Polliwog Park..

We are beginning to see the effects of stricter guidelines on loans coupled with fears about big price declines on Manhattan Beach real estate. September sales are below those in August and pending sales are sparse....as of today only 7 homes went into escrow in September out of 121 active listings. The townhome market however is holding it's own with 9 pending sales and 15 active listings. Manhattan Village saw two sell within days.


If rates on Jumbo loans drop below 7% we may see an uptick in home sales. I think 7% is a real barrier for many who remember significantly lower rates and are waiting(praying) for rates to drop. I'm not sure that's going to happen. I suspect we are going to have to get used to higher rates which means higher home costs. A 1% increase in interest rates is like raising the price by 10%. So while prices may seem to be dropping the real cost of ownership is not decreasing.


Friday saw news that consumers are spending and inflation seems to be in check making fears of a recession temporarily lessen. But don't worry there will be another speech or article by someone next week predicting a recession or inflation or another 40% decline in prices on homes. The truth is that no one has a clue about what is going to happen in six weeks let alone in 6 months but that doesn't make news.


There are 121 homes currently for sale in Manhattan Beach.. on September 15, 2007 there were 118.. so inventory is up by three homes in about 2 weeks. Not exactly a rush to unload property. Last year, on October 1, 2006, there were 215 homes for sale... making inventory significantly lower this year then the same period last year. There are a lot more buyers this year compared to last year when everyone dropped out of the market. If rates drop in October as they did last year you could see an increase in sales in the 4th quarter as buyers scramble to take advantage of lower rates before the end of the year.


Truthfully, I have no idea how things will fare over the next 3 months.. but here is what I think may happen. Prices are going to remain very flat and in some areas decline over the next few months. If we make it through the October adjustable loan reset period without a big inventory increase we should be OK. For the market to decline 30%-40% there would have to be a huge increase in inventory and that's not happening in any of the Beach Cities at this time. I think we will see the market segmented into subareas based on location and desirability. That is... premium homes in A locations ... The Strand, the 100 blocks of walk streets and view homes in the Hill section... will continue to command high prices and attract buyers with big bucks to spend. At the other end will be homes in poor condition and/or in marginal to bad locations. These properties will see prices decline and remain on the market for significantly longer periods. Homes under $2 million will continue to move faster then those in the $2.2-$3.5 range... however buyers will be very picky about what they will pay and sellers will have to adjust their expectations to get their homes sold.


There are a number of homes for sale in the $1.6-$2.2 range that have been on the market since the Spring. They were over priced when they hit the market and many are still priced over market value. As these properties adjust prices to market value or go off the market many will think prices have dropped but that won't be quite true. If they had been priced at market value instead of wishful value they would have sold long ago. We are going to see a meeting of expectation and reality which will disappoint both buyers and sellers. We may begin to see more foreclosures and short sales hit the market in early November. People who want/need to close before the end of the year will be ready to negotiate price. This is the point when we will see real price declines if they are going to hit our market.... but I don't believe it will be 20%-30%. OK .. so much for my crystal ball predictions.... it will be interesting to see what happens over the next few months..

Manhattan Beach: Market Snapshot September 29, 2007
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Manhattan Beach: Price Ranges September 29, 2007

 




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10 Comments on Manhattan Beach: Market Snapshot... September 29, 2007

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If rates on Jumbo loans drop below 7% we may see an uptick in home sales. I think 7% is a real barrier for many who remember significantly lower rates and are waiting(praying) for rates to drop. I'm not sure that's going to happen. I suspect we are going to have to get used to higher rates which means higher home costs. A 1% increase in interest rates is like raising the price by 10%. So while prices may seem to be dropping the real cost of ownership is not decreasing.

Help is on the way, Kaye.   Wall Street investors stepped in this week and started buying jumbo loans; the rates will be coming down a bit in the next week.  I just offered a 30 year fixed jumbo at 6.875%, with .625 points,  for an apr of 7.19%, yesterday.  5 year fixed ARMs are trading at 6.5% with .5% point costs, for an apr of 6.73%

The jumbo market was a game of "flinch" between lenders and Wall Street. Wall Street flinched.

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Kaye - Interesting that your condo sales seem to be holding.  We're experiencing the opposite in OC.  Condo sales have declined.  Thanks for your area update.

 

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Brian.. Great news.. we really needed a break.. Thank you for the information..
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Marlene-I think it's because in the sand section there isn't much difference between a townhome and an SFR on a half lot.. and in the other areas townhomes are just a lot more affordable because of the cost of the land.  Most of our townhomes are 2 on a lot style on 30x90 lots.  Manhattan Village is the only place that is similar to many of the OC developments.   Also you have a lot more townhomes/condos in OC then we do..
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Kaye,

I agree with Brian ...I saw something about it from a friend in NY.

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Neal- A drop in rates will be a boost to the higher priced markets.. the buyer pool will continue to be smaller but those who have been fence sitting may be encouraged to take the plunge.
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Hi Kaye, I typed nearly a half page on this post and I got a message that Stumble ( do you know what Stumble  is? That is the program that was said to be extracting the comments from what I was writing to you? . It  was collecting the comments and the security provided by my anti-virus program caused me have to quarantine the comments to you. Of course I have no idea how to retrieve that, lol, but I will attempt to do so. In the interim, just know I was by and left you some nice comments on this post.

In my original comments that you can't see, I also had asked if you would stop by my 200 th post and leave a comment as I am going to re-post the entire post and all the comments as one post for my clients, family and friends to read. I would want you there as well as you are a special friend it it would not be complete with out you. Many Thanks,

William

PS, I will be trying to reclaimate the original comments for you and repost here. if not , I will start over. This post was excellent as all your writings, are.

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William -I had already been by your 200th post and left you a message... 200 posts is a huge achievement
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Kaye - we too are seeing the same issues with Jumbo loans - but our 1031 buyers seem to be moving  still
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Thesa- That would make sense as many of them will come out of the exchanges with a lot of money and need someplace to put it to defer taxes..

 

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