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"My husband and I are first time home buyers . . . any neighborhoods for the possibility of family growth?"

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"My husband and I are first time home buyers. We would like to have a home in PDX. Any recommended neighborhoods for the possibility of family growth?"

This was a question I read in an email I received several weeks ago.  Seems pretty harmless.  A woman is making an inquiry about Portland neighborhoods.

With email responses, or posts, or pretty much anything related to real estate that's in the form of the written word, I try to make sure I don't shoot myself in the foot.

I love answering questions -- it makes me think I really know what I'm talking about.  This seems like a pretty benign question.

But . . . is it?

What if I wrote about areas I thought were good places for "family" growth.  Does that mean I'm "red-lining" or violating Fair Housing?

It's almost like giving a back-handed compliment.  Yeah, this area is a good family neighborhood, indicating another area might be the "stay out" zone, or not good for singles, or childless couples/families.

Personally, I think ANY neighborhood has a possibility for "family growth"-- because I really don't think it's "neighborhood dependent" if you want to "grow" your family -- OR NOT!!  Can't a family "grow" just about ANYWHERE?!? 

I should have asked if they were inquiring about the soil nutrient content to "grow" their family. 

But seriously -- why would Realtors(r) be expected to recommend neighborhoods for the "possibility" of family growth?  I really think it's outside my scope of knowledge. 

Here's how I responded:

I'm not trying NOT to answer your questions, but without knowing you and your family, it's very difficult (at least for me) to know what to recommend.  Neighborhoods involve price ranges, and without knowing YOUR PRICE RANGE . . . again difficult for me to recommend ANY neighborhood without knowing what you can afford, what your comfort level is with a monthly payment, etc.

You know that song "Getting To Know You"  . . . yup, it's like that!

 

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Fred Griffin Florida Real Estate
Fred Griffin Real Estate - Tallahassee, FL
Licensed Florida Real Estate Broker

Carla - I see those types of questions frequently on Trulia and Zillow.  

My first thought:  "This is someone from HUD or a Fair Housing Agency trying to entrap some Realtors".

Incredibly, those questions will usually get Answers from Real Estate Agents that are clear violations of the Federal Fair Housing Act.

Jan 23, 2011 06:33 AM
Jack Tenold
Jack Tenold LLC - Spokane, WA
Specializing in Reverse Mortgages

You are very astute.  Doesn't it feel good to just do the right thing.  Have a great day!

Jan 23, 2011 07:38 AM
Chris Ann Cleland
Long and Foster Real Estate - Gainesville, VA
Associate Broker, Bristow, VA

I probably would have answered, "Any home with enough bedrooms in any neighborhood gives the potential for family growth."  That one is a slippery slope indeed.

Jan 23, 2011 07:48 AM
Jim Patton
Aspire Home Real Estate 209-404-0816 - Modesto, CA
Realtor - Stanislaus ,Merced, San Joaquin Counties

Carla - I think your answer was the right one.  There are just too many ways to get sued these days, we have to be careful of what we say. 

Jan 23, 2011 08:25 AM
Jim Hale
ACTIONAGENTS.NET - Eugene, OR
Eugene Oregon's Best Home Search Website

Carla -

You were right to be careful.

Chris -

I like your pat answer:  Any home with enough bedrooms in any neighborhood gives the potential for family growth.

Jan 23, 2011 08:30 AM
Charles Buell
Charles Buell Inspections Inc. - Seattle, WA
Seattle Home Inspector

Karla, sometimes people just plain ask weird questions.  Perhaps they were looking to avoid housing that restricts kids---can they do that?

Jan 23, 2011 08:35 AM
Jeanne Dufort
Coldwell Banker Lake Country - Madison, GA
Madison and Lake Oconee GA

Carla - you handled it well - although there are certainly additional aspects you can explore.  For example - since I work a wide area, often when people contact me its not clear "where" they are focusing on.  One of my favorite leading questions is: do we have location concerns to take into consideration, like commutes to work or schools?  That usually gets me information that helps me describe options in ways that make sense to potential buyers.

Jan 23, 2011 09:22 AM
Jack Mossman - The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Lodi
The Nines Team at Keller Williams in Lodi - Lodi, CA
The Nines Team in Lodi

Carla - well responded narrative!  And if you imbedded the tune in your email ... they would at least know that you are on top of the technology! 

Jan 23, 2011 11:00 AM
Dawn A Fabiszak
Private Label Realty ( Denver metro area, Colorado - Aurora, CO
The Dawn of a New Real Estate Experience!

