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38 Comments on On Submitting Purchase and Sale Agreements
Sorry I'm a day late, but this post is excellent Glenn.............well deserving of being Featured.
Glenn. We are only required to present legal offers and according to our sellers instructions. My seller may instruct me to only present offers that meet a certain price minimum. They can do that.
Short sales have definitely brought out the worst on folks. Mostly because of frustration. Banks are making up the rules as they go along and some make no sense whatsoever. So agents, buyers and sellers are thinking of ways to skirt around these unreasonable rules. Problem is that we can't act illegally or unethically just because the lender is doing so.
Melissa - The ethics on both sides of the table need to be improved. Sounds like the way Washington Mutual was run.
Roger - This isn't a Facebook Birthday. You are never too late.
Bryant - In Washington, all offers must be presented. After one is accepted, others may be solicited by the owner by requesting a status of sold pending/backups requested. Otherwise, they should not be submitted.
Exceptional post Glenn.
We're surprised that an offer that carries an obviously fraudulent component would be required to be presented. If we were to attempt to explain to the seller that we felt it may be fraudulent and it were then accepted by the seller, we would then be a party to that fraud.
We need to be cognizant of right and wrong at all times. Common sense will usually dictate when something is "wrong".
Howard & Susan - We absolutly need to be cognizant of what is wrong and not be a party to it, or instigate it. I'd like to see more licenses lost for such errors in judgment.
Great post today, thanks for getting it out to us today.
Patricia/Seacoast NH & ME
Glenn:
Your post should be copied and pasted on agent's foreheads so they remember what is ethical. No matter what your clients asks of you, you have to do what is legal and ethical. It is not worth risking your license to comply with your clients wishes. Follow the law and our Code of Ethics and you can't go wrong.
We all know that we need to submit all offers to our sellers. However, in California, if a seller gives me written instructions that he/she/it does not want to see offers of a certain type I do not have to present those offers. I can notify the person making the offer that the offer is unacceptable in my role as agent for the seller. I cannot make decisions that the seller needs to make but if the seller has already decided that certain offers shall not be reviewed, so be it.
Patricia - It's been a slow news day.
Evelyn - It's not rocket science but often money gets in the way.
John - Interesting to learn about how other states handle that. Thanks.
The potiential criminal charges and loss of license is enough to keep me from doing it. I would not object to some of the side deals (moving expenses and such) if it were legit, which it is not. Those side deals can be abused too and I think that is why the banks do not like them.
Hi Glenn,
Funny how many believe that rules and laws are really only meant for others, or that they can permit themselves to shirt the law jsut this once, then twice ....
Great post.
congrats on the feature.. it is well deserved.. great blog!!!
Gene - So many miss the point that there are laws and ethics. They only know that the deal is the thing.
Ranji - I agree, and they need to learn...the hard way if not in clas. They didn't learn from their parents.
Sheila - Thank you.
One thing I learned as a real estate trainer - ethics cannot be taught - but that is why we have the Grievance and Standard of Practice committees - report violators so we can get them out of our profession - The process makes sure the event was not just a mistake - it only hurts those who have a lack of ethics. NAR requires we take their Ethics course once every 4 years - just to keep honest people honest - I would think once every year would be a good idea.
Glenn, It is quite a time we are living in. The surprises can come from any direction. Then legitimate buyers can't understand why their underwriter needs sworn affidavits in the file regarding their access to funds and so on.
Great post and feature worthy for sure.
Kimberly - Our broker seems to teach ethics weekly, by example at our meetings.
Charles - Not hard to see why so many are demanding more regulation of our industry to control the few abusers.
The rules that guide us a Realtor® are there for all parties protection. I do not think it difficult to explain how we must conduct ourselves to a buyer or a seller. If they want to go down some road that will jeopordize our career, we have to be willing to make the right decision. Unfortunately, those of us that make the right decision are not written about. It is those in the ranks that want to gamble that catch the eye of the press and government officials. Glenn your post is a sound reminder to us to stay in control of our transactions.
Robert - the difficulty is, how does one make the honest agent stand out?
Wow Glenn. How ironic. I just wrote a post about integrity in our business. Even when the seller says a 100 times that they won't accept an offer below $xx.xx, you just never know when they might change their minds. So even when you get the offer for the 10th time that is below that number, you still have an obligation to present it to the seller.
Charita - We always need to keep on our toes, and keep reminding others that the right way is the only way.