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In 2003 I pitched the idea of developing in Miami to a group of developers from New England.  The group had never heard of “pre-construction” selling and wanted to learn more. In the Northeast US, institutional investors have a higher level of confidence in demand statistics and are willing to put money into development without sales.  TO these developers, the idea of selling prior to building sounded like a dream.  Pre-construction is a relatively new concept.  Traditionally, first you build, then you sell.  Go to New York and you will find that this is the way condo development is done.  For example, the William Beaver House in Wall Street is nearing completion without having been 50% sold.  If you build it, they will come! However in Florida, demand is so speculative that banks are not willing to give construction loans without pre-sales.  If they come, then you build it.

 

In real estate people traditionally shop for property they can take possession of within 30 to 60 days. We live in a world where people are accustomed to instant gratification. In order to convince the public to buy a condo today only to take possession in several years, developers (in FL, NV, AZ and other highly fluid markets) must give an incentive.  In recent years, this came in the form of a discounted price.  Buy a pre-construction condo for 10%, - 20% less than the comparable property across the street. Today, this incentive is gone.  In the hottest markets across the country, especially in my Miami market, buyers can pick up a new condo (built 2004-2008) at lower prices than developers can afford to sell pre-construction condos for.  The market is upside down.  Until this boom’s inventory is absorbed, we will not see successful launches of new Miami pre-construction projects.

Paul Viau
Nova Scotia Real Estate Blog - Halifax, NS
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I was in Miami in Feb. for a GMAC Real Estate Conference. I witnessed the stalled projects scattered down towards South Beach. I kind of got the feeling you could get a great deal if you were in that market. Ha - A couple of guys from here bought condos down there in the last year - but they were more or less distress sales.
Sep 25, 2007 01:08 PM
Dmitri Olympiev
United Realty Group - Cooper City, FL
Great and smart blog - hands down!
Sep 28, 2007 01:00 PM
Barbara-Jo Roberts Berberi, MA, PSA, TRC - Greater Clearwater Florida Residential Real Estate Professional
Charles Rutenberg Realty - Clearwater, FL
Palm Harbor, Dunedin, Clearwater, Safety Harbor
Miami is so expensive now that more and more people are heading to the Gulf Coast -
Sep 29, 2007 12:36 AM
Bill and Bryan Sereny
Miami Beach, FL
Ultra Luxury Real Estate

Yes, Miami has been expensive but we are now seeing very low cost options popping up on the market.  Just this week I located a great high-floor 3-bed condo right on the bay in a new building - One Miami Condo - for $550,000.  Prices have greatly changed compared to 2005 prices when identical units sold in the $700's. Are their new waterfront condos available on the Gulf Coast under $375/sq ft?  Given that the cost of construction is virtually the same on the Gluf and Atlantic (less the cost of land) $375k/sq ft is likley as good as it gets on the Gulf.

Sep 29, 2007 01:46 AM
Mike Norvell Sr
Morris Williams Realty - Leesburg, FL
Norvell Consulting Group

OMG..

Nice posts and responces, but...When did $375. per sq foot become affordable???? For any that are interested, Lake County Fla has a lot to offer for much less than that, you can buy relative mansions or estate homes for that kind of money/

I guess its all relative.. Another plus is that we don't have the hurricane expsoure that coastal properties do, and we have a lower cost of living overall.

Sorry, but the cost per sq ft just sent me rocking.... Good luck and I wish you well with Miami Condo sales 

 

Oct 01, 2007 03:00 AM
Bill and Bryan Sereny
Miami Beach, FL
Ultra Luxury Real Estate

I'd be interested to know what the #/sq ft cost is for condos that have been built within the past 5 years.

 Affordability is completely relative!

Oct 01, 2007 04:57 AM
Jon Zolsky, Daytona Beach, FL
Daytona Condo Realty, 386-405-4408 - Daytona Beach, FL
Buy Daytona condos for heavenly good prices

Two things surprised me. First, we can get you $220-$240 psf for a brand new 3/3 gorgeous condo with wonderful views of the ocean / intracoastal. Resales in older condos of the 70s with outdated kitchens and bathrooms, are for $319 psf, and these brand new terrific condos are for $100 psf less. Bryan, we willl pay referral.

Lake county could be a wonderful place, but how come it is not Hurricane proof? The Hurricane system covers 600 -700 hundreds miles, and being inland is not everything. Charley hit Orlando hard in August 2004, and Orlando is inland. And look at coastal Daytona, the biggest hits were Donna in 1964 adn Charley in 2004, and both came from the West Coast. 

Oct 04, 2007 06:32 PM
Rishard Brown
RJE Consulting Inc. - Coral Gables, FL
speaking of incentives...one developer was giving away brand new mercedes-benz as a freebie for buying at pre-construction prices but needless to say that wasn't even a good enough freebie when the existing condos in the area are selling at a premium discount. I'm a commercial lender from Coral Gables and our market has slowed but we haven't seen the dramatic fall-out in values like the condo market.  
Oct 04, 2007 10:45 PM