As you may have read in my previous Blog, the Nigerian 419 scam has invaded our very own realty market here in Washington State. This is a fairly sophisticated scam that many people have fallen for and lost thousands in the process. Any clients you may have that are intending to buy property for the purpose of renting it out needs to be aware of this situation.

One popular free advertising source known as Craiglist.com is a steady source of victims for the scam artist operating out of Nigeria and the UK. However, it's not uncommon for listings on the MLS to receive such offers as well. There are three groups involved in perpetrating the scam. The first bunch are known as the Yahoo Boys, and they are the ones that scour the web for email address regarding rental properties. They send out emails by the thousands in the hope a few will respond.

Once someone has they may pass it on to another scammer that's experienced in the art of reeling the victim in (2nd level). All of this activity is watched over by the ring leaders (3rd level) that actually monitor all of the email accounts to insure the "worker bees" are performing correctly, and if it appears one is dropping the ball they will pull him out and bring in another more experienced player. The ringleaders collect the funds and actually pay commissions down the line to the boys that reeled them in. Many of the Yahoo Boys are college students and are given computers and promises of big money to participate; they view it as a job. It's not any different from Americas own drug dealers luring kids in to selling drugs for them. A great deal of this type of activity takes place in internet cafés, but often the kids are provided laptops and internet connections to work from home.

I recently ran an ad on craigslist.com to see if they were still working it. Craigslist has posted many warnings against responding to such solicitations and I was curious if the scammers had moved on to more fertile ground. They have not; I   received 16 such inquiries in one day to a simple ad offering a room for rent in Bellevue. I used a fictitious identity and a newly created email address. I'll use the emails from just one of them as an example. This particular scammer managed to have a check on my doorstep by the next day!

This is a common type of email sent in search of victims and is sent to dozens of people at a time (they are often poorly written):

First response to my ad:

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hi ,
I am willing to rent a room or seek roommates who is nice and honest.
My name is Helen and I am 28yrs, Single, never been married, I am originally from Harrisburg, PA but I am currently out of the United States, I should return back to the State, as soon as I am able to secure a room where I will stay.


I am honest, trustworthy and caring person, who enjoy making good friends, I dont smoke and I dont drink ( but I am not against it), my hobbies are traveling, and Singing, I go to a friends party, but I dont stay late at night.


I would have loved to come and look at the room, but I am not in the States yet, so I will trust you on what you tell me regards the room.
I am currently working for GVI (GLOBAL VISION INTERNATIONAL) and I travel most times to the UK, I work as resercher on a construction Project/Research and Exploration Expedition.
I am moving back to the States. this very week, I have plans to staying back in the States, and look for a part-time job with my degree in Marketing, have thought about it carefully and I want to move to friendly city, where I can start my own life different from the one I have lived in the UK while working with my company GVI and the part-time job I will get any moment from now.
So I just want you to confirm the rent including utilities and if there is any deposit, whats the amount to move in all together? I am willing to stay for up to 8 months but I can move out during this 8 months if you want me to, as soon as I arrange payment for 2 months rent and deposit, when do I move in?


What is the closest international airport to the house? I will ask my company's associate in the US to send you a payment to cover for 2 months to confirm my willingness to occupy your space.
Please forward me your full details where you would want the payment be mailed to:


(Full Name)......
(Address):.....
(City, Zip Code):...
(Email):...
(Direct Phone):...


Thanks, I will be waiting for your details so I can proceed with the payment, I have also forwarded you my picture so you will know how I look.


Regards,


Helen
+44(0)7031817967

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Once someone has responded and expresses interest in renting to the scammer, they will receive this (already calling themselves your roommate), the "private email address" is actually the pass-off to the more experienced con artist.

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hi Michelle,


How are you doing, This is Helen, your roommate, this is my private email address............. carterplp@yahoo.com, I have forwarded your details and I am looking forward to meet you, so the payment of the room will get to you by Wednesday-Thursday due to the postal system, as soon as you get it do not hesitate to contact me so I can proceed with my flight. I will also need your phone number just in case I want to reach you.


My company associate in the States has issued a cashier's check to cover for the rent and my expenses during my trip to the states, as soon as you get it, deduct your rent for 2 months including deposit and forward the remaining funds to my traveling Agent, through Western Union so I can use it to get my flight ticket. I will be buying a used car when I arrive, I will appreciate it if you can help me remove your ads from the internet so I will be assured that I am the only one contacting you regards the room. do you have YAHOO or MSN instant messenger so we can also talk for free on yahoo, my yahoo chat ID is: carterplp@yahoo.com.


Thanks, I cant wait to meet you in person, I will forward you the tracking number of the package(payment)


Your future roommate,
Helen

_______________________________________________________________________________________________________

After a bit of small talk you will receive this email:

_____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hi Misha,


How are you doing?, I am happy that you will get the payment today, the UPS tracking number is (J2080425169), you can go to http://www.ups.com/USto track the package. I was informed that the $4550 was mailed to you to cover for my rent and my flight ticket to the US, as soon as you get it, go and deposit it in your account, you will help me transfer the balance of $2400 to my traveling agent who is in charge of my flight directly, while the remaining funds will be used towards my rent and utilities. I will be flying on either KLM or British Airways, since I am a member, but will forward you my flight details as soon as it has been scheduled.
Below is my traveling agent's info where you will transfer my ticket funds to, through Western Union Money Transfer, you only need the Agent's Name and City, Zip and country to transfer funds using Western Union Money Transfer.

(Name): TIMOTHY MONTOYA

(City)Port Washington

(State)WI.

(Zip) 53074

I will be expecting the following info from you as soon as you send the funds, I am aware that the Western Union Agent will charge you for sending fee, please use out of the funds to pay the tranfer fee, I will need the info as follows:

(1)Exact Amount Sent(after deducting the transfer charges):................
(2)Senders Name and Address:...........
(3)Money Control Number/Reference Number(MTCN):.........


Please, do make sure the funds are sent same day you get the payment so I can get my ticket on Friday and fly on Saturday, that reminds me, how do I get the keys to the room, will you be available to pick me up on Thursday???.
Thanks, I awaits the Western Union Details.


Regards,
Helen

______________________________________________________________________________________________________

Then the sense of urgency begins and often you will receive several emails in rapid succession: 

_______________________________________________________________________________________

Hello Misha,

How are you doing, I just got your message, please make sure the funds are wired today, Saturday is my flight, I want to be able to schedule a flight tomorrow, did you get my traveling agent's info?

Thanks, looking forward to meet you.

Helen

____________________________________________________________________________________________________

Hello Michelle,

How are you doing, did you get the payment yet, I tracked it and it has been delivered at the front door of your room, so please I will need your swift response ok, I cant wait to meet you, will you be able to pick me up at the airport?

Thanks, will be waiting for the Western Union Details.

Helen

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Because I like to see how they deal different objections I send various responses, this is one I used:  

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Me: Yes, it was there when I got home from school today but it was too late to go to the bank. I talked to my mom today cause I was real excited about you coming here, and she thinks it's a great thing. She did suggest though that I wait until the check clears with the bank before sending any funds to you. I'll have to ask the bank how many days it takes to clear completely, hope that's not a problem luv. I'm really excited about your coming here and I know we're going to be the best of friends! 

Scammer: Hello Misha, How are you doing, I am really excited at the thought of meeting you, I can see that you are nice and honest, I am the same kind of person, I cant wait to meet you, please the bank might want to put 2-3days on it, I wont be able to wait for that long.

I am asking you, if there is anything we can do so I can get my flight, or if there is a way you can borrow money for me and as soon as it clears, we will replace it back. Can we exchange pictures?

Helen

Me: I maybe could borrow some money from my student loan account, but that's about all the money that's in it. If for some reason I couldn't pay it back I wouldn't be able to pay for next semester and I would not be able to attend classes. My mom would just kill me! What's your flight number and departure time?

