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Check the legal description, it could make things interesting.

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Real Estate Agent with Eagles Wings Realty

We listed 2 beautiful pieces of property about 45 minutes from Montrose, Colorado last week. They are located above Blue Mesa reservoir in Gunnison county.

I got a call on it Saturday, an interested couple, they wanted more information. We were still doing some research on the plat and legal description and we found some irregularities that were pointed out by the owner on older women, she signed some documents and didn't know what they were, oh no what did you sign?

Here is the killer part, the Realtor that got here to sign the mystery papers told her not to worry and "you can trust me". She didn't read them, shame on everyone. 

Something to do with easements she replied. I will look into it I replied. I called my trusted title company-Land Title and they told me Cory (the manager) was in Gunnison doing some research at the courthouse.

Perfect, I called and left him a voicemail, he returned my call within a few minutes and I explained what was going on. Bingo, he pulls the warrenty and quit claim deeds has them in my hands 2 hours later and we start making phone calls.

Well after a hour with the county Assessor we find there has either been a Scribner error or we have a major problem. The legal description has a county road as part of the legal, not the county road that is on the plat. The road that is made reference to is 25 miles away. 

By the way the Saturday inquiry is a cash buyer that wants to write an offer, now waiting to see if we have access. We will have an interesting time today with the engineering firm that filed the plat and also chain of title to see if we can locate the error. This will prove to be an educational experience.

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Dan Quinn
The Eric Steart Group of Long & Foster Real Estate - Silver Spring, MD
Dan Quinn

Thanks for taking such good care of your clients and doing the research for them.  It is refreshing to hear stories like this where a realtor goes the extra mile.  So many people have no idea what they are signing because they don't read the documents and this can lead to a world of hurt.  Good luck Nick!

Jan 19, 2011 03:22 AM
Joan Zappa
Eagles Wings Realty - Montrose, CO
Professional treatment of our clients, brings awes

Mike, in Colorado the title commitment is the sellers responsibility, to deliver a property with no encumbrances and liens. We always ask for extended coverage to be provided for our buyers, also any unrecorded docs.

 

Dan, thanks for the encouragement. 

Jan 19, 2011 03:37 AM
Dr. Paula McDonald
Beam & Branch Realty - Granbury, TX
Granbury, TX 936-203-0279

Hey Nick - this is a timely post as things have been getting more and more scrutinized.  Having a good Title Company is so important.  I suggested this - it should be featured.  :)

Jan 19, 2011 03:38 AM
Dee Bundy
Fort Collins Realtor @ C3 Real Estate Solutions - Fort Collins, CO
Helping You Make Colorado "Home"

Nick - I'm just waiting for the update post. Any news?

I had a client who previously purchased acreage without getting it surveyed and clearly without anyone looking closely at the legal description, which was for a lot nearly a mile down the road and in a very different topography.  Turns out she 'purchased' the wrong land three years prior.  That's gonna be fun for everyone involved.

Jan 19, 2011 05:39 AM
Bryan Robertson
Los Altos, CA

I've seen situations where the legal description is for a completely different lot.  While the contract is for one surveyed parcel, a completely different parcel was in the description.  The fix for the issue was to update the legal description since the buyer and seller agreed that the parcel and matching parcel number were what was being sold.  I could see where this would get sticky when that sort of understanding can't be reached or sometime after a transaction closes.

Jan 19, 2011 05:44 AM
Joan Snodgrass
Midamerica Referral Network - Kimberling City, MO

We have similar problems in the Ozarks - must be the hills

Jan 19, 2011 05:51 AM
Tom Bailey
Margaret Rudd & Associates Inc. - Oak Island, NC

Thanks for this post. It is not just the hills, we have some places here with the same problems. They always seem to crop up where a family has owned the property for many years. Things can get very complicated.

Jan 19, 2011 07:32 AM
Jeanne Dufort
Coldwell Banker Lake Country - Madison, GA
Madison and Lake Oconee GA

Funny - I'm working iwth buyers right now on a piece of family land that has had "problems".  Geting it straight could be interesting.  Good luck, and I look forward to hearing the rest of the story.

