Are Stated Income Loans Illegal In Nevada? NO! A Letter From Our Mortgage Lending Division Commissioner

I have gotten a lot of calls in the last few weeks from very nervous real estate agents who have asked me if stated income loans will become illegal in Nevada as of October 1, 2007 when the new Nevada Lending Law goes into effect.    

Others have told them that they will be illegal and they are panicked.

These agents are wondering if they need to start looking for other careers as stated income loans are so prevalent in our city due to the number of "tipped" employees we have.

The answer in "NO!"  Stated income loans are not illegal and will not become illegal when Assembly Bill 440 (Nevada Lending Law) goes into effect on October 1, 2007.

In a letter dated, Thursday September 13, 2007 to all Mortgage Banker and Broker Licensees from Joseph L. Waltuch, Commissioner of the Mortgage Lending Division in Nevada, he confirmed this.   

Here are some parts of his letter.  

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EXCERPTS FROM THE LETTER FROM COMMISSIONER WALTUCH:

The Mortgage Lending Division (the "Division") has become aware that there exists some confusion amongst licensees regarding certain amendatory language to the new Nevada Lending Law.

Effective October 1, 2007 it will be an unfair lending practice for a lender to:

"(b) Knowingly or intentionally make a home loan, other than a reverse mortgage, to a borrower, including, without limitation, a low-document home loan, no-document home loan or stated-document home loan, without determining, using any commercially reasonable means or mechanism, that the borrower has the ability to repay the home loan."

Many licensees have expressed concern as to the meaning of "commercially reasonable means or mechanism" in the context of determining that the borrower has the ability to repay the home loan.

This does not prohibit specific mortgage products or types of documentation that may be utilized in the making or underwriting of home loans.

Instead, the new law recognizes, and specifically defines, "low-document", "stated-document" and "no-document" home loans.

What all of these definitions have in common is that they specifically pertain to the borrower establishing his or her ability to repay a home loan, in other words, what income and asset documentation, if any, the borrower may submit to prove his or her ability to repay.

These definitions do not address the lender's obligation to verify the accuracy of the information the borrower has submitted or otherwise determine the borrower's ability to repay.

The Division believes it means that licensees must inquire into a borrower's current and future income and financial status, but without dictating what specific methods must be utilized as long as they are reasonable and frequently used within the lending community.

Licensees should meet with their borrowers [that means all borrowers obligated on the particular loan] in person, over the telephone, or in other ways where personal contact is achieved, and discuss their economic situation, including their employment, credit history, current sources and amounts of income and assets, and the likelihood of any of these items changing [up or down] in the reasonably foreseeable future. While no particular time span is contemplated, for purposes of this guidance, the reasonably foreseeable future should at least encompass a time span past the first adjustment date of a variable rate home loan.

Licensees must verify the information that the borrowers provide. The Division recognizes that there are some general sources, such as Salary.com or the Department of Labor, which may be utilized to verify income in those situations where verification of employment, pay stubs or tax returns are not utilized.

Licensees who in good faith complete this worksheet, or a similar worksheet that properly documents the discussions and verifications, for all home loans funded on or after October 1, 2007 will be deemed for examination purposes to be in compliance with the "commercially reasonable means or mechanism" provisions of the new law.

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The Commissioner also presented a worksheet that the Division recommends that all brokers and bankers use on lower documentation loans.   It looks like this:

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THE RECOMMENDED WORKSHEET FROM THE DIVISION:  

To the Borrower: Commencing October 1, 2007 Nevada Revised Statute 598D.100 requires the mortgage broker or mortgage banker named below to use any "commercially reasonable means or mechanism" to verify that you have the ability to repay the home loan for which you are applying.

There is no requirement that you enter into any proposed loan transaction even though you may have submitted an application to the broker/banker. Be sure that all of the terms set forth below are accurate and that you agree to them.

To be completed by Borrower [complete as applicable]:

The purpose of this loan is to _____ purchase a home or _____ refinance a current home loan.

The loan is a _____ fixed rate or _____ adjustable interest rate loan.

My monthly pre-tax income is $____________. I _____have or _____have not submitted pay stubs or tax returns to the mortgage broker/banker as proof of this income.

The mortgage broker/mortgage banker has discussed with me:

_____ My overall economic situation

_____ My employment, including length of time on job and prospects for its continuation in the

future

_____ My credit history and credit score

_____ My current sources and amounts of income and assets, and the likelihood of any of these

items changing [up or down] in the reasonably foreseeable future

_____ The information required on my loan application

_____ That if I have applied for an adjustable rate loan, the interest rate may increase and my

monthly payments may go up substantially on and after the first change date

_____ Other: List ______________________________________________________

I certify under penalty of perjury that I have the financial ability to repay the loan I have applied for. I have carefully reviewed any and all rate loan disclosures that have been provided to me, and agree that even if the interest rate on my adjustable rate loan increases and my monthly payments increase as result, I can still afford to repay the loan.

_____________________ _____________________ ______________________

Borrower Signature/Date Borrower Signature/Date Borrower Signature/Date

To be completed by mortgage broker/mortgage banker:

This is a:

_____ Full document loan

_____ Low document loan

_____ No document loan

_____ Stated income loan

_____ Other [describe]_________________________________

I have verified the income amount provided by the Borrower by:

_____ Salary.com

_____ U.S. Department of Labor

_____ Other: specify [i.e. VOE, pay stubs] ________________________________

I have also discussed with the Borrower the items s/he has checked above, and have given him/her a completed copy of this worksheet.

I certify under penalty of perjury that the above is true and correct.

Name of Mortgage Broker/Banker: ____________________

License Number: ____________________

By:

Signature Date

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At the end of the day, this is a law meant to protect consumers from unethical loan officers who inflate the borrower's income to simply get a loan through, without the borrower's knowledge.  