Scammer: Hello Misha, I really appreciate what you are doing to me, I promise to be the best fried you ever have, please, maybe we shouldnt tell your mom about it, so when the check clears, we can return it back, my flight is Saturday 6pm, I will need to pay my traveling agent before I can get a confirmation for my flight. ok.

Please, I will appreciate it if you can wire the money to my traveling agent today or early tomorrow, It is certain we will replace it back ok. Thanks. Looking forward to meet you

Helen

Me: I do feel like I've known you all my life, and I'm certain I can trust you. Maybe when I go to the bank I should just explain the urgency of the situation and they can call the bank that issued the check to confirm it's good. I'll bet that would solve our problem! What do you think? I hate to lie to my poor mother, she's been really sick with cancer and all and she doesn't feel good. Wouldn't it be better to just ask the bank to help us out? 

Scammer:  Hello Misha, I understand, I wouldn't want you to lie as well, there is nothing the bank can do because it is a policy they must follow, let just see how many days they will ask use to wait then. Thanks, looking forward to meet you.

Helen

(After this email, a more experienced scammer came in. This one was dropping the ball)

Me: Gee thanks, that's a good idea. I knew you would be understanding of the situation. I actually forgot where you're flying from! I see your travel agent is here in the US, did you used to live in that State? I'm still so excited knowing your coming so soon, the weathers still pretty nice so we can spend a little time going downtown and eating at all the beautiful restaurants. What's your favorite kinda food Helen! 

Scammer: Hello Misha, How are you doing, I am exicted about meeting you as well, yes I use to live in Harrisburg, PA and Wi but thats a long time, I am originally from PA. I like lights food, yes we could go out and have a nice time.

Helen

Me: Where are you now, are you in England? I've always wanted to go there! What do you do for work?? I want to be a Hotel Manager, or maybe work on one of those big cruise ships after I graduate. Did you go to college in Harrisburg? You mentioned earlier we could exchange pictures; I don't remember if I ever sent you any or not, so I'll go ahead and attach a few for you now. 

Scammer: How are you doing? I just got your email, I want to know if i can borrow some little funds from you, any amount you have, I will appreciate it. I WANT T RAISE SOME MONEY TO BUY MY FLIGHT BEFORE THE CHECK CLEARS, the days the bank asked you to come seems like a year to me, I will be waiting for your swift response.

miss ya

Helen

Me: How much do you need to borrow sweety? I don't think it will be a big problem. Can you possibly send me a scan of your photo identification, like a driver's license, or school ID? Then I at least know exactly who I'm making the loan too. 

Scammer: Hello Misha, how are you doing? I just got your email, I cant believe you are asking me for these just because I ask you to borrow me some money, I dont have a scanner to scan what you have asked me to send to you.

But, I want you to know that I am an honest person, I cant borrow what I will not pay for, it is very urgent thats the reason why I turned to you for assistance, we are now friends, I can assist you if you want me to as well.....

Please there is no way I can send all this, since I dont have a scanner, I want to believe you trust me right? Please........

Helen

Me: Well, shoot, don't they have places that can scan for you? Oh, wait, I know. Maybe you can just take a picture of it and send that! I would at least like pictures of you or something, I know we're friends and all but I've never even seen you. Plus, you didn't say how much you want me to loan you. I only have about $5,000 in my college loan account that I'm supposed to use for school next semester, if I sent you that I would really need to be sure your going to pay me. If I lose my college money I can't return to school for half a year, and my mothers so sick with cancer I know it would just kill her if I wasn't in school.

It's not that I don't trust you hon, but the check didn't come from you, it came from another person. I have no idea who that person is. What if they cheated you and me both? What should we do Helen???

Scammer: Hello Misha, I just got your email and I believe you, I wouldnt want you to risk anything for your college ok, I will have to wait till the check clears then, I just hope it wont tkae more than 3day, but what I was acutally going to borrow from is $1000 and not $5000, I was just thinking I could be in the State by this new week, so we can visit alot of places together, I am really excited about meeting you.

and I know you will make a good friend. I wish you could borrow just the $1000 before noon tomorrow, I would appreciate it, that means I will still be able to fly later in the evening on Saturday.

How is your parents doing, I hope she is using her treatment, where di she travel to? would you like to visit the UK in your holidays? we cna go together and stay in my house here in London.

Thanks, will be waiting for your email.

Helen

Me: So sorry I just got your message Helen, I went to my best friend's birthday party (see pic) and we had such a good time. I really wish you could have been there. As for your question, $1,000 doesn't seem so bad; it is a lot of money to me so please realize that even losing that amount would dramatically affect my life.

The banks aren't open tomorrow though Helen, so I can't do it until Monday. You really have to swear to me though, if the check your friend sent for any reason doesn't clear (which it can't in 3 days, it takes over a week), you will pay me when you get here.

Surely you understand that even losing a thousand dollars would mean I can't continue my education, and when my mother returns from France from her cancer treatment, the last thing in the whole world I want to do is break her heart and tell her I lost my school money and had to drop out. I think I would rather kill myself than do that.

So please, you must promise me on the Holy Bible you will make good on the loan if the check isn't good. Do you promise??

Love you always,

Scammer: Hi Misha, How are you doing, I just got your email, yes I realized that alot of things is at stake if you have to borrow me the money, I promise to give you back if anything happens to the check ok, but I bet you nothing is going to happen, because this is my pay check, and no one will want to send me a bad payment, but I promise to give you back the funds if anything happens ok..... trust me on this.


Regards the party, I saw the pic, I just wished I was there with you, at least thats another avenue where we can spend time together and get to know ourselves better, right now it is as if I have known you for years, the understanding is just too perfect.
I cant wait to be there so we can go to other occasions like that, we could even visit London together during your hols in school. Please, do make sure the funds are wired early on Monday, try and do everything very early on Monday, I will really appreciate it.....I promise to pay you back in a very big way!


Thanks, looking forward to meet you.
Helen

(As you can see, the scammer is finding humor in ripping her off when he say's "I promise to pay you back in a very big way!")

Me: How much of my school money should I send? What do you need for your trip? I've seen those pics before, is that all you have?

Hello Misha,

How are you doing today, sorry I have not been online for sometime now, I have been busy putting my things in place for my trip. I would have appreciate $1500, but I am not sure you would be able to do that? if it is possible help me with $1500, and if you think $1000 is ok, then try and send it to me very early Monday morning ok.

Please, it is Monday here and the time is 4:56am, I will be coming back to check my email for the Western Union Details ok.


 I hope you still remember my agent's info:

(Name): TIMOTHY MONTOYA

(City)      Port Washington

(State)    WI.

(Zip)       53074

I will be expecting the following info from you as soon as you send the funds, I am aware that the Western Union Agent will charge you for sending fee, please use out of the funds to pay the transfer fee, I will need the info as follows:

(1) Exact Amount Sent (after deducting the transfer charges):................
(2) Senders Name and Address:...........
(3) Money Control Number/Reference Number (MTCN):.........

I am looking forward to meet you Misha, I cant wait for us to paint the city with beautiful colors together.

Helen

Me: Thank for all your patience, I spoke with the bank and they said the money was available for withdrawal so I've sent $2,515.00 early this morning. The MCN number they gave me was 289-609-5468. Take care and be sure to get back to me with your flight information!

Now obviously I sent no money and the number is fictitious; often I'll send them to the WU several times attempting to collect, and sometimes I even send them a doctored receipt from Western Union to convince them it was indeed sent. On one such occasion the scammer went to Western Unions office with the fictitious receipt so many times the police were waiting for him when he came the 4th time to collect and his associates emails me asking me to help get him out of jail! He was quite upset and said "Our Minister of Finance" has been arrested!" that made my day.

The two things people have said to me in the past regarding these scams is that:

  1. Anyone getting pulled into such a scam is being greedy and trying to get something for nothing, therefore they deserve what they got!

