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Do Realtors® Need Health Insurance?

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Do Realtors® Need Health Insurance?

I thought about writing this blog post months ago when I bumped into yet another fellow Realtor® who did not have health insurance.  He was complaining of something health related and I asked what his doctor had told him about it.  He admitted that he hadn't been to the doctor because he didn't have health insurance.  Actually, it turns out that he didn't know that health insurance was even available to California Realtors® through several group plan options.  And of course, there is a limited health insurance option offered through the National Association of Realtors®.

The health insurance question was the first one I had to answer before finally pulling the plug on my law firm job.  Once I found out I could get insurance through the California Association of Realtors® I was free to break the chains of a regular job.  The plan I pay for is not that fantastic and it costs me about $300 a month and functions as little more than an overblown discount plan, but I do have health insurance.  I am wondering though how many Realtors® actually bother to get health insurance.  Overall, Realtors® seem to be a pretty uninsured bunch. 

I'm not here to rah-rah for health insurance.  I have it, I feel I need it, but I don't think it will do me much good unless I get really sick - and maybe not even then given all the restrictions in place in many policies.  But certainly, something seems better than nothing.  And, I wouldn't want not having insurance to keep me from going to the doctor.  I read the reports about the death of Laurie Manny, and though to my knowledge it wasn't confirmed that the reason she didn't go to a doctor was due to the fact that she had no health insurance, it is sad to think it may have been a factor.

I raise this topic today because I received a robo call this morning from someone purporting to know that the California Association of Realtors® group plan rates will be going up a great deal at the next open enrollment period.  I haven't verified that the call is authentic yet.  It was offering gap insurance - so I'm skeptical.  Anyway, I hope it's not true.  I hope that the price of health insurance hasn't jumped up to such a degree that I begin to think it is worth taking the chance of going without it. 

What do you think, do Realtors® need health insurance?

Copyright © 2011 Tni LeBlanc *Do Realtors® Need Health Insurance?*

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Dorie Dillard Austin TX
Coldwell Banker Realty ~ 512.750.6899 - Austin, TX
NW Austin ~ Canyon Creek and Spicewood/Balcones

Good morning Tni,

Health insurance is a must..there are many plans out there and not to have something is irresponsible..you would never forgive yourself if something terrible happened to a family member and you didn't have coverage.

Apr 12, 2011 12:40 AM
Anita Clark
Coldwell Banker Access Realty ~ 478.960.8055 - Warner Robins, GA
Realtor - Homes for Sale in Warner Robins GA

I am fortunate in that I am covered through my husband (retired Air Force) but would get health insurance if I needed it.  You don't need it until you need it and then it's too late.

Apr 12, 2011 01:49 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Cheryl - That's a nice perk.  Disability insurance is something most people overlook -- but it can come through in a pinch.  Do they offer medical insurance as well?

Loreena- Thank you so much for commenting on this post.  Reading about your brother also got me thinking about this issue again -- even though he is not a Realtor.  I see so many Realtors taking chances and not having medical insurance.  I think we may be one of the most uninsured professions -- probably because we are independent contractors and many people cut corners on themselves.  It is helpful if a person has a spouse who has an employer plan but not everyone has that (I don't) and it is important to know that there are alternatives that will not completely break the bank especially if they only cover catastrophic care.  A HSA high deductible plan is a great alternative and in fact that was the first plan I had when I became a full time real estate agent.

Barbara- $1500 a month.  Wow.  That is expensive.  It does add up when there is no employer there to make a contribution.  But as Loreena said it is important to be responsible for yourself and have some type of insurance.  I wonder why then do so many Realtors skip it?

Bill- Yes, health care kept me with a day job for many years.  It's hard to give up those employer paid perks, but the thought of not having medical insurance is/was scary to me.  I am glad that our state association gives Realtors options for a group plan.  It helped me make my dream come true so that I could do this full time.  An engineer, huh?  Uh-oh, I heard they know how to do everything!  LOL.

Apr 12, 2011 02:11 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Dorie - I agree it does come down to an issue of responsibility.  You have to be responsible for yourself and part of that is having insurance.

Anita - You are fortunate.  Good benefits are hard to come by!

Apr 12, 2011 02:13 AM
Debbe Perry
Real Living Carolina Property - Morganton, NC
828.439.3084 Morganton/Lake James NC

"Do realtors need insurance? Anybody with equity, with investments, with anything they want to keep, better have insurance. You don't know what's coming your way. Really." Thanks for that comment, Glenn. I couldn't agree more.