Carla ~ Chris #3 had a great response.  I may have asked if they wanted to be closed to parks, schools, etc.  But Fair Housing is one to fear.  Good response.

Jan 23, 2011 11:20 AM
Christine Smith
Buyers Brokers Only LLC - www.BuyersBrokersOnly.com - Canton, MA
Exclusive Buyer Agent & Attorney, Canton, MA

It sounds like such a simple question too, doesn't it?  I'm sure that's how they intended it too but there are just so many factors.  And, no sense discussing any neighborhood if they can't afford it anyway!

Jan 23, 2011 12:15 PM
Jane Peters
Home Jane Realty - Los Angeles, CA
Los Angeles real estate concierge services

At first I thought you were talking about the Queen (my husband and I).  Funny post, Carla.  And innocent enough as the question first seems, it could lead you down the path to ruin.

Jan 23, 2011 12:33 PM
Dr. Paula McDonald
Beam & Branch Realty - Granbury, TX
Granbury, TX 936-203-0279

So true isn't it?  We do have to be careful not to put our opinions onto our clients.  They have to come to that conclusion themselves.  We can only present the information.

Jan 23, 2011 03:08 PM
Gene Riemenschneider
Home Point Real Estate - Brentwood, CA
Turning Houses into Homes

Ask them specifically what they are looking for.  Ask them if she means they plan to have kids?  Ask what sort of things she wants nearby?  Schools? Parks? Library? 

Jan 23, 2011 03:30 PM
Karen Kruschka
RE/MAX Executives - Woodbridge, VA
- "My Experience Isn't Expensive - It's PRICELESS"

Carla  The answer to that question can be fraught with danger - you need to know specific requirements

Jan 24, 2011 12:59 AM
JL Boney, III
Coldwell Banker - Columbia, SC
Columbia, SC Real Estate

There are a lot of very "simple" questions out there that we need to be careful how we answer them.

Jan 24, 2011 04:47 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Fred -- yes, I read them too, and even more amazing . . . agents answer them very specifically.

Hey Jack . . . only if the receiving end wants to hear the "astute," otherwise I'm not telling them what they want to hear :-(

Hi Chris Ann -- absolutely!! ANY HOME, ANY NEIGHBORHOOD!  Geez, when I was growing up, the neighbors had 8 people in a 3 bedroom/1 bath home.  Mom/Dad had a room, 4 brothers in another (with two bunk beds), and the two sisters shared another room.  They were able to "grow" their family.  HA HA HA

Hey Jim . . . I don't think someone could sue me just for answering this type of question.  But, if it was a state auditor, or housing authority . . . you never know on that.

Hi Jim . . . Chris Ann rocks.

Hey Charles -- I think that would be a Fair Housing violation to exclude children, although we do have 55+ communities, and you've got to be 55 and no children are allowed.  I call them Mr. Wilson neighborhoods . . . trying to stir clear of all the Dennis the Menaces.

Hi Jeanne . . . yes, "location concerns" is very diplomatic and covers its nicely.

Hey Jack -- darn, I didn't do that!!  Next time ;-0

Hi Dawn . . . and it's funny, I never heard "grow a family" before then either LOL

Hey Christine -- neighborhoods are really price driven, aren't they!  A good place to start is ALWAYS the price!

Hi Jane . . . you have the most delightful, witty comments!  Just love 'em!!

Hey Paula -- present the information!  Which is a good thought for the day!

Hi Gene . . . never heard of "grow our family" . . . maybe I should send them a coupon for Mir'a'cle-Gro  HA HA HA

Hey Karen -- absolutely!  Know the specifics, and then as Paul states, present the information1

Hi JL . . . Simple questions, can turn into stupid answers LOL!!

Jan 24, 2011 05:43 AM
Michelle Gibson
Hansen Real Estate Group Inc. - Wellington, FL
REALTOR

Carla - I treat every call or e-mail asking questions like this as if I was being set up for a code of ethics violation.

Jan 26, 2011 02:30 PM
Andi Grant
310-508-4354 | FirstTimeHomeBuyerRealEstate.com - Los Angeles, CA
Helping 1st time buyers and home sellers in LA!

Haha about soil nutrient :)  Yes, it can be a very fine line regarding redlining and steering. I also do as Michelle does.

Jan 28, 2011 05:45 AM
Carla Muss-Jacobs, RETIRED
RETIRED / State License is Inactive - Portland, OR

Hi Michelle . . . it's a CYA approach for sure!!

Hey Andi -- I do too!

Jan 28, 2011 06:15 AM