  

  1. The Nigerians are so poor they're simply acting in desperation and trying to find a better life.

I don't really believe either are true 100% of the time. As you can see by this email exchange, this person I fabricated was merely trying to rent out a room, and for a fair price. It wasn't part of a "Help me sneak 45 million of a deceased persons bank account and I'll split it with you" scam (although that is a common scheme); so honest hard working people are victimized by these scams.

I intentionally said all I could to see if the scammer had any sympathy at all. In the end, it didn't matter how sweet and innocent Misha sounded, that she would not be able to pay for college once the scam was complete, or that her mother was gravely ill. The scammer had no qualms getting her to take her college money and send it and instructed her to keep it a secret from her ailing mother.

I also wanted to show how they befriend the victim and prey on many lonely people. The young and elderly are common victims. I recently saw a young man on TV that simply wanted to sell his motorcycle. He was contacted by a man from overseas and sent a check for more than the amount due. He was then contacted by the "shipper" and asks to wire money so that they would pick the bike up and ship it out. He lost over $3,000 and now has to work 3 jobs to repay the bank or face criminal charges. He wasn't trying to get rich quick, just sell his bike.

I spoke with a Realtor last week that said she had in fact rented a home to someone that contacted her via the web and rented the home prior to arriving from Canada. They did send her a cashier's check, but they did not ask for money back; it was a legitimate deal. So it's not hard for someone to believe that it is legitimate since on occasion people do rent rooms in this manner. Then when the bank permits them to withdraw the money from the account based on the check being deposited, many believe that indicates it has cleared, when in fact it has not.

As for the Nigerians impoverished condition driving them to do this, that's not quite true. The bulk of the profits are going to the ringleaders and they have made billions. The Yahoo Boys are paid nominal commissions for their success. Many consider it a game, as this popular song indicates.  It's called "I Go Chop Your Dollar" and has lyrics such as this:

"419 is just a game. You are the loser, I am the winner. White people greedy.... I take your money and disappear.... You be the fool, I be the master."

The losses from this scam are in the billions! On August 6th 2007 the EEOC (Economic and Financial Crimes Commission) ran a sting operation in Nigeria and confiscated outbound mail for the US and UK. The operation produced startling discoveries of how criminal elements operating from the country ship fake documents and counterfeit financial instruments abroad. In several packages they found fraudulent identification and counterfeit financial instruments neatly concealed in carbon paper to evade the sensors of scanners.

In all, 15,129 counterfeit checks related to advance fee fraud scams were intercepted. They included 6,948 blank checks and others drawn for the sums of $145.9 million, Euro 211,077, 218.00, over two million Pounds Sterling and 120,450.00 Canadian dollars. So this is a major problem that shouldn't be ignored and written off as "something that happens to greedy fools".

In playing along with their scam and allowing them to send the check, only to realize they have wasted their time and money in doing so and perhaps makes them more leery of who they send the checks to. I've noticed that some of the ads I place on Craigslist receive no response. The Yahoo Boys have private websites where they post messages to one another regarding their own bad experience with victims and who to avoid.

I hope that in doing this I make them more leery of any ads for Washington State property rentals. I'm not crazy enough to believe I can end it, but as I said before, if I can just save a few from this scam it's worth my time. I haven't taken as much time or effort as it may seem; I often do it when I'm bored or need a break. Also, I can't lie; it's a bit fun at times.

 

 

 

80 Comments on Beware Rental Scams Operating on Craigslist.com

Thank you so much for this blog may I copy it and add it to my web site

09/10/2007 02:02 PM by Charlie Ragonesi Big Canoe homes, Jasper ,Ball Ground,Benttree,Dahlonega (All Mountain Realty)


Thanks for caring. I'm still going through it and ironing it out. It doesn't always post as it was written in Word. As I said, it's not just something that happens to greedy people looking for a quick buck, honest business people trying to be helpful to college kids are being vicitmized by the hundreds.

09/10/2007 02:07 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Interesting little game.  Not sure I would want to put that kind of time into it though.

09/10/2007 02:15 PM by New Jersey Real Estate James Boyer Morris, Essex & Union County NJ Realtor (RE/MAX Properties Unlimited, Real Estate)


AWESOME!!!

I've done the same thing with some scammers... most recently a person who posted a plasma TV on my local Orlando craigslist page, then claimed she was in England and wanted to sell it quickly and would ship it to me at a crazy low price (I guess selling it to someone IN THE U.K. made life too easy for her).  I love those ones, but when I offer to have my sister who 'happens to be in college and living right near you' pick it up personally and pay them on the spot, I never seem to hear back!

However, I've never seen anyone short of Dateline's Chris Hansen take it as far as you did.  Kudos for your research -- although I'm sure the satisfaction of ruining a scammer's day is all the recognition needed to keep you going!

09/10/2007 02:21 PM by Dan Norton -- Florida Foreclosures & REO/Bank-Owned Real Estate Properties (Trent Realty)


You are too funny!  I played along with a scammer like that off ebay once.  I realized it was a scam as soon as he sent about $2000 over what the auction was for.  No one is that trusting of a stranger, he said it was for "shipping & customs" charges in his country.  I played along for awhile and then forwarded all the emails to the FBI. He even got a little nasty & desparate sounding towards the end.  The way to stop them is just to keep informing the public of their scams so that no one else falls for it.

09/10/2007 02:22 PM by Matina


Indeed it is. I enjoyed it most when they said the minister of finance was arrested and asked that I contact Western Union to straighten it out. As for James's comment about the time it takes; it's not for everyone. I don't spend that much time on it, and by getting to share my findings on this blog I feel it's worth it. Often in Washington it will rain non-stop for a month or more and I'm stuck at home. One can only send so many emails and listings to clients before they need a break.

This has given me a source of entertainment and cost me nothing. It's amusing to see how frantic they get when WU says they don't have the money. I just keep telling them it must be a mistake and send them back. As I mentioned in my previous blog, I've even had one tell me he would contact the FBI if I didn't send the money. I simply said thats great, because I gave the check to the FBI and they wanted to speak with him anyway. I even gave him their number. Needless to say, he never wrote back. It's almost as though they feel it really is their money because they rightfully conned you out of it and you have to pay it like you said you would! I suspect many times they have already have made plans for the money or possibly borrowed against it beliving it's on the way.

09/10/2007 02:33 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


If you would like to read the most amusing tale of one such scam click on this link:

http://allreaders.net/allscams/thetaleoftunde.html

That was the one and only time I convinced a scammer to give up his own identity, address, and the fact that it was a scam. In the end he claimed to be giving up his dishonest ways. Posing as a young lady named Missy Prissy I baited him into falling in love, and we all know love is blind. You can even see the photo's he sent Missy, and you will be amazed when you see what kind of person is actually ripping Americans off for billions!

09/10/2007 02:52 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Glad to see a thorough post on this scam.  Thanks for the info!

-Eric C. Lowery, EquityShack.com, The Good Broker, LLC., Lawrenceville, GA

09/10/2007 03:09 PM by Eric Lowery (RE/BOOST, Lawrenceville, GA Real Estate)


My previous blog post describes a different version of the scam that is also used a lot in the rental industry; it deals with those looking to rent a room. Many think no one they know would ever fall for such cons, but the truth is, they just would never tell you if they did. Odds are, we all know someone that got taken one way or another.

09/10/2007 03:15 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Often the way people are conned into sending the money is through what they believe is a third party. These emails are from another scammer that responded to the ad on craigslist:

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Hello Mishy

Did you get the check of $3,900 from my Financier , My Robert Reyes ? I asked my shipper to contact you and kindly let me know when you will be able to forward my balance to my shipper when you get up this morning , I will like you to kindly help me forward the payment to them when you get up this morning . Please write to me when you get my email . please kindly make a withdrawal of the balance today when you get to the Bank , so that my items can be shipped down to you . I asked them to contact you about the payment .