I pay about $700/month for a HSA with a $5000 deductible. I had to pay for it from savings several times last year when times were tough. Unfortunately, short of having no savings left, I know it's an expense I have to pay. Ever hear of working for insurance?

I lived overseas for a decade where this problem doesn't exist. When I returned to the U.S., for many years my employer paid the lion's share of my insurance costs. Being self-employed is expensive until you're successful.

But I just don't get that we aren't indignant about the costs of what should be so basic in every "developed" society. We ALL pay for health insurance, no matter what developed country we live in. It's who administers the provision of healthcare that differs - oh, and who PROFITS from it.

Apr 12, 2011 03:20 AM
Sonja Patterson
Keller Williams - BV - College Station, TX
Texas Monthly 5-Star Realtor Recipient for the Hou

Tni, read Loreena's post and had to come read yours. Yes, I have insurance, which is going up on me next month...but I won't get rid of it.  May up the deductible in order to lower my premium--but now that I'm 40...I don't want to take any chances.  Might have a skateboarding accident or  something ;) !

Apr 12, 2011 05:24 AM
Bill Burchard
3B Realty: 951-347-3818, CA - Murrieta, CA
Broker, Realtor, Representing Buyers and Sellers

Good afternoon, Tni. Your post is excellent. Glenn Roberts mentioned it in his post, and I’m glad he did. And Glenn’s comment (#3) drives home the point why insurance is a must-have. (I hope you’re doing better, Glenn!) My wife and I have life insurance, not because we expect to leave this planet anytime soon... but just in case. We also have auto insurance, not because we plan to have an accident... but just in case we do. And we have health insurance... just in case.

Apr 12, 2011 09:22 AM
Karen Baker
Sunset Beach and Beyond Realty - Sunset Beach, NC
Professional Help with Rapid Responses...

Tni ~ Damned if you do (high costs)  Damned if you don't (no paddle will help you here)

We do need insurance, all insurance, but what happens to those who don't have it and can't afford it ~

Thank goodness Frank has health insurance from the New York Fire Dept.  Why hasn't this post been featured??

Apr 12, 2011 09:33 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Debbe - Yes, I think Glenn #3 focused the issue and Linda #5 brought it home for me.  The way the system is right now you just better have insurance.  The reality is you will be denied non-emergency care if you don't have insurance, and if it is something major you will not be able to afford to pay for it. I have no idea why our system is organized this way -- and if you ask me we get very little for all we pay -- but I guess that can turn into a whole other post.  Yes, I've worked for insurance before too and I know MANY people who do that too.  So many Realtors are skating on the issue though.  I was shocked to find out that someone as successful as Laurie Manny didn't have health insurance!

Sonja- LOL re: skateboarding.  Yes, I want the option of going to the doctor if I want or if I need to.   I also want to be able to get the treatment I need if something catastrophic happens.  I know my family would be reaching to try to help me no matter what so the burden would fall on them.

Good point Bill!  Not many people make it through their life without need of some type of health care.  In our society, health insurance is a must.

Frank & Karen- Thanks!  I would say that if you can't afford to pay the cost of your health insurance -- even just some basic coverage -- that you might not want to do real estate.  It really should be a part of what you estimate as a business cost.  So many people jump into the business without understanding the real costs and think that insurance is just something they can forgo to keep their expenses down.

Apr 12, 2011 11:05 AM
Maya Swamy
Funds Available - Long Beach, CA
Ph.D. Long Beach, CA - fundsavailable.com

Hi Tni

40 years ago come October 11 I was a teaching assistant who had a student die. What happened? He was in a car that was hit by a drunk driver. He was bleedning rapidly. The ambulance was prompt. They took him to the nearest hospital as they should have - his bad luck was it was a private hospital. They looked in his pockets for an insurance card. Didn't find one and turned him away. They wouldn't even provide enough blood to see him on his way to the county hospital. He bled out on the way. The sad part is he was insured just not carrying his card.

The moral of the story is with out insurance you may get not get any treatment at all. It doesn't matter if you can afford the treatment or not - you just might not get it.  So you need insurance and you need your card with you at all times.

Apr 12, 2011 06:45 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Dr. Maya - That is a sad story indeed.  I'm not one for suing everyone, but I do hope that hospital was sued and held accountable for the role they played.  Very sad.  Yes, we do need insurance.

