Many have posted on Active Rain about the virtues of advertising on Craigslist. In my last count there were over one hundred posts on this topic and the vast majority talk about its advantages. I'm here to say you need to be careful when you advertise your listing on Craigslist. Why? Because, Craigslist is fast turning into the red light district of the Internet. As the New York Times reported last week:

"Craigslist has become the high-tech 42nd Street, where much of the solicitation takes place now," said Richard McGuire, Nassau's assistant chief of detectives. "Technology has worked its way into every profession, including the oldest."

In July raids, the sheriff of Cook County, Ill., rounded up 43 women working on the streets - and 60 who advertised on Craigslist. In Seattle, a covert police ad on Craigslist in November resulted in the arrests of 71 men, including a bank officer, a construction worker and a surgeon.

And while prostitutes also advertise on other sites, the police here and across the country say Craigslist is by far the favorite. On one recent day, for example, some 9,000 listings were added to the site's "Erotic Services" category in the New York region alone: Most offered massage and escorts, often hinting at more.

Playing in the swampWhy do agents need to keep this in mind? Well, because you don't want to be advertising in a swamp if you're not looking for flies. Craigslist might give you great exposure and help you prove to your clients that you're doing some on-line marketing, but in the long run you've got to ask yourself where you want to be found. 

You don't need a degree to know that in marketing perception is reality. In most cases the medium used to convey the message defines the messenger. In Real Estate the product is the agent. The house is a by-product. An agent attracts the type of buyer he or she seeks. So, this begs the question: What kind of product are you? Do you want to work with Shrek or Lord Farquaad?

Lani, over at RE Revealed raises the exact same issueon her blog, and I agree with her:

The only problem is that most of us don't venture past the "housing" section of Craigslist to know that one of the most popular draws of Craigslist is the "personals" section. It is common knowledge that Craigslist's success began with the "personals" and "for sale" sections. Some of the personals range from questionable to pornographic. Looking to buy a ball-gag wearing bedroom slave? Look no further than the famed Craigslist.

That's great for those in the market for a slave, but did you even know that the same venue you post clients' homes on is used for this purpose?

Let's review this again, in case you skimmed over the beginning of this post, again from the New York Times:

Law enforcement officials ask why Craigslist even includes Erotic Services among its 191 categories. Mr. Buckmaster, the company president, said the site created that category "at the request of our users" for legitimate massage, escorts and exotic dancers.

The bottom line is you use Craigslist at your own risk and as far as listing Real Estate, it's a business decision. More specifically it's a market positioning decision.Whether you want your face on a sale sign next to the local De Ja Vu Club or not is up to you and maybe based on the house you have to sell. This may get you some additional traffic, but when was the last time traffic paid the bills? This is something many agents really understand and a few posts have pointed out.

Read my take on Cragslist and MySpace here, at the Arizona Mortgage Gurublog.

 

27 Comments on Craigslist: The Swamp of the Internet. Why Would You EVER Advertise There?

SEP
10
2007

OK... using this logic, we should not do ANY web advertising since 80% of the web is adult websites.  I think most educated consumers are aware of the pitfalls of the good old WWW. Yes, there is a lot of garbage out there but it can also be a great way to expose your properties to potential consumers.

5:11pm • #1
i have to disagree with you on this one.  Craigslist to me is a great for direct marketing and post new listings, post new products and not to mention to excise in your face marketing.  Craigslist is an easy and great way to get your face out there
5:15pm • #2
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I agree, with Nichols/Ersery team, by that logic we should all stay away from the internet.  The internet is merely a tool, and I seriously doubt someone would be thinking "where can I get a prostitute and  a 3 bed 2 bath in the same place? Craigslit, why didn't I think of that before."
5:25pm • #3
I get a ton of hits from CL
5:31pm • #4

I have been very successful with Craigs list as well, and have family members who have sold farm equipment and other household items as well.

I have not attempted, nor to I anticipate the need to sell services on Craigs List,

 

other than real estate. (had to clarify that)

It also depends on the market you are attempting to go after, I for one will continue using them.

5:41pm • #5

I respect your opinion on this site, but I will continue to use it.  The benefits far out way the risk of someone looking to buy property stumbling into the 'porno' section. 

I live in Myrtle Beach and sold a duplex int New York State through Craigslist.  It is a site that works for realtors.