Esther

Then you receive this from the bogus shipper (although it is the name of a real furniture oulet)

________________________________________________________________________

Phone # 206-666-2674                                 Ref #: 01815
 
Dear Sir/Ma,   
 
We are to contact you on behalf of our valued client (Miss. Esther Naomi ) concerning the payment of the delivery of her items . We would need a Deposit/Advance payment to secure her order with us,  She told us that she has sent you a check payment for the item including the Our shipping charges, We want you to send the payment to us via western union money transfer. We urge you to send the sum of $2,150.00 to our Secectary, then we can arrange for the delivery. We  request a time and date for the Delivery Of Her Items .

Considering the limited time that we have, Miss. Esther Naomi has instructed us to expect the cost of the shipping charges from you this week, all instructions and information to send the funds to has been sent to Miss. Esther Naomi  which we believe its already given to you. So you get back to our client asap so he can provide us the information to get the funds picked up so we can schedule a delivery time with you soon.We will contact you to schedule the delivery date of the furniture at your convenient time. At Ashley-Ships , we are proud of our past, encouraged for our future and genuinely excited to make Delivieries for the most important people there are - you. 
 
Thank you,
 
Mr. Brian Brennan { Director }
Cell ; (601) 857-1171
  

09/10/2007 03:22 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


ROTFLMAO!  Michael, what is it with your fixation with scammers?  I'll always have to call you Michael and not Mike just to prove I'm not a guy ;)

09/13/2007 02:48 AM by ARDELL DellaLoggia (Sound Realty)


Well, well,. its the legendary Ardell! I'll try to explain my motivation behind my unusual hobby as best I can. Many years ago my wife was ripped off for over $80,000 by a con artist mortgage broker (we had only just met one another at the time) and I saw the damage it did to her self esteem and confidence; I then developed a real hatred for all con artist. These email idiots I just get to run in circles since they're so far from home, but I waste their time, and it's time they would otherwise spend ripping off a real victim. I've even taught others to do it as you can see on the allreaders message board.

I've also had a client that was the victim of the "straw mortgage" scam and it ruined her life to the point where she lost everything she had, and then tried to kill herself. Many people are simply amused when they see on TV that some "dummy" lost their hard earned money to some low-life con artist in some type of scam; I don't find it amusing. Leading the con artist into thinking they have swindled me, only to swindle them in the end I do find amusing. Often they are very bold and a bit nasty when you don"t send them your money as you are told and I suspect many weak people are pressured into doing it; as you can see in the email I received recently when I requested to see ID prior to wiring the money.

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From: Veronica Coley <veronica_luv147@yahoo.com>
To: mish550@aol.com
Sent: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 7:09 pm
Subject: Payment Status: DELIVERED,Delivery Time: 1:46:00 PM.Act Fast!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its ok that you got back to me, And i want to tell you again you dont need to keep asking to scan my ID befor you can sent the balance of the money to my travelling agent ok. All what i want you to do when you got the check get it cash and get the balance sent to me Asap. Stop asking me for what is personal to me.

U keep asking all this annoyne Questions,  ok.When i try to no the status of the payment online here's what i was told. See it Below   US Postal Service Tracking Number: 03071790000167326473


Status: DELIVERED
Delivery Date: Wednesday, September 12, 2007
Delivery Time: 1:46:00 PM
Delivery Location: Bellevue, WA
Carrier: US Postal Service  

So i want you to get back to me Asap. Hope to hear from you soon, Thanks for your understanding and caring.

Stay Bless ,  Veronica

09/13/2007 01:40 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


It is amazing what lengths people will go to in order to rip off other people.  Anymore, cashier's checks are not that exciting to accept as payment.

09/20/2007 09:59 AM by Rob Arnold, Florida Realtor / Investor (Sand Dollar Realty Group, Inc.)


Yes, they dont mean much anymore as trophys (I have over 60k in checks), but I do like to see the various qualities of forgeries out there. Some of the Visa Travelers Checks and US Postal Money Orders are of high quality and would likely fool anyone. It's just fun to waste their time when I have a spare minute. It makes them pretty upset at times. I got this email recently )I even had to censor it):

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Re: TRACKING NUMBER FOR THE PAYMENT..............(7924 2038 7183)

 

Good morning Michelle How are you doing hope you are doing Great.Well i am very pissed,you made me fool a whole Company i passed the fuxxxxx information you gave me to the ticketing company and they sent their agent down to western union store to pick the founds with the printed western union form you sent me But to my Greatest sujrprise they told me That their is No Order in that Name

That the form was Fake  why all this bullxxxx what are you trying to do please if you know whats better then do it i need you to send the rest of that money Now to the Ticketing company's Info that i gave you ok do that Now am pleeding in Gods Name

Please try and do this for me so they can get all her flying Documents Ready so she can leave here and come to you Now ok please do this for me Now and the Phone Number you gave me i tgried calling the number But it has been disconected why is that well thats not a problem to me Just get the money sent today and i don't need any more of your fuxxxxx Jokes Ok am very serious Now Ok so go and send the funds Now Ok.Reply Now!!!!!!!!!!!!

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So as you see, I do have the pleasure of ruining their day.

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09/20/2007 01:54 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Hahaha... LOL. I love it, keep up the pressure on those bastards....

I have not encountered this particular scam yet, but I *every* day I get the lottery scam messages, sometimes even three or four a day... I keep a count on how much money I have "won", and by now I top $2870 MILLION! (Yes I am a "rich" man).

 I  also tried to misguide them, but was not so successful. Now that I've read yourblog I got a few good ideas how to approach tem next time...

11/18/2007 07:59 AM by Ramon


Here is a copy of my email with a scammer. I'm glad people are sharing information about these people and hope that it helps minimize the scams. I thought it was odd that he gave so much personal information, but I'm sure they have a ring out there to answer all inquiries. We even checked out the street address, and it is valid. Nothing on the internet about the employer. After reading all the other info that people have posted, it's obvious it's the same scam.

 Hello..
 Thanks for the details on the house. I am a supervisor of a local construction company in Wales which specialises in construction of companies and houses.I am sent over to states to study Construction and house development so to improve our standard.I like you reserve
the place for me upon my arrival .
 Contrary to payment,all my expenses including house rent will be taken care of my the company .Be advised that my manager will be effecting payment with a certified cashier check drwan from a US bank worth $6,800(which is a relocation grant from my employment and i have decided to use it for the deposit, interiordecoration and getting furnitures for the place).You will then have to deduct an initial deposit of $1,495 (which is the move in cost).All subsequent monthly rent would be paid by me in cash. You will have to forward the excess funds on the check to the interior decorator(who will be responsible for shipping of furnitures, electrical appliances and other personal luggages). I hope this is clear between us? mail me back with your details:
 
your full name to be written on check:
Address to send to:
Your cell phone number
 
Below are my full details :
Name: Dawkin Rhodes Current Address:14B Cathedral Road Cardiff, CF11 9PH ,North Wales
Age:39
Marital status:Married
Profession: Estates Consultant
Sex:Male
Phone :+44-702-408-4960
009-44-702-408-4960
 Check below for my referal ,he his my current landlord ,you can ask him about my rental history and behaviour :
 
Name: George Honson
Same Address:14B Cathedral Road Cardiff, CF11 9PH ,North Wales
Email:gleslie443@yahoo.com
 
And also this is my Employer Contact information :
Wen Consultants Ltd.
Wendel Lazo
009 703 401 3193
sdll95@yahoo.com
 
I'm a Gentleman,dont smoke..
Your response will be appreciated.
Regards.