These loan officers did not effective explain to the borrower the potential negative consequences of this action, and today, hundreds of thousands of foreclosures are occurring, in part, because of this.

This law allows for stated income loans but it also makes sure the borrower understands what he is stating and that he understands the terms of his loan.

I love the worksheet.  I think it protects, not only the consumer, but the loan officer as well from a client calling when his ARM adjusts to say "I didn't realize that would happen.  You didn't explain it properly."

It's a good law whose time has come and it will not impede your real estate business much, if at all. 

For consumers, I think this is great protection for you to ensure you get what you want and are not taken by an unethical loan officer.

This law will get rid of even more unethical loan officers.  Many of us have had our fill of them for a while as we now have to deal with the mess they left us. 

Some tough lessons have been learned in 2007.   This will help ensure they stay learned.

 

 
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12 Comments on Are Stated Income Loans Illegal In Nevada? NO! A Letter From Our Mortgage Lending Division Commissioner

Aaron, that worksheet is wonderful.  How simple and yet explanatory to the consumer, which begs the question "Why wasn't this done until now?".  Sometimes the simple things are the last things to be done.  Nice post Aaron.

09/15/2007 06:06 AM by Kris Wales-Macomb County MI Real estate (RE/MAX Advantage 1, Inc.)


Aaron:

Interesting post.  Good worksheet.  I like the borrower's signature on it.  More CYA.

09/15/2007 06:23 AM by ยป Bill Burress Nationwide Mortgage Originator


Aaron:  Thank you for the clarification.  I know I saw this explanation before but another agent told me last night that we are screwed because there will be "no more stated loans after Oct 1!"  I don't fully understand this law so I let him believe that there are no stated loans anymore :)

09/15/2007 08:01 AM by Renee Burrows - Las Vegas NV Real Estate (Nevada Realty Solutions)


My stated income loan in Las Vegas was locked until Oct 9...Wells Stated/Stated Express. Got a polite call telling me it MUST close by the end of the month, Wells is out of the stated income biz in Nev.

Is this why?

09/15/2007 09:43 AM by Janet Guilbault, California Mortgage Expert (Peregrine Lending Company)


Kris--- I agree with you.  The worksheet is great even if there werent this law.  I think many other LO's should consider using it.

Bill--- Thanks!  I agree.

Renee-- There are a lot of people in our city who think the same thing.  Someone misinterpreted this law and over-reacted.  Read my post to Janet below.

Janet--- Speaking of over-reacting, Wells Fargo did announce, based on their interpretation of this law, that they will no longer purchase stated income loans in the state of Nevada as of October 1.  

I am not sure how the Commissioner's clarification changes that for them at all but as of today that is their stance.

09/15/2007 10:47 AM by Aaron Gordon, Home Loan Consultant, Las Vegas, NV (Home Loan Consultant)


I love the work sheet, but I suspect the words: "(b) Knowingly or intentionally make a home loan, other than a reverse mortgage, to a borrower, including, without limitation, a low-document home loan, no-document home loan or stated-document home loan, without determining, using any commercially reasonable means or mechanism, that the borrower has the ability to repay the home loan." are an invitation to lawsuits in the near future. It sounds like a time to be carefull out there.

09/15/2007 11:14 AM by Jim Little, Your Sun City Arizona Realtor (Ken Meade Realty)


Thanks so much for the interpretation.  Who is going to inform the Banks, like Wells Fargo, with the Commissioner's letter.  I, too, have heard that many of the lenders are interpretting it incorrectly.

09/15/2007 11:34 AM by Cindy


Jim--- And those are the words that triggered that the rumors that stated income loans were now gone.  Some major banks, like Wells Fargo, have eliminated stated income loans on the broker side already because of that languange.   We do have to be very careful and consider all of the factors when granting a stated income loan.   If you state you make $10,000 per month but can't show 2 months reserves, its a problem.

Cindy--- Every licensee got that letter including Wells.  However, I am not sure that letter will be enough to change their position.  At the end of the day, the banks want to rely less on brokers until the market gets hot again.

09/15/2007 01:11 PM by Aaron Gordon, Home Loan Consultant, Las Vegas, NV (Home Loan Consultant)


Aaron

I've always used bank statements showing cash flow, rental agreements between family members, and even tax returns that show gross income, not net, that are never submitted to the lender/processor but kept on the left side of the file to cover my a**. and of course, I use client assets, and even pledged assets from family members.

I'll have to make time to meet up with you on my next business trip to Vegas.

09/16/2007 12:08 AM by Bill Nazur (Nazur Enterprises, Inc. & BAMG)


Bill--- That would be great.   I look forward to it!

09/18/2007 04:00 PM by Aaron Gordon, Home Loan Consultant, Las Vegas, NV (Home Loan Consultant)


I believe that the form is a good one but unfortunately the law missed an important issue. The legislation has and will hurt people that are borderline high risk to default. The fact that the DTI was not defined ie <> 50% etc.. it will curtail the number of borrowers that are trying to get out of a Sub-Prime loan. The legislation also will scare lenders from lending in Nevada and most importantly the ability to sell the loan in the secondary market and in the securitization world. Does anybody remember GAFLA in Georgia. S&P and Moody's refused to rate loans during the initial period and most lenders left the state and never came back, even after the legislation was revised.

09/21/2007 01:31 PM by Mike Ri


Mike--- You bring up some good points.  I don't think the law is as aggressive as its being interpreted.  However, I beileve some banks are using it as an excuse to get out of brokering stating income loans.

09/22/2007 09:42 AM by Aaron Gordon, Home Loan Consultant, Las Vegas, NV (Home Loan Consultant)


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