With all this talk on the news concerning unions, I've started thinking about it more. I've been a member of several different unions in my lifetime. All of which gave me no choice. I really wasn't thrilled with seeing dues being taken from my paychecks and did inquire each job and was told, I didn't have a choice and that I was receiving much more pay than if I hadn't had the union there for me. That may or may not have been the truth, I really don't have that kind of knowledge.
What I do have though is an opinion and some memories of unions in my past. I am not anti union and begrudge no one access to a union if they so desire. I do believe that the real need for the unions has been addressed and that for the most part they have become political action groups and are more of a problem than a help anymore. Every worker I know in a union, seems to get a raise every year, whether they work harder or not. They also seem to get a lot of time off and pay and benefits that are beyond that in the private sector. Is that fair to all? I'm not sure and I don't have a definitive answer for that question. It most likely is a union by union or case by case basis and unfair to broadbrush it.
I do have some memories that came from my father working with a union or I should say working against a union. My father ran a
family business that had been in our family for over 30 years when he took over. It was called Lancaster Brick Company and was the sole manufacturer of bricks in Lancaster County shortly after he took over. It was extremely hard work. My father was always fair to his workers, many of them working there for many, many years. He had a loyal family of workers numbering anywhere between 35 and 50 depending on the demand for bricks. They were non union for most of that time.
One day in the mid 60's a union man came in unbeknowst to my dad and talked with a few of the foremen. He really shouldn't have been in there and he got the workers stirred up and thinking they should be paid better for what they were doing. The union could help them do that. A few of the men then approached my dad and he tried to talk to them about what unions were good for and what they weren't good for. He had faced off with unionizers in the past and had successfully fended them off. This time was to be different. The workers took a vote and barely won a majority for a union. My dad was crushed by that, knowing he helped numerous employees out throughout the years and was always a fair employer to them all. He tried to tell them that although he had never laid a man off in all his years, that with increasing pay and benefits, some may lose their jobs over time. Dad was always very proud of never having to lay anyone off in all the years of operation, even when snows collapsed some roofs and a fire almost wiped them out in the 50's.
It wasn't until the oil crunch of the 70's hit that it caused a problem. With costs going so high, the company needed to make some cuts and with the union contracts there was no way to do it. They ended up stopping production and 50 men were out of work just like that. Had it not been a union shop the men most likely would have taken a cut in pay for a while to keep things going. Even so, my dad took the time to help the long time employees find other jobs, some of them were much better off because of it, but the Brick Company stopped manufacturing and switched to distributing for a while and mostly because the union shop gave no flexibliity in the matter.
The other union story I remember hearing about was the time they got a lucrative contract to supply brick for a new building in NYC. Dad had been trying to make inroads in bigger territories for quite a long time and was thrilled to land this job. It was a big job and would be a boon to the business for the next year. The first shipment was trucked up to the city. Upon entering the city, the driver was forced to pull over by some harsh looking characters. They showed the driver their union cards and wanted to see the bill of lading and asked questions. They then informed the driver that he wasn't a member of their union and in order to make delivery he had to join the union there or pay them $150. per load as a union fee. The driver didn't know what to do and asked if he could make a phone call. After finding a phone, he called dad and told him what was going on. Dad made some calls and then reluctantly called the driver back and told him to turn around and come home with the brick load. I really felt bad for my dejected dad.
I also remember playing in a band back when the musician's union was large and in charge. Whenever we played out of town there would always be a union guy there waiting to be paid for the privliege of playing in their town.
In all my dealings with a union, I really never saw the need for them. Let me know what you think?
* The named members in the photo above:Clarence was my grandfather, Roy and Bruce were my great uncles and all were brothers. The man next to my Uncle Bruce was another uncle from my grandmother's side and I think was named Jerry.
11 Comments on Thoughts on Unions
Bob,
Unions have been very much the hot topic here in Wisconsin. Unions do have a purpose and maybe there time has come and gone but I do think public service unions really need to be reevaluated. Thanks for the stories.