 

12/12/2007 08:51 AM by Jill


They do get creative. I got this one last week it's from yet another poor refugee trying to smuggle millions out of the country. I forwarded it the Bank of Scottland:

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RE: Darling this is my full life story with love trust and care..
From:NANCY AMUDU (nancylove_nap2@yahoo.com)
Sent:Thu 12/13/07 1:12 PM
To: Michael Creel (mwcreel@hotmail.com)

 

Hello my dear how are you? together with your work i feel all is fine.I am happy to read your mail once again, and i have had what you said. As i ealier told you the situation of the kind of enviroment i stay does not give me the opportunty to do such.   Besides, my picture is not a guarrantee for you to be convinced regardness to my fact, since we still have the opportunity to meet in America.

Here i attach with, the (BANK INFORMATIONS FOR YOUR VERIFICATION.) God will bless and reward you for every effort you are about to make to see me out from this horrible prison called refugee camp where i am
living today as a result of  the untimely death of my parents (may their gentle souls rest in peace).
I thank God for the life of Rev Rev .Emmanuel George the pastor of the church located in the camp where i recieve and send emails to you. When you call tell him that you want to speak with me so that he will send to me.

He is like a father to us here as his church assists united nations here in Senegal in taking care of refugees.i'm living in the females hostel.
Here  is the contact information of the bank in Scotland where the money was deposited by my late father is as follows,
 
NAME OF THE BANK - ROYAL BANK  OF SCOTLAND
NAME OF THE TRANSFER - OFFICER IS MR BRAIN WILSTON
TELEPHONE NUMBER IS   +44-7045-7323-74
FAX  NUMBER                   +44-70-45-723-797
 
EMAIL  ADRESS-(Royal_Bank_Scotland@mybestmail.com)
                           (royal_bank_of_scotland@ommail.com)
        
Already i have informed this bank about my intention to claim my late father's deposit of which my name appears as the next of kin. The only thing the bank told me is to look for a foreign partner who will assist me in the transfer due to my refugee status here in Senegal as a refugee i am not allowed directely claim of the money but through an apointed representative as the united refugee law governing refugee all over the world states.


Based on this information i will like you to send an email to the transfer department of the  bank today with this email addres (Royal_Bank_Scotland@mybestmail.com) Attentioned Mr Brain Wilston the foreign transfer officer of the bank telling him that you are my representative and that you want to assist me transfer my four Million US Dollars deposited by late father of which i am the next of kin. after you contact the bank you call me on phone today.
 
THE ACCOUNT INFORMATION ARE AS FOLLOWS.
ACCOUNT NAME IS  (DR MIKE WILSON )
AMOUNT $9.7(NINE.SEVEN  Million US Dollars).
NEXT OF KIN MISS (JULIAN MIKE).
ACCOUNT NUMBER (CTB791103546/CMT/91/S)
 
God bless you as you do this today,


Yours
Julian .

12/13/2007 12:47 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Here is a copy of my email with a scammer. I'm glad people are sharing information about these people and hope that it helps minimize the scams. I thought it was odd that he gave so much personal information, but I'm sure they have a ring out there to answer all inquiries.  Nothing on the internet about the employer. After reading all the other info that people have posted, it's obvious it's the same scam with same company & landlord's name but his name is different.

 Hello..
 Thanks for the details on the house. I am a supervisor of a local construction company in Wales which specialises in construction of companies and houses.I am sent over to states to study Construction and house development so to improve our standard.I like you reserve
the place for me upon my arrival .
 Contrary to payment,all my expenses including house rent will be taken care of my the company .Be advised that my manager will be effecting payment with a certified cashier check drwan from a US bank worth $10,800(which is a relocation grant from my employment and i have decided to use it for the deposit, interiordecoration and getting furnitures for the place).You will then have to deduct an initial deposit of $1,495 (which is the move in cost).All subsequent monthly rent would be paid by me in cash. You will have to forward the excess funds on the check to the interior decorator(who will be responsible for shipping of furnitures, electrical appliances and other personal luggages). I hope this is clear between us? mail me back with your details:
 
your full name to be written on check:
Address to send to:
Your cell phone number
 
Below are my full details :
Name: John  Weaser Current Address:35 Ynys Wen Booth House, Felinfoel Llanelli, SA14 8BE
Age:39
Marital status:Married
Profession: Estates Consultant
Sex:Male
Phone :+44-702-408-4960 (same number on the other scam)
009-44-702-408-4960
 Check below for my referal ,he his my current landlord ,you can ask him about my rental history and behaviour :
 
Name: George Honson (same number on the other scam)
Same Address:14B Cathedral Road Cardiff, CF11 9PH ,North Wales
Email:gleslie443@yahoo.com (same number on the other scam)
 
And also this is my Employer Contact information :
Wen Consultants Ltd. (same number on the other scam)
Wendel Lazo
009 703 401 3193
sdll95@yahoo.com
 
I'm a Gentleman,dont smoke..
Your response will be appreciated.
Regards.

 

01/30/2008 11:57 PM by Kali


Funny thing is, months after I posted this story, our very own NWMLS finally felt the need to bring this issue to agents attention. Here is what they had to say about it.

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Beware of Scams on Craigslist

This person is using a listed property to lure potential renters, gather deposit money and then defraud. THIS HOME IS NOT FOR RENT. It is a scam.

From: Clementine Paradise (clementine.paradise@yahoo.com )

To: xxxxxxx Subject: Re: house for rent

Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:47:20 +0000 

Thanks for your email and interest in my house.May the peace of the Lord be upon you and your family.I am Clementine Paradise the owner of the House you are interest in located at Washinton. Presently am on a missionary work transfer to WEST AFRICA.I went there with all my family ,On getting here,i discoverd that my missionary work will last for 5 years so i decided to look for a responsible and caring person to maintain and take proper care of my House as i do.Please i want you to know that i am a kind and honest Man of God also i spent alot on my properties so i will want you to treat it as your own.

You will pay $700 /month, The money involved does not matters to me but i want you to keep it tidy all the time so that i will be glad to see it neat when i come for a check up. the house is located at 2017 Northeast 137th Street, Seattle WA 98125 Firstly,i will like you to go take a look at the exterior part of the house > because you will not be able to go inside to see the interior hence i have all the keys and security code here with me.you can get back to me if you are truely interested.

My house contains utilities such as:  Wardrobe,Double Bed,Sheets & Blankets with Air Conditioning in the Bedrooms, Furnished, TV, Iron, Sofa, DVD, Internet service and Air Conditioning in the Livingroom. Also, Washing Machine, Fridge, Gas Hob, Oven, Microwave, Plates & cutlery in the Kitchen, etc. 

Do get back to me if you are truely interested and sure of taking proper care of my house there is a rent application form which i will like you to fill it and send back to me. If you can do all this for me,then i will be willing to rent my house to you. Looking forward to hear from you. Your full information will be used to process all documents that will be comming together with the keys leading to the house and this will come to you through DHL courier service. Thank you and remain Blessed.

Clementine

xxxxxxx@comcast.net wrote:

Hello, I was inquiring about your house for rent. Is it still available? If so, I would like to arrange a time to take a look at it. It sounds really cute.  Thank you!

Posted January 21, 2008

Northwest Multiple Listing Service

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Glad to know MLS is on top of things.

02/05/2008 01:38 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


where do I forward scam emails?  FBI - what link?  I was responding to a scam today, but something kept nagging me until I searched for rental property scams and pulled up your blog.  Now, I just want to know where to forward his emails so he can possibly get caught.

 Vikki

03/03/2008 04:05 AM by Vikki Wells


Theres really no FBI Link to forward such emails to, there just to many of these for them to pursue. If the person contacting you claims to represent a particular company, then contact the company and they can complain to the Secret Service. On one such occasion I did do that, and once I tricked the fellow into revealing his true identity, he was arrested.

