But I:                                                                                            

  • Fill out contracts
  • Fill out disclosures
  • Advise my clients about all of the above, plus a ton of other stuff, as it arises
  • Negotiate with various parties

In California it is against the law to practice law without a license. I believe the intent of this law is to prevent unscrupulous people from practicing law for profit, but I think the idea that a private citizen cannot "practice law without a license" is a slippery slope. The Berkeley upstart Nolo won a victory for ordinary people who felt they were smart enough to research law and represent themselves in all kinds of areas of law, beginning with divorce law, but then expanding to many areas.

The practice of real estate is curious as respects matters of law - we are specifically licensed by our states to practice real estate, not law per se, yet the practice of real estate involves many aspects of law from agency to contract to disclosure.

Disclaimer (a legally derived term, I'm sure!): I advise my clients to get whatever expert opinions may be needed as various issues arise throughout the scope of buying or selling.

 

4 Comments on I'm Not an Attorney . . .

Deborah,

Nice post! Don't we all practice law every day by abiding by the law? Thanks,   Fran

09/24/2007 09:53 AM by Fran 'The Title Man' Gaspari Title Insurance-PA & NJ (Patriot Land Transfer, Inc.)


Nice post, but I like the idea of managing liability by passing on what I'm not proficient in to an expert.  Our expertise is marking and sales. 

09/24/2007 10:05 AM by Wayne Miller (Beach & Luxury Realty, Inc)


Deb, I practiced law for 10 years before becoming a full time Realtor. I can tell you that practicing law isn't just about filling in blanks on a contract. As an attorney, I had to get not only a bachelor's degree, but also get my law degree.  I had to sit for a 3 day licensing exam where only about 40% passed.  As an attorney, I had to understand legal ramifications of decisions that my clients would makes, which could have serious consequences either way.  When interpreting the law and providing advice, an attorney can't just look in a book for an answer.  They need to be aware of Federal, State, and local laws. They need to understand which regs are out there that affect the client.  Then there's case law interpreting what looks like straightforward law.  A lawyer doesn't just read the synopsis of the case. They have to read many cases to understand the current state of the law and where it could be going. 

Although I practiced law up until 3 years ago, I would never ever think about giving legal advice to my clients, even though I'm still licensed and could do so.  I am not up-to-date on the law (from a lawyer's needs, although I stay up-to-date as a Realtor), and not being fully up-to-date, by reading current case law, I would only jeopardize my clients. I'm still shocked how few agents don't understand how changing something in the contract, but not changing other parts could present a problem down the road.

 

09/24/2007 10:38 AM by Deborah Engel, San Diego Homes & Property (Prudential California Realty)


Fran: Good point!

Wayne: Absolutely!

Deborah: I was not saying that Realtors practice law, per se, but that we counsel, negotiate, fill out contracts and disclosures . . . all aspects of law. The other point I was trying to make was about the edict against practicing law without a license, which absolutely protects consumers, but also protects attorneys. Some people are fully capable of filing and completing their own divorce procedures, for instance. See the Nolo example . . . attorneys did not like that and tried (unsuccessfully) to stop it.

 

09/24/2007 11:44 AM by Deborah Ryman, Realtor, Santa Cruz County (American Dream Realty, Santa Cruz)


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