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62 Comments on Why Is There Frost In My Attic?
Reuben, thanks for the info on frost in the attic. My brother lived in St. Paul for about 3 years with his family. He could not take the cold...so they moved back to Texas. I guess it's all what you're used to. :)
Thanks Dustin.
Chris - I'm sure the more humidity in your home, the healthier you'll be and the less healthy your house will be.
Mike - I heard somewhere that Mariah Carey uses dozens of humidifiers and had a waterproof steam room built for her bedroom.
George - I bet you'll sound like an old pro. You'll be able to wax on the negative impacts of attic bypasses!
Cynthia - you say you're kidding, but heck, I agree with you.
Marte - rain on top of snow? Yuck, what a mess. That's only supposed to happen in the spring.
Jeremy - I don't know about Ashland, but Bemidji... yeah, that's damn cold. Even for me.
Lyn - the most frequent comment I hear from homeowners about their attic is "I've never been up there!"
Dennis & Terri - oh man, you're not kidding. It really doesn't take a long time for the brutal cold to get old.
Gene - I don't think there is such a thing as "Icey 40's" (ha ha)
Sonja - I can't say I blame your brother. After living here long enough, I've come to realize that Minnesotans actually enjoy complaining about the weather.
Excellent post! I've lived my entire life (almost) in chilly areas, and the past 11 years at 4200 feet elevation... therefore quite cold as early as September. We bring in our tomatoes that month, and this year we had the better part of 2' of snow by Thanksgiving. Back to the subject... I've never heard of frosty attics! I will have to check with local inspectors to see what they have to say about it.
Thanks so much!
Victoria
Hi Reuben: Frost in the attaic is not something we ever have to worry about in Woodland Hills, California. Your information is very useful for home preservation in many parts of the country. Wishing you much success in 2011. All your referals for southern California buyers and sellers are much appreciated.
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Reuben,
My 110 years old Victorian house still leaks air in a thousand different places. Almost impossible to seal these guys entirely. Strangely enough in many cases this is why there are still around. They dry out fairly rapidly from internal or external sources of moisture due to the air movement.
For the many more modern home than mine, great information.
I have heard that the idea humidity level in a home are between 25 and 45%. Lower than 25% tends to be uncomfortable for us while higher than 45% can encourage mold growth. I would guess that the closer to 25% we can get the better for mold and other humidity related problems..
Haha! I thought only Buffalonians were crazy enough to wear shorts when it's snowing! Yet another reason why I don't like whole-house humidifiers; reason #1 is the common problem of them leaking on, and therefore rusting heat exchangers.
Victoria - let me now what your local inspectors say.
Bandele - you're lucky you don't have to worry about this kind of thing. BTW, that's one heck of a signature.
Marshall - those old houses perform very well when they get wet; they just cost a ton of money to heat. How's your heating bill? People say it's not 'green' to have a house that leaks that much air, but you could always tell 'em it's not 'green' to have houses rot and have to re-build them.
Julie - no, Buffanonians don't have the market cornered on 'crazy'! I agree, humidifiers either leak or are going to leak.
Reuben, it is way to cold where you live. Burrrrrrr! I know we have a lot of problems here in California but I am sooo glad it is not as cold. Our skin here is way tooo thin. Great post.
What a fantastic article. I had not thought about how this occurs. I have just been reading about insufficient insulation in the attic, whic is of course another story. I will book mark this and share later. Than you Reuben. Margaret C.
DeeDee - Don't get me started on the weather. It's currently -0 degrees outside with a wind chill of -22, and we just got 17 inches of snow yesterday. I was supposed to be going to the Vikings vs. Giants game today, but they actually cancelled it because of the weather. At least we have something to talk about...
Margaret - thanks. After getting 17 inches of snow last night, I started thinking about why I'm so insistent that ventilation won't do anything to alleviate frost in attics. I base my stance on experience; I've seen zero correlation between frost problems and good / bad ventilation in attics, but I really haven't taken snow into account. When roof vents are covered with a foot of snow, they might as well not exist.
Nice post Reuben.
Lots of interesting responses. It has been my experience along with formal training that indeed poor ventilation and improper underlayment are the main causes for frost in an attic. Many seem to think it is normal to have frost in the attic during the winter, however it really isn't and if there is frost in the attic, somethings not quite right. I live in Indiana and today is -5, no frost in my attic.
Just sayin.
This is a good explanation. Moist air is never a good idea in any attic.
Doug - thanks. I don't think we've met; I'm sure we'll chat later.
MC2 - I've had the same formal training that says poor ventilation is the main cause for frost in an attic, but I pay close attention to this stuff at every inspection. Despite what the textbooks say, I've found zero correlation between ventilation and frost. It's all about attic air leakage. It sounds like your attic must be sealed up tight.
Tigard - agreed.
Inspected a house yesterday with a brand new roof. There are three bathroom vents that vent directly into the attic! The seller tried to convince me that his roofer vented all the bathroom vents through the roof! I love my camera at times like these!
Hank - how can anyone argue about that? "Your roofer put them through the roof? Show me."
Make sure bath and kitchen exhaust fans discharge to the exterior instead of into the attic so you don't add moisture to the attic from those locations.
Bruce - those are a couple of the largest bypasses I can think of.
Great tips Reuben! I think a lot of people fail to turn on the exhaust fans during and after showers.
High moisture in the home and attic could also lead to mold, which I find alot in attics with poor ventilation.