03/03/2008 01:56 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


I owned a resturant and filed bankruptcy recently.  I needed desperately to sell the remaining equipment from the store.  I was approached with very similar offers all overseas want to buy the most expensive stuff.  They wanted to 'overpay' to convince me how serious the offer was?  I was to forward back a large amount to UK (for the shipping fee, that the buyer suddently knew even though they didnt know the weight or size?)  But they were sure the shipping/handling fee was very high.  I hadnt been online in years and nearly feel into this until all the questions started and the buyer wanted to know way more then needed to just buy some equipment.  Same hussle but just to sell some stuff on craigslist, I was flooded by these type emails.

 I ran a trace route on the emails IP's and found them all in South UK, interestingly the buyer claimed to be another person with a new email addy, which traced back to the same IP....fun fun.  IF you take a 'certified cashiers chk' NEVER send anyone the 'change' or you'll be paying it back yourself.

 JOE

03/19/2008 08:31 AM by same kinda problem on craigslist


Craigslist is a scam artist haven. When you advertise on there, it's like throwing meat into a tank full of sharks. I write these post to try and bring awareness to people. Glad you didn't fall for it.

03/21/2008 02:16 PM by Mike


What a bunch of lunatics!! I almost believed it but I searched for the company on google to see if it was real and low and behold I found this blog..  I am more than grateful that you have saved me from making a huge mistake! These people are nuts, writing me messages telling me I won the UK lottery... Well I never left the US something ain't right about that! Thank you again! I will post my own blog about my experience with these scammers and hopefully save a few more people as well! 

05/02/2008 11:12 AM by Nicole


Nicole, you may wish to visit the site I've dedicated to 419 scammers. You'll get a clear picture of how pervasive they are. http://allreaders.net/allscams/lotteryscams.html

05/02/2008 02:33 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


I also got the the e-mail, sounded fishy from the get go, so I googled the number, the address and the company and BAM, I found your wonderful website, thank you so much.

05/04/2008 06:38 PM by Natalia


Well I'm glad I did some good. I recently ran another ad on Craigslist in an effort to rent my home out. I received about a dozen such solicitations in one day. Here are a few:

From: Ena Kenrich <naturalgift1@hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2008 5:58:52 AM
Subject: I'm Interested

Good Day,

I am pleased to contact you about your accommodation which you have for rent. I am 28 years old lady from a good background in UK. Do not smoke, drink nor a party type.I like reading, watching TV (mostly Discovery Programmes) and meeting people, working with Premier Oil & Gas Plc in
Republic of Ireland as a Geophysicist.

I will be coming to USA for a research project in less than a month, and which will last between 11 - 12 months. So, I need an accommodation to stay for the period of the research project, and I will like to secure an accommodation before my arrival.

Therefore, let me know if your accommodation is available for me, if yes, send its address with brief description of its vicinity to me. Also let me know the rent cost per month and security deposit.

Thanks for your co-operation,while I can't wait to read your prompt response.

Cheers,

Ena Kenrich,
Assistant Field Geophysicist
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From: Sarah Moak <shongatz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 7:33:22 PM
Subject: i am interested in your RENT‏

In search of  a room or an apartment ,i came across the posted rent advert & ll like to know if its still available .I am in London as at now where i just finished my professional programme and relocating.
 
I am  a friendly and easy going person who like to acquaint with people from diverse races ,background and origin. my hobbies include music, movies, computers, poetry and giving an helping hand to whoever that needs it. My interest is not limited in anyway and i love trying out new things .I will like to know the location of the room/apartment ,with more details about the actual amount to be paid.
 
kindly email me again with the below details so we can proceed and have some things done concerning the Rent.

1} RENT FEE\MO ?
2} MOVE-IN DEPOSIT ?
3} ADDRESS OF THE PLACE FOR RENT ?
4) WILL YOU TAKE A CERTIFIED CASHIER'S CHEQUE FOR MOVE-IN DEPOSIT ?
5} HOW LONG RENT LEASE DO YOU REQUIRE?
6) DO YOU HAVE PICTURES ?
7 ) HOW FAR IS THE STORES , BUS-STOP & TRAIN STATION FROM THE PLACE ?
8) RENT START DATE ?

I will be expecting to read answers to the above questions asap .
 
Best Regards.
Sarah.

 

 

 

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From: nike joun titi4care_2006@yahoo.com
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 8:50:42 PM
Subject: Roommate

Hi  roommate How are you doing ? i am from dallas, I speak both English and Spanish fluently, and i am 32years of age. I am currently working with the Federal Agency of Works and Natural Resources in Spain.I am currently on a reseach programme,and i am desperately looking for a place to stay.


I read your profile about the room and i would really want to secure the room before my arrival,and more so to know if it would be possible for me to pay for the room before my arrival,So i will like to know the total amount of the room per month and the utility included.All these information are very important so that i can submit my proposal to my Organization.

My Organization will be responsible for all the fees and the payment will be by United State  money order. I will need the following information to get the payment to you.


(1) Full name as it will appear on the payment.
(2) Address
(3) phone number
 
I would be glad to see your quick response.

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From: Wendy Vincent wendyvincent90@hotmail.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:44:00 AM
Subject: Roommate

Hi,
 
How are you doing? Guess fine I presume. Am writing you in regards to your advert on Craigslist.com and I'm interested in your room apartment, Am from canada and I will be having some seminars coming up soon in US. Right now am working for a Non Government Organization on a program on children with orphans and heart related probs.
 
My next program/seminars will be in US and I will need a room to stay for these seminars, so I want to secure a room before my arrival to the states. I can't wait to arrive to US cause I've heard a lot about US.Moreso I will be staying for the period of 12-13 months, Pls do get back to me with the room description, move in rent fees for the first month, Utilities and deposit if included. And if any picture of the room is available, kindly attach it with your reply please.
 
Hope to read from you. Have a wonderful and productive day.
 
Kindest Regards.
 
wendy vincent
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From: "janeparker49@aol.com" <janeparker49@aol.com>
To: creelrealty@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:20:13 AM
Subject: $1950 Executive Lease - Fully Furnished (Newcastle, WA.) (map) ----------------


Hello
How are you doing today?I'm Jane and 26 yrs I saw your advert on craigslist and am interested in been  your roommate.Do you still have it available? please get back to me ASAP Thanks

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From: Jarry John jarryjohn33@yahoo.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 7:48:23 AM
Subject: am intrested

attn: i am interested in renting your Room and i am willing to pay whatever amount you are willing to collect for the Room.i won't be able to come by to see the place but Heres a little info about myself.

I am sandra martins,i am 29 years old,Am a Female Single.I am originaly from North Carolina but presently in W/Africa ,i hold a degree in BUSINESS AND RESOURCES MANAGEMENT FROM THE METROPOLITAN UNIVERSITY IN LONDON U.K,i worked for two years in UK before leaving for West Africa where i am at present with my mum who is on a missionary project here.

Consequent to this and in order to make arramgment in easier and quicker i am searching for Timeshare early and i saw your add on the web and i want to make a reservation for your timeshare.I can assure you that you will not have any regrets letting out this Room to me.

I am a quiet person and can get along well with any body,i am coming over alone,with no family or pets,i do not smoke and i drink very lightly.Please reply me as soon as you read this email.You can contact me via email.(sandra_martins2000@hotmail.com)...and if you have a yahoo messenger please feel free to add me to your list....Hope to hear from you soon....


regards

(Sandra Martins I've run into before while trying to rent property-see below)
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From: Sandra Martins <sandra34456@yahoo.com>
Sent: Mon, 3 Sep 2007 6:11 pm
Subject: I need a room/Things to know about the place

Hi There,
                           
           How re you doing? I hope all is well. I'm Sandra Martinez, am 26 yrs old and Am originally from Barcelona, Spain . Graduate of Huelva University on the Costa de la Luz , I have a master degree in  interior fashion and I work as a professional fashion designer. I moved to Phoenix , AZ two year ago for work and that's where am living.

