors chirp all over the US I am sure!

09/11/2007 08:00 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


What a story Teri!  I got a phone call once from a short term tenant whose CO2 alarm was going off at 2am.  They called the fire department too!  Just a defective alarm, as it turned out.  Our smoke alarm that beeps most often is the one in the top of the stairway, the very hardest one to get to, of course. 

09/11/2007 09:43 PM by Summit County, Colorado Realtor l Joanne Hanson (Coldwell Banker Colorado Rockies Real Estate)


Wow Teri,  how annoying!  I think you took it a lot longer than I would have.  geez.  I'm glad that you got it worked out!  Great lesson in Smoke Alarms and CO2 detectors.

09/12/2007 06:16 PM by Stephanie Edwards-Musa, Realtor ® The Woodlands, TX Real Estate (Prudential Gary Greene, Realtors ®)


I hear you!!  We have one right now that has chirped a few times lately.  There's nothing like THAT NOISE and trying to figure out WHICH ONE is going off as soon as possible!

09/26/2007 07:50 PM by Real Estate Specialist | Brandon, FL | Susie Roscoe (Signature Realty Associates)


I just had to let you know that by reading this we finally solved our 6 month long mystery.  My story is a little differnt as our beeping was constant (every minute).  I was lucky, as even though the detector was right outside the bedroom, myself and family were totally used to the beeps to the point, we did not notice them anymore.  We tried multiple new bateries and finally installed 3 brand new detectors.   Still chirp, chirp, chirp every minute,  Funny thing was, even when disconnected, the chirping kept on.  We were totally baffled which led me to your more research on the web when I came accross your note.  Bingo, it must be a hidden detector we did not know about in the attic. Close, but no cigar.  We had no carbon monoxide units in our house.  The chirping kept on.  I knew we were on to something with the hidden unit, so my search continued.  It finally dawned on me about a year or so ago, we had purchaed a battery powered unit that did not fit with the wires, so it never was insatlled.  Into the back of the linen closet it went without another thought.  What to my suprise, this Saturday when I finally was determined to solve this mystery once and for all, I began to clean out the closet.....and there it was on the bottom shelve, staring me in the face.  I picked it up and waited, chirp, chirp, chirp....Music to my ears.  That dectector that was never put it!  Mystery soleved!   Your right, those things echo and make it sound like its coming from the smoke detector. Just wanted to say thank you!! 

02/11/2008 09:56 AM by Kris


Kris--YOU are so welcome! Now you can have a full nights sleep and it will feel so good believe me! :) Thanks for letting me know that I am not the only one that has had this long crazy frustrating experience!

02/11/2008 10:09 AM by Teri Eckholm, Realtor® Anoka County MN (Keller Williams Premier Realty)


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