Ray Lucia and Ben Stein by Bill Roberts

Saturday I had the great pleasure of attending a Ray Lucia "Buckets of Money" Retirement Workshop. Ray is a local San Diego boy who made good.

He started his career as an insurance salesman. He worked hard. He did all the right things. He acquired the CFP professional designation. He is also a stock broker. He wrote a book "Buckets of Money" where he expounds his theory of diversification (or allocation) of assets to provide a lasting income during retirement. His latest book is "Ready Set Retire."

Ray now has a nationally syndicated radio talk show and he appears frequently on the Fox News Channel. A great list of credentials, but the reason I went was to meet Ben Stein.

About half-way through the workshop Ben came in and gave his "speech." He made a lot of points, but the one thing that made the  greatest impression on me was his love of America, his patriotism, and his desire for all of us to have a better life.

He mentioned that his "exercise" program consisted of getting down on the floor and thanking God that he was able to wake up in America (actually he said La Jolla  because that was where the workshop was held).

I had the great honor of being able to introduce myself to this very accomplished, very well educated, very successful author, and a movie star to boot. I shook his hand. It is really nice to be able to touch greatness. I was surprised to learn that Ben is one year younger than me. I have always looked forward to his participation on Fox News on Saturday mornings. He said that he was one of the only "guests" with any economics training. Most of the "advisors" on TV don't have a clue what they are talking about. And if you follow their advice you will almost certainly lose money, especially over time, because their failures will wipe out any successes.

I don't know why Ben Stein participates in Ray Lucia's workshops but I am very glad that he does. If Ray has a workshop in your area you should definitely attend. Check it out here.

Ray covered a lot of ground in the workshop. He had a lot of uncomplimentary things to say about investment advisors in general and TV investment advisors in particular. Booyah!

The main problem with "Baby Boomers" is that they are not adequately prepared for retirement. The average "Boomer" only has fifty thousand dollars in their retirement account. It won't last anytime at all. They need to wake up and smell the coffee. Time to do something about it is right now.

Ray mentioned that large retirement funds such as CalPers invest in direct ownership of real estate. The implication was that this makes sense. I say "booyah!" of course it makes sense. He asked the audience of several hundred if they had made money in real estate. A whole lot of hands went up. But Ray is an insurance and stock guy. His real estate recommendations extend to REITs, both traded and not traded.

I'm a real estate guy. I think that direct ownership of real estate is still the best investment for your retirement funds. This can take the form of wholly owned real estate and fractional interests (both LLCs and tenancies-in-common).

Most people think that their IRA has to be invested in stocks and mutual funds. This is because the big IRA custodians are affiliated with the big mutual fund companies and stock brokerage houses. You can have a self-directed IRA. You can "direct" the custodian to "invest" in real estate for you.

If you need help setting up your self-directed IRA or you would like to know more about this process you may contact me directly. Bill Roberts 619-244-4610.

 
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20 Comments on Ray Lucia and Ben Stein "Buckets of Money"

OCT
01
2007
Nice blog Bill!  I wonder if he ever gets to the East Coast? 
1:37pm • #1
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Richard, check his website. The link is in the post. Thanks for commenting.

Bill Roberts

1:39pm • #2
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Bill- What a nice post you just wrote. This is really interesting. I will have to get his book. Real Estate is a very good investment as long as you hold on to it and not try to flip it without any sound financial backing! Like so many people did here in FL! Katerina
10:15pm • #3
OCT
02
2007
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Katerina, thank you for your kind words. You might want to get both of his books.

Bill Roberts

2:02pm • #4
OCT
03
2007
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Bill-Glad you got to meet one of your Idols... investing,for me though is like taking "castor oil"  something you need but resist doing it cuz you don't know the advantages or disadvantages.

10:36am • #5
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Kathy, It is not at all like taking castor oil. I couldn't do that either. Investing is FUN. And it is something you can do with your clients. Thanks for stopping by.

Bill Roberts

 

1:31pm • #6
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Bill R.

That must have been a great event to go to...I like Ben Stein 99% of the time...I would have enjoyed listening....I'll have to look at their upcoming schedule.

 

7:54pm • #7
OCT
04
2007
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05
2007
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Ben Stein is usually right on both financially and politically. Glad you got to shake his hand. Always catch him on Fox, when I actually get to watch it. Way cool for you to have met someone you have such a high regard for. Have listened to Ray for years on his radio program. Great advise. He did have some questionable advertisers ( at least he used to. )Haven't heard in a while.
6:16pm • #9
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Hi William, yeah it was nice to actually meet him (Ben Stein) and the program was interesting as well. Ray is on a new station here (AM 1700 out of Tecate). I think he may own the station. It's just my guess, kind of reading between the lines.

Thanks for stopping by,

Bill Roberts

6:22pm • #10
JUN
12
2008

I ran into Ben Stein in Charleston, SC, at a restaurant. Nice Guy, not at all self-absorbed as you might assume.

12:34pm • #11
JUL
26
2008

A local gentleman in Crosby, Texas and Ben Stein sold me on these gentlemen. Ben wouldn't be connected to anything cheap or crooked. Harold my local contact is extatic about the program, he has been using it for 3 years now and is very, very "bullish" even in this down real estate market. My wife & I am looking forward to learning more and getting into this program.

Singer73 Max
4:10pm • #12
OCT
17
2008

I missed Ray when he had a seminar about 3 weeks ago, I'm wondering if Ben travels with Ray for his seminars if so, hope to see him next time around.  thanks, C

Carol- San Francisco
4:40pm • #13
OCT
21
2008

Bill,

Love Ben Stein!  He's definately right on more times than not when it comes to Financial matters and looking at the positive side of things.   Wish I would have been there.  So true about the boomers-It's what I call the lopsided networth generation.  Got to keep educating them about Self Directed Real Estate IRA's!!  What's a "TIC" doing in my IRA??????

 

2:35pm • #14
NOV
04
2008

Bill - how fun! I'm sure it was great seeing two great planners speak.

11:15pm • #15
NOV
19
2008
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Hi Bill,

Great post, interesting topic. I love Ben Stein, too. Must've been fun to meet him.

Ken Tharp, Iowa Equity Exchange

3:23pm • #16
NOV
28
2008
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Thank you one and all for commenting here. I understand that Ben appears at some but not all of Ray Lucia's workshops. Check out Ray's website for more info.

Bill Roberts

2:24pm • #17
JAN
16
JUL
06

Ben is a fine actor and an interesting personallity, but he is dead wrong on the economy.  He wrote an article about at the top of the market on Yahoo finance that said you should not sell stocks because they could not possibly go down significantly.  He may be a patriot, but to a fualt.  Anything can go down, including real estate.  And Bill, you should also educate your customers that real estate can't just be sold like a stock in case of emergency, and also has all the upkeep and risks of a physical asset.  I am not saying real estate is bad, but this just seemed like a love in about real estate and people need to be aware of the downsides as well. 

Joe
1:23pm • #19
JUL
07
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Joe, I don't need to defend Ben Stein. As an Economist, Attorney, Businessman, Pundit, and Actor, he is truly a Renaisance Man.

As for real estate as an investment, you need to educate yourself. There are real estate investments which lend themselves to long-term investing, medium-term investing, and even short-term investing. There is much more to real estate than houses.

And no investment is completely safe for the passive investor. Just ask the people that held "gilt-edged" bonds from GM.

As for liquidity, even cash in the bank can be held up for a period of time. Check the rules.

I hope YOUR retirement funds are well placed. Good luck.

Bill Roberts

1:02pm • #20

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