I'm am not in the states right now, i am presently in West africa . I am currently working on contract for a company call (African Family Home Fashions) here in West Africa ( Nigeria ) which the contract will be ending soon. I will be returning to the states in two weeks time and I don't want to go back to my where am living in Phoenix because my house rent has expired there. I enjoy traveling, It is very interesting to get more knowledge about the new countries, new people and traditions. It's great to have such a possibility. As i was searching through the web i saw the advert of your room.

I would like to know maybe it's still available becasue i'm extremely interested in it. Here are the questions i would like to know about the room before planing to move in to the following questions below:
 
A}I will like to know the major intersection nearest your neighbourhood.like shopping mall,Churches,bus line e.t.c
 
B}I will like to know the total cost for the my initial move as in first month rent and if you accept deposit.
C}I will like to know if there is any garage or parking space cos I will have my own car come over.
 
D}I will like to have the rent fee per month plus the utilities.
E}I will like to have the description of the room, size, and the equipments in there.
 
F}I will also like to know Your payment mode.
G}I will like to know if I can make an advance payment ahead my arrival that will be stand as a kind of commitment that I am truely coming over and for you to hold the room down for me.


I will be very glad to have all this questions answered with out leaving a stone unturned...
 
Now a little about myself;I am from Barcelona, Spain : that means i am Spanish and had all my education in Spain . I am 26yrs old and very much single,the only child of my only parent,my mother alive, i lost my father and my only brother years ago while i was still a kid in an auto accident.I am currently living with my mom who's a catholic volunteer worker,but also manages her antique business.

She is a volunteer at the sister's of the eucharistic heart of jesus convent,here in Barcelona , Spain . I have been wanted to relocated to the US longtime ago even while i was a little girl growing up and my mom is in support.It' been a long dreamed come true for me when i finnally settled in the US now. I have chosen your city for me to live when i arrive. I am easy to get along with and well mannered.

I do not use people's items without permission and consideration. Kindly get back to me ASAP with the your monthly rent and the deposit i need to pay to enable you turn down other interested parties and keep the place for me until i arrive,because i will like to pay for the deposit before my arrival and i will like to know the total amount the rent for a whole year would be,as i am more interested in a long term lease,but still open to any form of lease you want. But i will like to pay the deposit first of all before i arrive to show my seriousness and so that you can hold the place for me until i arrive.

I am single as i said and i am not attached to anyone at the moment. I do part time modeling; i call myself an amateur though,LOL,just something i take as a hobby and also i have a masters degree in interior fashion which i bagged from the Huelva University on the Costa de la Luz in Spain . I will be looking to pick up Fashion Designer jobs once i arrive in ur city, Fashion Designer is my life and i love it. I am new living all alone as i have lived with my mom alone in the past but i have no doubs in my mind about my ability to live peacefully with as i was raised to be a lover of peace.

A friend just introduced me to this thing and i really wish that i am able to find the good cultured kind of Place i am looking for here. I hope i am doing it right anyways.LOL. Well,i think we will get along well because am a easy going person who respects ones privacy,like i said i dont do drugs or smoke but i drink only occasionally,i strongly believe there will be any problems living with me as i was raised by strong catholic Christain parents and have inbibed such good qualities from childhood.

I will love to see your pics and those of the place as well.I'll be so glad if you can reserve the room for me and remove all your the adverts abt the place as i'll love to rent the place. Get back to me ASAP
 
Thanks and have a good time.


Warmest Regards,
Sandra

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As you can see, it just never ends. It's the closest thing to a job these people have. I read a blog awhile back that made me laugh. The writer said that any agent not advertising their clients properties on craigslist was doing a disservice to their client. Thats funny.

05/04/2008 08:17 PM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


Thank you all, for this web-site and sharing your experience about scammers.

Today I've got a scam from Mike Lexy.It is very similar to the story provided here by Michelle. I didn't want to play game with this scammer, so I've just responded that I would not deal with his cheque, etc.

Here you can read what kind of scam I've got on my simple advertisment for appartment rent. May be it could help to somebody to avoid having deal with this kind of scammers!!!!

"Hello larisa,
     I got your mail. Thanks for geting back to me so quick and I am extremely interested in ur property and i don't want you to rent it out to any other person,You seem to be a very good and nice person. I want you to know that i'm a very straight forward and honest person.Contrary to payment,all my expenses including house rent will be taken care of my the company .Be advised that my company manager will be effecting payment with a certified cashier check drawn from a US bank worth $6,400(which is a relocation grant from my employment and i have decided to use it for the deposit, to book for my flight back to the states).You will then have to deduct an initial deposit of $749.00(which is the move in cost).You will have to forward the excess funds on the check to My Traveling Agent, I will be paying ahead my arrival for a month, which is very important and that will secure the Place for me, and as soon as I arrive others important things will be taken care of before moving in the Place.
So i will inform him to issue out the check to you, so that the check can stand as the payment for the property.
All you need to do now is to send me your details Below:
 
FULL NAME TO BE ON CHECK:
CONTACT ADDRESS WITH YOUR ZIP CODE:
PHONE NUMBER :
YOUR NEAREST AIRPORT:
 
so that i can forward it to my company manager who will issue the check out to you.As soon as i get these info i requested for, i will forward them to my company manage immediately. As soon as you recieve the check you will deduct your move-in cost ($749.00)out of it you will now help me forward the remaning balance to my traveling Agent so that i can use it to book for my flight back to the states.
I just want to make sure i get the room before i get back to the state. I will like stay there for a year even more that till when i will have my own personal place but I will prefer a year lease.
 
Check below for my referral ,My current landlord ,you can ask him about my rental history
and behavior :
 
Name: williams cole
zip code SA14 8BE
Email:lexymike@yahoo.com
 
Employment Verification:
Wen Consultants Ltd.
The company's web site is under construction for update and it will be unvieled on 01 of April
2008.
Wen Saint
Cell 1:  (+44) 7033260111
 (+44) 7031917677
(+44) 7031827081
My Informations.
Full Name: Lexy Mike
Zip code 14 8BE
Age:45
Drinking: No
Pets: No
Date of birth: 10th of Oct 1962
Socially Marital Status: Married
Children: I have no kids
Religion: Christianity
Occupation: Estate Consultant
Phone:Cell 1: +44 70 45 744484
Cell 2:  + 44 703 195 7888
Am cool headed and easy going person with no criminal record and i like to have a roommate or neighbor's who is very responsible and understanding,someone i can really get a long. As soon as you get this mail pls get back to me with the info i requested for so that every thing can be done fast.
Take care and I will be looking forward to hear from you soon.
Thanks and have a good time.
Warmest Regards,"

05/12/2008 12:05 PM by Larisa


You Saved Me!! Thank You!

Here is the scam that I almost fell for until I saw that the guy was going to send me money and wanted me do do odd things with it for him. I thought I should check it out and yup it was the same scam. Starting with the most recent email I copied the dialogue below.

 

Oh Sorry Sirs, I am actually going to rent the apartment to my friend who works for the Government, splitting his time between the FBI and Interpol. He has already paid me. Good Luck Gettin Rich, Justin From: geo_willis@hotmail.com

To: justin4t@msn.com Subject: details... Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 12:30:35 +0000 Hello.. Thanks for the details on the house. I am a supervisor of a local construction company in Wales which specialises in construction of companies and houses.I am sent over to states to study Construction and house development so to improve our standard.I like you reserve the place for me upon my arrival . Contrary to payment,all my expenses including house rent will be taken care of my the company .Be advised that my manager will be effecting payment with a certified cashier check drwan from a US bank worth $6,000(which is a relocation grant from my employment and i have decided to use it for the deposit, interiordecoration and getting furnitures for the place).You will then have to deduct an initial deposit of $867 (which is the move in cost).All subsequent monthly rent would be paid by me in cash. You will have to forward the excess funds on the check to the interior decorator(who will be responsible for shipping of furnitures, electrical appliances and other personal luggages). I hope this is clear between us? mail me back with your details: your full name to be written on check: Address to send to: Your cell phone number Below are my full details : Name: younces Kes Current Address:35 Ynys Wen Booth House, Felinfoel Llanelli SA14 8BE Age:39 Marital status:Married Profession: Estates Consultant Sex:Male Phone :+44-702-408-4960 009-44-702-408-4960 Check below for my referal ,he his my current landlord ,you can ask him about my rental history and behaviour : Name: George Honson Same Address:35 Ynys Wen Booth House, Felinfoel Llanelli SA14 8BE Email:gleslie443@yahoo.com And also this is my Employer Contact information : Wen Consultants Ltd. Wendel Lazo 009 703 401 3193 sdll95@yahoo.com I'm a Gentleman,dont smoke.. Your response will be appreciated. Regards.

