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"How much lower do you think they'll go?"

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Real Estate Agent with Compass CA DRE# 01215160

"How much lower do you think they'll go?"

This morning I woke to an email from a buyer who asked,

"Do you think that this house will go for the price they are asking? (the lot is large, but the house is really small) I know that they are listing it at 1M, but I was wondering if a much lower offer could stand a chance?"

This is a question I hear from many buyers, at different stages of the buying process. While there is no easy answer, no set answer, here are some of the steps needed to make an informed, educated decision:

  1. houses from which to chooseYour Realtor® needs to prepare a thorough market analysis to learn what sales prices have been recently for similar properties in that particular neighborhood. Square footage of the house and numbers of rooms is a starting point; also the condition of the house, the layout, the privacy factor, and other intangibles.
  2. A study of competing properties currently on the market is needed. If there are a many similar homes from which a buyer can choose, more flexibility in an offer price might be possible.
  3. CalTrain line, San Carlos, CAAn investigation as to the condition of the property is essential, as are neighborhood issues. Is high-speed rail expansion slated for nearby? Are school closings or openings imminent? What about shopping centers, half-way houses, other proposed changes?
  4. How long has the property been on the market? In many areas here sellers become nervous after about a month, and might be more receptive to considering a lower offer than they would have been during the first couple of weeks.
  5. charming San Carlos houseWhy does this particular house appeal to you? Are you looking for a "deal" or does this house have what it takes to make a great home for you?
  6. How would you feel if you lost out on this house? If the answer is "terrible" we need to figure out the value based on the above steps, and offer a fair price.
I guess the quick answer to the question, "How much lower do you think they'll go?" is "I have no idea. If it's a house that you are truly interested in, let's get to work and study it."

Of course, if someone else falls in love with it, all bets are off and reasonableness can fly right out the window.


 

 

John Elwell
CENTURY 21 Bill Nye Realty, Inc. - Zephyrhills, FL
You Deserve a Full-Time Agent, Not Reduced Results

Last week I was called a communist and a poor agent because I would break my promise of confidentiality and tell the buyer what the seller was prepared to do. I told him that I also could not tell the seller that the buyer had just sold his RV for twice the price he had thought it was worth. Here being a transaction broker, working with both parties, means I must not disclose negotiating facts that could prejudice one party or the other. He said that was like in Russia where you could not say what you thought. Good grief!  That has nothing to do with it. He had some other nutty ideas and needless to say, I was glad when he did not call me again after we had met. I predict a very poor buying experience for him and any agent that gets involved with him.

I do not mind being asked that question. Lots of buyers do it out of habit. But I do expect the buyers to understand the simple common sense explanation about why I have to be fair. My sellers understand it and buyers can to, if they WANT to.

Jan 25, 2011 11:43 AM
Dave Halpern
Dave Halpern Real Estate Agent, Inc., Louisville, KY (502) 664-7827 - Louisville, KY
Louisville Short Sale Expert

Lottie,

Great analytical approach mixed with an emotional approach. Your step #6 about trying to anticipate feelings of future regret is the hardest for most buyers.

Jan 25, 2011 11:53 AM
Michael Simcock
Coldwell Banker (Elk Grove, CA) - Elk Grove, CA
Elk Grove, CA Realtor 916 425-1084

There is nothing like putting pen to paper to find out what a seller will do.

Jan 25, 2011 12:35 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Yes, people often ask this question.  I tell them to make an realistic offer and we'll find out how much lowere they'll go!"

Patricia/Seacoast NH & ME

Jan 25, 2011 12:37 PM
Patricia Aulson
BERKSHIRE HATHAWAY HOME SERVICES Verani Realty NH Real Estate - Exeter, NH
Realtor - Portsmouth NH Homes-Hampton NH Homes

Yes, people often ask this question.  I tell them to make an realistic offer and we'll find out how much lowere they'll go!"

Patricia/Seacoast NH & ME

Jan 25, 2011 12:37 PM
Brenda Whitman, Live in Laramie Real Estate
Live in Laramie Real Estate, Laramie, Wyoming - Laramie, WY
Broker/Co-Owner, Laramie, Wyoming

I like your quick answer!  I also appreciate all the input from the people commenting above.  Thanks for touching on a question I get asked all the time.