Apr 13, 2011 05:40 AM
Steve and Jan Bachman
RE/MAX Gateway, Reston, Herndon, Ashburn, Sterling, Fairfax - Herndon, VA
Realtors - Northern Virginia

Oh Tni...what a sore spot. Quality insurance costs us 1100/mo. It's a killer. Something must be done. I do not know the best thing to do but health insurance cripples the entrepreneurial life. Just think how many more people would take a shot at their own business if their families wouldn't be at risk through no insurance.

Apr 13, 2011 10:06 AM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Tni - I suppose if you have nothing to attach then health insurance is not important.  My health insurance premiums are $2130.52 a month for my wife and I.  I cannot afford to be with out it.

Apr 13, 2011 03:57 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

David - Yes peace of mind.  At least if you have it you know you've done all you can.  And chances are even if the insurance isn't great you'll still be able to get basic care.  Thanks for the tip on supplemental disability insurance.

Steven and Jan - Yes, it is a sore spot.  You're right health insurance ties a lot of people to jobs they don't want.  I too think we need a bigger solution.  Compared to what some others are saying, $1100 for two people sounds cheap.  I'm really amazed at the numbers that are being thrown out there.  I guess that is why so many Realtors are out there taking chances.

Conrad - Well I think Linda made a good point when she said that not having insurance may mean you won't get treatment at all.  Dr. Maya's comment (#33) also detailed how even a perceived lack of insurance can work to your disadvatage in receiving the care you need.  After all, you can only worry about your assets if you're still breathing.

Apr 13, 2011 05:22 PM
Conrad Allen
Re/Max Professional Associates - Webster, MA
Webster, Ma, Realtor

Hi Tni - I am having a great big belly laugh.  "You can only worry about assets if you are breathing".  That was priceless.

Apr 14, 2011 01:34 PM
Brian L. Sirota, Esq.
Bristar Realty (Realtor/Attorney) - Orange, CA
For Solutions: (714) 501-7660
This blog is a signficant contribution to the realty community. A special thanks to Glenn Roberts for pumping his own blood into this post; it's a brave thing to do. My health premium takes priority over other bills. Tni, thank you for writing about it. Brian L. Sirota, Esq., Broker/Attorney, BriStar Realty, Orange County, California
Apr 17, 2011 06:36 AM
Justin Dibbs
Fairway Independent Mortgage - Ashburn, VA
Mortgage Advisor

I'm moving to Canada!  Just kidding.....

The health care situation here in the US is a joke.  Don't even get me started.

Apr 19, 2011 05:56 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Thanks Conrad.  It's true isn't it?

Corinne - Yes dental insurance can come in handy too.  I thought about getting some recently but my dentist told me it wasn't worth it.  I'm glad you got that bonus too!

Brian - I also think this is an important issue.  So many people taking chances with their health -- they do believe that if they get sick that they will be able to get treatment but that is not always the case.  You will be in a tight spot.

Justin- Me too...only I don't know if I would be able to learn the language.  LOL.  I really think we need to make some improvement in this country.  In addition to being expensive in my opinion the service kinda sucks.  What ever happened to house calls?  They still do those in other countries.

Apr 19, 2011 06:04 AM
Scott Fogleman
New Home Team - Richmond, VA

I feel health Insurance is important at any age. While we hope we never need it, you never know what is going to happen. As Realtors we are in cars a lot, what happens if your in an accident? I also play rough sports. While I have never been seriously injured, without insurance I wouldn't play them.

Apr 19, 2011 10:08 PM
Lynn B. Friedman CRS Atlanta, GA 404-617-6375
Atlanta Homes ODAT Realty - Love our Great City - Love our Clients! Buckhead - Midtown - Westside - Atlanta, GA
Concierge Service for Our Atlanta Sellers & Buyers

Dear Tni -

My good AR friend from Chicago complained bitterly about the NAR bus -
When I read her posts about wasted dues money, I thought about health insurance - the topic of your post.

WHY DOESN'T NAR OFFER the 1,000,000 members AMAZING INSURANCE for us and our families? Not the "core" they now offer ...

Maybe if every AR member wrote to NAR to ask them to get us GREAT coverage - well - that's about 20% of their membership - isn't it?

Have a happy day -
Lynn

Apr 29, 2011 03:52 PM