Broker RoundTable Notes 5 by Bill Roberts

Last night we had our semi-monthly Broker RoundTable meeting of the Mike Watson Institute of Real Estate Investing. We had about twenty people in attendance. The membership is made up of Mike Watson students. Most of us are real estate brokers but some are investors, contractors, architects, and other real estate related service providers.

The meeting always starts with a discussion of the "market." The fed's rate drop was discussed. Several of us are in the mortgage industry so the comments were flavored by our "take" on its effect on mortgage rates. General consensus is that the effect will be small but another rate drop will really help. Stated-stated was discussed as well. Being that it only is available for conforming loans it is not much help to us in San Diego.

Increasing FHA loan limits would be a great help, but it seems that it is going to take a while yet. San Diego should get a high value area limit like Hawaii has.

Next we discussed deals in process. Financing has become an "issue" for most of these deals. Where once 90% financing was available, banks are looking for more "skin in the game." One deal that BofA was going to make a 90% loan has been "conditioned" to 80%. They said if it were a new application it would be at 70%. Because it is a million dollar deal they need to come up with an additional hundred grand.

Another member has 2 4-plexes in Houston that he wants to get rid of, cheap. In the ensuing discussion it came out that the neighborhood wasn't so good, the buildings were single-metered, and the tenants had other priorities than paying rent on time. I say good luck to him being able to unload these things.

Another member had a house on a large lot (one acre) under contract. He wanted to do a lot split to six lots. The city said five max. Now he says the deal doesn't "pencil." I think that he is just scared by the current climate. He doesn't want to get stuck. Someone mentioned "wholesaling" the lots to a developer, but it appears that developers won't pay enough to make it worthwhile.

The meeting was closed on a kind of down note. Usually, we leave with enthusiasm. Oh well, maybe next time.

Note: The Mike Watson Institute teaches Realtors how to be your own best client, by creating value through use change. I have written several articles on some of these investment strategies. You can check them out.

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8 Comments on Broker RoundTable Notes 5

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Bill,

Interesting.....San Diego is indeed one of the most expensive Real Estate Markets, and it would be good if it was changed to a High Value area  :)  Interesting that your group has some of the same concerns, and down feelings that the rest of us deal with daily.  Thanks for sharing.

12:28pm • #1
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Kathy, I've missed you on my blog. I realize that you've been occupied by your post on "Private Groups."

Thanks for visiting. We'll get through it.

Bill Roberts

1:18pm • #2
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Bill- Interesting meeting. Although, a bit of a downer. People around here were jumping up and down for the rate change and mortgage brokers I know said they are doing loans, they are just not in the news! Well, after all the doom and gloom reporting by the media they are now trying to become the savior to the homeowners with articles about " How you can save your home," etc. So first they say it is all the Realtors fault for the real estate frenzy, then the lenders fault for bad loans and all of our fault for foreclosures all the while they keep saying how the market needs to go down more, now all of a sudden they want to come out smelling like a rose, and save the day! Is there some irony in all of this? Katerina
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Bill, I had read that many of the developers who had big deposits on various parcels of land are voluntarily forfeiting the deals. When things do finally turn around, we will still have a housing shortage. Maybe the lower interests rates that are expected to show late year or early spring ( especially if get that 2nd rate cut) he help slow those forfeitures down some.

The city is selling of 17 parcels with brokerages which is a first. I am very optimistic that this down crisis may ease p a bit soon. At least we some good news that congress is moving forward in the right way, Bernanke has suggested that Fannie and Freddi have their limits expanded temporarily. All in al it seems this time everyone seems to be of similar mind set and with that much energy moving the right direction, it should give everyone hope of better days ahead.

3:09pm • #4
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Katerina, It is getting better. I'm still very positive. I can't watch network news. I don't like the "blame game" and all the finger pointing. Nobody tells the truth anymore, they just have an agenda to follow.

The rate reduction is necessary only because the rates went up too fast. The actual level of mortgage rates is still at or slightly above historical lows and still below historical averages. After stability has been returned to the market we can handle higher rates. I think that the first six months of next year will have the lowest rates for a long time to come.

Bill Roberts

3:28pm • #5
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William, You can bet that the home builders still want those parcels. They will probably be able to buy them later for a lower price which will allow them to recoup their forfeited deposits.


How about a "high value" loan limit for san Diego? Don't we deserve it?

Bill Roberts

3:33pm • #6
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How about $566K FHA like they have in Hawaii. We need the $600's for conforming

6:30pm • #7
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William, why not? Why should Hawaii get it and not us?

Bill Roberts

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