Jan 25, 2011 01:17 PM
Mary Yonkers
Alan Kells School of Real Estate/Howard Hanna Real Estate - Erie, PA
Erie/PA Real Estate Instructor

Lottie--Great post.  Sorry I missed it yesterday.  Your responses back to the buyers are right on.  I confirm each one, especially #5, 6 and the finale "If this is the house for you, let's work on making it happen.'

I like your style of writing, Lottie.  (Prices are so much higher than my area)

Jan 25, 2011 01:33 PM
Cheryl Ritchie
RE/MAX Leading Edge www.GoldenResults.com - Huntingtown, MD
Southern Maryland 301-980-7566

I get this question a whole lot, too, and like how you responded. It's a reblog in Southern Maryland for me!

Jan 25, 2011 01:43 PM
Christine Donovan
Donovan Blatt Realty - Costa Mesa, CA
Broker/Attorney 714-319-9751 DRE01267479 - Costa M

Lottie - This is very well explained.  I think many buyers just don't understand how many factors go into this answer.

Jan 25, 2011 02:33 PM
Michael Eisenberg
eXp Realty - Bellingham, WA
Bellingham Real Estate Guy

The only way to find out is make the offer, great to be able to educate them as you mention so the offer may be a reasonable one.

Jan 25, 2011 03:45 PM
Pat Tasker
Shorewest Realtors - Germantown, WI
Your Milwaukee Metro Area Agent (WI)

I always tell the buyer "If you see the published sale price after closing, and think "I would have paid that", then NOW is the time to put that number on the paper!  don't kick yourself later!

Jan 25, 2011 04:18 PM
Ryan Case
SCA Real Estate - Anaheim, CA
877-828-0710

JUST WRITE THE OFFER, and then you will see how the seller responds! :)

Jan 25, 2011 05:00 PM
Evelyn Kennedy
Alain Pinel Realtors - Alameda, CA
Alameda, Real Estate, Alameda, CA

I hear that questions all the time, too.  You have succinctly answered the question.  The buyer needs to decide, after viewing the comps, if they can make a reasonable offer and then just do it.

Evelyn Kennedy

Jan 25, 2011 05:49 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

People need to make reasonable offers based on what the home is worth. Buyers looking to steal a home are very irritating and most lose deals because the sellers become fed up with them.  I have a buyer like that now on one of my listings. His agent went into long-winded detail about why it was only worth "X" when it every comp out there clearly showed she was off by about $30k. Then she said "He's waiting till spring." Then he came back in and upped the ante $5k.  They just keep inching it up  hoping to be able to steal a house. It's ridiculous.

Jan 25, 2011 06:11 PM
Kimberly Brandon
Smart Moves Real Estate - Venice, FL
Broker/Owner

I like your post - "all things are negotiable"

Jan 25, 2011 10:39 PM
Barbara Altieri
Better Homes and Gardens RE Shore and Country Properties - Shelton, CT
REALTOR-Fairfield County CT Homes/Condos For Sale

Lottie -- ALL excellent points you have made.  Do the analysis, submit a reasonable offer and then they'll get their question answered. 

Jan 26, 2011 01:04 AM
Anonymous
Jeanne Gregory, Re/MAX Southwest, Sugar Land TX

You are awfully nice.  I tell them that I am fairly certain the seller will take a cash offer for list price.  Other than that, I don't know. 

Jan 26, 2011 02:16 AM
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Jason E. King
J. King Real Estate, Inc. - Columbia, SC

Lottie,

   Great Points! We are professionals and the market analysis is part of the job. I always say, 'Well lets go take a look at it. I'll submit any offer that you want to present'. Educating the buyer on the area and market is usually next.

Jason King

www.JKingProperties.com

Jan 26, 2011 03:45 AM
Nick Dailey
RE/MAX Affiliates - Union, KY
RE/MAX: Northern Kentucky Real Estate - NKY MLS - Short Sale

Well said.  Very common question and exactly how I would respond.

Jan 26, 2011 03:57 AM
Lottie Kendall
Compass - San Francisco, CA
Helping make your real estate dreams a reality

Thanks for all the comments, everyone, and for adding to the conversation. We do hear this a lot, don't we? All part of the education process.

Jan 27, 2011 03:03 AM