Jan 19, 2011 08:28 AM
Kay Van Kampen
RE/MAX Broker, RE/MAX - Springfield, MO
Realtor®, Springfield Mo Real Estate

I think every title should be  checked when it's listed.  I've been doing that for every short sale, getting the correct legal and making sure there are no liens I don't know about.

Jan 19, 2011 02:50 PM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

There's a lot (no pun intended) going on with this post.  The owner signing something that wasn't explained, and the "trust me" . . . then trying to figure out what was signed, and the implications.  It's VERY fortunate that you are the trusted agent!  That's a blessing to this entire thing!  The owner went with you!!  Someone else might have been the "just sign here" type -- which clearly would have made the wicket much more stickier!!  Good luck on this Nick, and keep us posted.

Jan 20, 2011 06:54 AM
Christianne O'Malley
Dickson Realty - Reno, NV
Exceptional Service - Delivering Results in Reno!

It's always fascinating when researching title on new listings. Sometimes you really come up with some doozies. It surprises me that many agents do not search title on listings as a routine task on new listings. It's really bad when this stuff comes up IN escrow.

Jan 20, 2011 06:55 AM
Chris Olsen
Olsen Ziegler Realty - Cleveland, OH
Broker Owner Cleveland Ohio Real Estate

Hi Nick -- Great job getting the right resources to get to the bottom of it.  I don't think I would put text on a public post that there is a potential all cash offer coming out on the Internet for any other agent and/or potentially other interested buyer to see.

Jan 20, 2011 07:15 AM
John Elwell
CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc. - Zephyrhills, FL
You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results

Sadly, most agents I know take the easy route and just copy whatever abbreviated version the county has, errors and all, into their contracts. I pull up the past deeds and get title insurance copies as well to make sure the legal is correct. If it will not fit on the two lines due to the use of "metes and bounds", I do a Schedule A which is attached to the listing agreement and to any purchase offers I write. But I would be that in Zephyrhills, I am the only one that does this. Most opt for auto-fill which is only as accurate as the county data that was entered in long ago. So, who knows.

Jan 20, 2011 08:28 AM
Joan Zappa
Eagles Wings Realty - Montrose, CO
Professional treatment of our clients, brings awes

Thanks everyone. This is getting even more interesting, I will be updating as this plays out. Interesting world out there in title and ownership. Wait till the foreclosures start being resold, much potential for hair pulling.

Jan 20, 2011 08:40 AM
Gerard Ladalardo
Black Ops Outfitters - Aliso Viejo, CA

I just had a similar issue come up with one of my deals that just closed yesterday. The borrowers father was asking some questions about easements after looking at the title report and the escrow/title company wouldn't answer his questions! They wanted to charge him an additional $100.00!

This was a purchase transaction- I did NOT choose the escrow/title company

Jan 20, 2011 08:58 AM
Chris and Berna Sloan
Group 1 Real Estate - Tooele, UT
Tooele UT

Had a "legal description" several years ago that stated that one should ride North for the amount of distance "a tall horse walks while rider smokes 2 cigarettes". Gotta love the west! I just had to find a REALLY tall horse to get more land...Keep us updated!

Jan 20, 2011 10:49 AM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

Thanks to Lenn Harley for sending me over to your featured post.

Margaret

Jan 20, 2011 12:33 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Good point, good post, thanks for getting it out to us today.  I've bookmarked it today for future reference.

 

~Patricia/Seacoast NH & ME

Jan 20, 2011 01:11 PM
Michael Setunsky
Woodbridge, VA
Your Commercial Real Estate Link to Northern VA

Nick, you due diligence will save a lot of time and potential problems for your client. Good Job!

Jan 21, 2011 02:08 AM
Ryan Case
SCA Real Estate - Anaheim, CA
877-828-0710

I had almost sold a piece of property with the same issue, but it was a home on an easement, always smart to check legal description!

Jan 21, 2011 03:39 AM