From: justin4t@msn.com To: geo_willis@hotmail.com Subject: RE: $867 / 2br - Luxury 2BR 2BA, ShortTerm, 1st Month Free (North Austin) (map) Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 23:28:32 +0000 1. 3rd floor, vaulted ceilings, 2BR 2BA, 1124sf, view of cattle ranch from balcony, swimming pools and full amenities, clean, bright, safe area, close to Mopac & Toll-45 & La Frontera Shopping Center etc. 2. $867 3. The Preserve at Rollling Oaks located ... 15450 FM 1325 Austin Tx 78728 (close to everything North Austin) 4. Move in June 1st 2008 and stay until 9/21/2008 or longer 5. Pictures are listed on Craigs List 6. I own the lease but will be able to add you once you visit the complex office and are qualified through their standard leasing proceedure Kindly Get back to me ASAP I can't write these responses fast enough... the apartment is gaining a lot of attention, let me know what you would like to do Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 16:13:56 -0700 From: geo_willis007@yahoo.com Subject: $867 / 2br - Luxury 2BR 2BA, ShortTerm, 1st Month Free (North Austin) (map)

To: justin4t@msn.com Hello, I will like to know if the property you listed is still avaliable.If yes. pls do give me the following information. 1.A brief discription of the apartment 2.Cost for one month rental + Deposit? 3.Location of the apartment 4.Your available date to move in? 5.Do send me the pictures for proper viewing sine am not in the state. 6.Let me know if you are the owner and about your lease agreement and also i will fill the application after i arrive in the state. kindly get back to me before the end of the day.

05/18/2008 09:30 AM by Justin


Glad to help. Here is a recent from a scammer that sent the check last week and never heard back from me:

----- Original Message ----
From: Sarah Moak <shongatzzz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 10:09:42 AM
Subject: CHEQUE/PAYMENT DELIVERED ( RENT ) !

Good Morning,
 
How are you doing today and hope you having a cool weekend ? Was just kind of worried when i look up to my emails all the time without a message from you. ll really appreciate if you can update me with the situation of things. I will be expecting a reply today please, OK.
 
Have Fun !
Sarah Moak.

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----- Original Message ----
From: CreelRealty <creelrealty@yahoo.com>
To: Sarah Moak <shongatzzz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 11:59:33 AM
Subject: Re: CHEQUE/PAYMENT DELIVERED ( RENT ) !

I'm so sorry luv, didn't hear from you from so long, and didn't receive a check in a timely manner, so I rented the room to someone else. I can mail your check back to you.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Sarah Moak <shongatzzz@hotmail.com>
To: CreelRealty <creelrealty@yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 1:32:36 PM
Subject: RE: CHEQUE/PAYMENT DELIVERED ( RENT ) !

Hi,
 
I understand your plight and immediately you receive the cheque, deduct what you have lost and have my remaining money sent to me via western union as explained. I am very sorry for the pain caused and i hope thats Ok by you.
 
Thanks,
Sarah.

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From: CreelRealty <creelrealty@yahoo.com>
To: Sarah Moak <shongatzzz@hotmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 10:52:41 AM
Subject: Re: CHEQUE/PAYMENT DELIVERED ( RENT ) !

Well Sarah, I don't really see a need for all that trouble. I'll just return the check to you and we can call it even. I'm simply to busy to go to Western Union, after all, your the one that delayed and caused the trouble. Keep in mind, I don't know you, or work for you. You've really imposed on me quite enough, so I'll merely mail the check back. 
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05/18/2008 10:55 AM by Michael Creel (Brio Realty Inc.)


On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:11 PM, Weaser Kent <littlewhite122@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hello,
 
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will like to go ahead with the renting process,i will like you to go ahead and please reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following informations so that the check for payment of the deposit $2900 can be processed and posted to you soon.
 
FULL NAME TO BE ON CHECK:.......................
CONTACT ADDRESS WITH YOUR ZIP CODE:.............
PHONE NUMBER :.............................

......
YOUR NEAREST AIRPORT:..........................
 
I will also want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the property,they will as well be incharge of moving down my luggages down to the states.
So the check of $8600 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the deposit $2900 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
 
Also for familiarization I am Weaser Kent,I am 45 yrs of age,a British citizen,I work with Wen Consultants Ltd. (UK), as a Estate Consultant, I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don't keep pets.
 
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach my at this number Phone: Cell 1: +44 703 190 0802
+ 44 703 190 0807
 
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Name: Kolo Miguel
Same Address35 Ynys Wen Booth House, Felinfoel Llanelli SA14 8BE
Email:kolomiguel@yahoo.com
 
Cheers

05/27/2008 09:36 PM by SPAM for a rental


I received this mail for my propery rental AD

Weaser Kent <littlewhite122@hotmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
 
Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will like to go ahead with the renting process,i will like you to go ahead and please reserve the property for me.
So i will be needing the following informations so that the check for payment of the deposit $3590 can be processed and posted to you soon.
 
FULL NAME TO BE ON CHECK:.......................
CONTACT ADDRESS WITH YOUR ZIP CODE:.............
PHONE NUMBER :...................................
YOUR NEAREST AIRPORT:..........................
 
I will also want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the property,they will as well be incharge of moving down my luggages down to the states.
So the check of $8900 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the deposit $3590 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as i arrive.
 
Also for familiarization I am Weaser Kent,I am 45 yrs of age,a British citizen,I work with Wen Consultants Ltd. (UK), as a Estate Consultant, I am a Christian, reserved in Nature, Non smoker also i don't keep pets.
 
I look forward to meeting you and hope to have a good relationship as a tenant with you.
I await the details.
you can reach my at this number Phone: Cell 1: +44 703 190 0802
+ 44 703 190 0807
 
Below is my present landlords information for reference :
Name: Kolo Miguel
Same Address35 Ynys Wen Booth House, Felinfoel Llanelli SA14 8BE
Email:kolomiguel@yahoo.com
 
Cheers

05/27/2008 10:49 PM by Pramod Patil


I also received this same e-mail from Weaser Kent.. Thanks for this blog...very helpful

05/28/2008 09:51 AM by me too


I also received the same e-mail from Weaser Kent. His name should be WEASEL not Weaser.  Thanks for this blog. 

06/11/2008 11:41 AM by Ditto


Thanks for the details on the Property, i am satisfied and will like to go ahead with the renting process,i will like you to go ahead and please reserve the property for me. So i will be needing the following informations so that the check for payment of the deposit $2400 can be processed and posted to you soon.

FULL NAME TO BE ON CHECK:....................... CONTACT ADDRESS WITH YOUR ZIP CODE:............. PHONE NUMBER :................................... YOUR NEAREST AIRPORT:..........................

I will also want to notify you that i have in the mean time arrange with an interior decorator who will be handling the purchase of furnitures,entertainment system and other appliances that i will need in the property,they will as well be incharge of moving down my luggages down to the states. So the check of $7900 will be sent over to you which is a relocation grant by my employer, and all you need to do is deduct the deposit $2400 and you will forward the rest to the Decorators so i can have the place all prepared for my arrival. All applications and lease will be signed as soon as i arrive. Also for familia