5:46pm • #6
The two realtors that I work for sold 687 homes last year and they use CL for every listing.  My neighbor found her home on CL when moving from MO to TX.  With over 14 million unique visitors a month, and being the largest online advertising avenue in the world, it is too good to not use.  "Ugly" is everywhere, and if we abandon everywhere that ugly is, where would we go?
Karen Souther
6:05pm • #7

I've got to go with everyone else on this one, especially the first poster.  The argument not to use Craigslist because of some of the content doesn't hold water - a high percentage of internet content belongs in the "red light district" but it is the future, and is the way that more and more consumers are conducting business.

Craigslist is a great resource - it's free, easy to use, and helps your site in the search engine rankings.

10:14pm • #8
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I have received calls from Craigslist about the properties that I have listed there.  I have never received an "adult type" call.  And if I did, I'd just hang up.
10:28pm • #9
Craigslist is a great site.  I heard that it was one of the most visited sites on the net.  Might as well use it.  In my newspaper, there are personal ads there too! 
10:29pm • #10
SEP
11
2007

Looks like you are in the minority, and I would have to agree with the others her voting for Craigs list.  I don't care what other people sell it who calls on my ads that I care about.  I think morals are good but I also think that sometimes the concept is taken too far.

So you don't and we will, hmmm I wonder who will have the sales?

3:26am • #11
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Craiglist is just one of many Internet venues which offers exposure. It is about getting exposure and that is one reason it is used.
6:03am • #12
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Well, it is certainly clear that I am in the minority. I've already made my point so I don't really want to rehash anything right now.

Great points!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

Shailesh

11:15am • #13

I agree with you when it comes to Myspace. Even though people have made contacts and sold homes using the social networking site I just don't want to be associated with a site with such a bad reputation. It's just not professional.

I viewed one real estate agent's Myspace page and even though he's married and a father some of his "friends" left much to be desired so if I was looking for an agent I would steer away from him.

 

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3:20pm • #14
Craig's list is free and never hurts to put listings there.  Why not do the 5 minute posting?!
4:22pm • #15
SEP
12
2007

There is "good" and "bad" in everything. I don't believe that one bad apple makes the (good) bunch bad.

Why would I stop using the housing classifieds if they are generating leads for me!

Do I stop reading the newspaper because they advertise strip clubs? Do I stop using the Internet because it has pornographic sites?

What it boils down to is: Does Craigslist make me money or cost me money?

If implemented correctly, Craigslist and MySpace can generate leads and traffic. 

9:59pm • #16
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13
2007
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I have much closed business from CL.  I have never been called or emailed to perform a massage or erotic dancing ~ yet.
1:36pm • #17
SEP
19
2007
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I have to agree with the other's.  Mostly,  I would be doing my clients a disservice if I didn't put their listing on CraigsList.  Closings from CL leads is a regular thing in my market. 
10:50am • #18
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I have not sold any listings on CL but have recd calls for rentals. I was not aware of other info.
1:11pm • #19
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I tend to agree with you. I've been thinking about the very same thing but never made the final decision. You're right. But it is free and from time to time we get calls from the site.
11:01pm • #20
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23
2007
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I love craigsllist.  I have also closed business from there, and hope to get a lot more.  But, I respect your decision not to use it and think you have a valid point!  
8:24pm • #21
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Let's see... internet... millions of porn site and ads for "erotic services".

Billboards... ads for strip clubs and other questionable businesses. 

Phone book?... nope, massage, escort and strip club ads.  

What's left?   

Feel free to not advertise in any of these places.  Those of us that have learned to point our computers at the specific information we are looking for will continue to work with others that have found the same skill. 

9:34pm • #22
Its worked for us.... but I see some agents abusing it with illegal postings (no listings just solisitations)... over and over and over... and this is sooo annoying. Gives us all a bad name.
10:14pm • #23
SEP
24
2007
Jill & Ron, That is why I flag and encourage others to flag posts that don't belong. Craigslist is an excellent free resource and we are given the opportunity to keep it clean.
6:21am • #24

I had my concerns when I first posted on Craigslist and after reading this, I think I'll delete my add.  

12:58pm • #25

Entertaining post I gave it a 5. I have been tring to tell people about the downsides to craigslist for awhile, but I never put it as well as you. I especally like this quote: You don't want to be advertising in a swamp if you're not looking for flies. Seems like craigslist will gives a low quality lead for the most part.

5:40pm • #26
SEP
25
2007
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Shailesh, I'm going to have to disagree with you on this one.  Whenever one advertises on the internet, they risk exposure to "folks of questionable morals".  That being said, I have had some success with Craigslist and plan on continuing to use it...
4:05pm • #27

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