I think unions had their day but today just the threat of a union is usually sufficient to keep everyone honest.
Mark: Forget the unions... How bout dem Packers?? Go Packers!! Been a fan since I was very young. Let's do it again next year!!
Mike: I know Bonnie lost a job once because she just uttered, "We need a union around here!" She was shown the door and her file was marked "Uneligible for Rehire." They took it very seriously... and she was one of their best workers at the time.
Bob and Bonnie, I'm totally on board with your thinking. Those so-called union leaders need to find a real job.
Public workers unions are corruption at its best. They "bribe" politicians. It isn't like they are working a private company where they need protected from the owners.
Your stories sound like something the Mafia would do.
Here's my experience. When I worked for the airline I was required to join the union and pay dues for 1 year BEFORE I had any representation. There was no choice. I was only making about 15K a year, so to pay dues was a real hardship. My dad, who had always been pro-union, told me it was the "dumbest da&* think I've ever heard of!" He was an airline worker as well, but his union did not have the same rule. Have had no tolerance for them since then. I believe there was a time they were a "necessary evil", but that time has come and gone. I think you hit the nail on the head when you said, for the most part they have become political action groups and are more of a problem than a help anymore.
Unions have had their place. I have seen so many that seam to think that they have to get more and more and soon outlive their usefulness. Once Greed sets in, the Unions seam to loose their appeal.
Greg: Thanks for adding your thoughts and taking the time to read it.
Georgia: Georgia, the whole day through... just an old sweet song... keeps Georgia on my mind. I could have added the New Jersey client who didn't like the brick after they were laid and sued my dad for 10 times what the job was worth and ended up getting a settlement for about what the bricks cost and kept the building that was made too! You can have your bricks and eat them too! Dad stopped trying to sell out of state jobs after that one.
Cinnamon: I know what your daddy means! On the other side of the coin, I once had a 6 week gig playing at the top of the Times Square Marriott. It was a union town and even though we weren't union anymore we still played there for some reason. The 3rd night into the engagement the union shut us down and said the hotel hadn't paid or reapplied for it's yearly renewal for what they called a "Cabaret license" allowing them to have a full band. All that was allowed was "A" musician with no vocals until they straightened it out. The city took their good old time renewing it, evidently wanting to make them pay for their lapse and they couldn't fire us because we were fulfilling our end of the contract. All we had to do was report in to the club each night and hear they didn't get it that day and we were free to roam NYC with pay until the following night. This went on for 5 weeks and we finally ended up playing the last 4 nights. Getting paid to do nothing but hang out was sweet, but it still kept me away from home during those weeks. I would have rather gone elsewhere and actually played for the money. That's our unions at work... and I wasn't even union... maybe they just assumed we were, I don't know.
Bill: The only union I believe in anymore is my marriage. Now that's a union I can receive more than I give!
Hi Bob,
Nice post, and I am 100% behind you. I really think that unions have only become political action committees, and collect dues from the workers and use them only for the liberal politicians. They have outlived most if not all of their need. They usually end up bankrupting companies in the long run, and certainly drive up costs that have to be passed along. Public workers unions really need to be outlawed, as they are as corrupt as sin.
IN the age of competition and especially global competition, companies cannot afford to pay our heavy amounts of pensions, insurance, extra high wages, etc.
It all really needs to come back down to competition between workers and employers. If a company is willing to pay more to it's employees, then the workers at the low paying plant can go to work over there. It that way the other employer will realize they are not paying competitive wages and will be forced to give employees higher wages at least to those that are deserving the higher wage, and those that are not doing their jobs, well they are free to find another job if they don't like their wage.
Thanks Paul: I remember reading the book Iacocca years ago. The one thing I remember is when he addressed his workers trying to bring Chysler back from the edge and said something like, "I have 25,000 jobs that pay 18.50 and hour, I have 0 jobs that pay $25. You decide." And we know how that came out.
My father was a union man. I understand that there was a time when the union served a purpose (safety) but now they seem more like a dinosaur.