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At Social Media Systems, we deal a lot with various online projects that cover an entire range of requirements.

As online marketers, this puts us in a 3rd party vendor relation as many times we promote a site that we have not originally created. In many of these instances, we discover helpful, bright, and supportive design/hosting personnel. In other instances, we discover companies that have painful ways of destroying the relationship… by holding the mutual client hostage with their own information. 

What we do is not “rocket science”, rather what we do is a very methodological series of repetitive steps and careful planning. When a client hires us to promote them online, one of our first steps is to offer expert SEO advice and recommendations. If they do not have a on staff designer that understands our request, we often do the basic code work on a case by case basis. 

To do that work….. we need access to the site. Many large “Real Estate Agent” website providers have detailed measures to prevent this.

Obviously- there are simple legal contracts to protect a client from misuse, or to allow them to understand the possible issues arising from allowing individuals from outside of the company accessing the site.

There are also some incredibly abusive contracts, which attempt to scare the client into the possible damages associated. Here are excerpts from such a contract we received yesterday:
(I removed the name of this Real Estate Agent website company for purposes of the article)


“When accessing the FTP server, users with access agree to adhere to valid XHTML Strict 1.0

standards with regard to the markup language used to construct the website. If this

standard is broken it will cause the website to lose cross browser compatibility that will

create a situation in which “hosting company” ,will have to repair the website; charges will accrue in an

event such as this and the offending party will be liable for any and all costs associated with

necessary corrections.”

 
“Prior to adding any programming scripts, (Java, PHP, ASP, etc.), to the site, any and all scripts

must be sent to “hosting company”, for approval. Any scripts entered without the prior written consent of

“hosting company”,  will result in cancellation of the FTP connection and client service with “hosting company”,

immediately. Client waves all rights to any refund in the case of such event.”

 
“If any problems are encountered on the hosted site, or any other problems or issues arising

out of the FTP access occurs which requires action by “hosting company”, the

client will be billed and agrees to pay the rate of $150.00 per hour with a 1 hour minimum

for each occurrence.”

 
“Any and all activity, whether malicious or otherwise, not explicitly allowed by this agreement will

result in the FTP site being stopped and may result in criminal and/or civil prosecution at the sole

discretion of “hosting company”.”

 There may be parts of those sections that seem reasonable to an extent, but in the wording “any and all costs” and things like pre-authorization in the form of written consent, or statements like “Client waves all rights to any refund in the case of such event” are all designed as legal threats.

 If this contract had the best intentions of the client in mind, it would have a section for each party to assign passwords and usernames, and a timeframe the third party may be doing the work. That simple form would allow the hosting company to double-check daily back-ups on those days beforehand, and if needed restore the backup by moving a few files. Realizing your own site is a few digital files, there should be minimal work to restore the site (sometimes even an automatic “one button” solution by the hosting provider) that could have a reasonable $25 to $75 charge for the tech’s time.

 

 

6 Comments on Website Hostages- The Evil That Hosting Companies Do

I may start a small firestorm here, but you can get developer web-space from a company like 1and1.com for less than $10 a month and have 250gigs to have an virtually unlimited amount of web sites and pages.  It is far cheaper and more effective than 3rd party template vendors.

09/26/2007 11:21 AM by Chris Pollinger (Mastery Coaching)


Good Lord! Why would anyone put their web site with a company that produces a contract like that? I have had our web site with the same host forever, and this makes me appreciate how lucky I am to have found them!

09/26/2007 12:42 PM by Leslie Prest, Prest Realty, Payson, AZ


Chris- You are right. There are plenty of decent and affordable hosting companies out there for $10 to $25 a month. I can see using some of the template based versions if they have some useful applications specific to the platform, but the idea of $150 an hour to push a button is laughable. 

Leslie- If you found a good host, keep them. A good host, regardless of how much they charge- is like finding a soul mate these days.  They are almost literally one in a million... which is a sad state of things. 

Now the real crutch of this is this: some of these companies purposely "flip the switch" and blame the client for crashing the server, wait a few hours to log half a dozen complaints, then turn around and send you a six figure bill for affecting 500 client sites on a single over-used server. 

 

09/26/2007 05:00 PM by Barry Hurd (123 Social Media)


We literally give the hosting away for free to circumvent these rediculous third parties!  Rippoffs beware!

09/29/2007 10:13 PM by Israel Rothman (SocialMediaSystems.com)


Thnaks for the post.We should always read the fine print and ask a lot of questions before signing any contract.

10/16/2007 06:12 AM by GITA BANTWAL, REALTOR BUCKS COUNTY, PA HOMES (ReMax Centre Realtors)


There are many web alternatives that cost nothing to very little... Also, if you go to your local community college and hire a web programmer for allot less, and you would help this person build there resume!   I know, I use to do this for a living  and that is how I built my resume.  Now I sell real estate - go figure!

10/18/2007 08:01 PM by Sean Schroeder (The Real Estate-Xchange)


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