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The Rush to Lowball

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The Rush to Lowball

I appreciated reading the recent blog article by J. Phillip Faranda, entitled “How to Submit A LowBall Offer on a New York Listing.”  He provides a great deal of clarity on a difficult and sensitive subject. I can appreciate a good low ball any day of the week, but Phil is correct, there is a way to go about it.  The gist of his blog post is that a low ball offer should be presented well and have all the necessary pieces in place.  Of course a seller will be looking for a reason to easily disregard a low ball offer, and you must not give it to them -- your offer must have not have any missing parts.  I would add that in California, if that offer is cash, presenting a proof of funds along with the low ball offer can also be quite effective.  I believe we are the “Show Me the Money” state after all.

One of my own pet peeves about low ball offers is not just the typically poor presentation of them (verbal offers or incomplete ones) but also the timing of the presentation of those offers.  In my opinion, a low ball offer must be timed right.   Now, let me be clear if you are right about the price and the seller is just plain wrong -- you are not really low balling in my mind.  What you may be doing could be properly classified as “putting the real in real estate.” However,  if you are clearly breaking new ground looking for a bargain basement deal -- you are low balling -- and you have to be aware that there is an art to it.  Presenting a complete and polished offer is a part of that, and the TIMING of that offer is also important.    

So often I see people jumping up on the first day a reasonably priced home is listed to present a low ball offer.  Imagine you are the seller on the other side of that equation -- are you ready for a low ball on day one?  The very first day you put your precious home on the market are you ready to consider an offer 20% below your list price?  I would say that 99.9% of the time the answer to that is no!  And how does the seller then feel about that buyer?  Are they inclined to go back to you if their home doesn’t sell for a higher price, or would they rather sell it to someone else for the exact same price when they are then ready to accept it?  

Most sellers are not ready for a low ball offer in the first week.  This is true even for short sale listings.  Even though short sale sellers are not receiving proceeds from the sale of their home, they still have an opinion of what their home is worth and in the first week a low offer may offend that opinion.  And, as Katerina Gasset so aptly pointed out in a recent blog post entitled, “Why Does Your Short Sale Seller Care If We Give Him A Low Ball Offer?,” short sale sellers do have an interest in presenting the best possible offer to the bank.  So, unless a short sale has a foreclosure auction date of say... tomorrow, the short sale seller will probably still want to see if they can get their asking price rather than jumping on your low offer on day two.

And what have you told me as the seller when you make a low offer so quickly?  You’ve told me that you really do want this house and you recognize that someone else would want it too so you are trying to move quickly.  So, then even if I’m not insulted by your low offer, I think I can probably get you to pay a lot more than what you’ve offered -- basically I may think your actions speak louder than that low price. In my opinion, low ball offers are not very effective on new listings.  After all, a seller has to be ready for a low ball, and if you can take that house or leave it, what's your rush?

Tni LeBlanc is an independent Real Estate Broker, Attorney, Short Sale Agent and Certified Distressed Property Expert (CDPE) serving the Santa Maria, Orcutt and Five Cities area of the Central Coast of California. If you are considering a short sale for your Nipomo, Arroyo Grande or Pismo Beach home, contact her office at (805) 938-9950 for a complimentary initial short sale consultation today.

*Nothing in this article is intended to solicit listings currently under contract with another broker.  This article offers no legal or tax advice.  Those considering a short sale are advised to consult with their own attorney for legal advice, and their tax professional for tax advice prior to entering into a short sale listing agreement.  Mint Properties is not associated with the government, and our service is not approved by the government or your lender. Even if you accept this offer and use our service, your lender may not agree to change your loan.

Copyright© 2011 Tni LeBlanc *The Rush to Lowball*

 

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Comments (19)

Liz Wallace
Century 21 Sherlock Homes - Rockville Centre, NY
Broker C21 Sherlock Homes, Rockville Centre, LI, N

This is a great post and very timely.  This is great info for new agents and old seasoned ones too. A definite suggest post.

May 15, 2011 08:44 AM
John Howard
Century 21 LeMac Realty - Mountain Home, AR
GRI, Mountain Home, Arkansas 870-404-3614

Tni,  I agree, a Great post!  I have gotten Low Ball offers accepted or at least reasonably countered several times.  It does have to be done correctly to be workable on a consistent basis.  Have a Great Week!

May 15, 2011 08:48 AM
Adrian Willanger
206 909-7536 AdrianWillanger-broker.com - Seattle, WA
Profit from my two decades of experience

Tni-several good articles on low-balling,I certainly agree with Phil's checklist for presenting a LBO and your adding the importance of timing, a tight presentation goes along way.

May 15, 2011 09:05 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Thank you Tni for the mention about the blog post I wrote about why sellers do care about low balling their short sale listing. In a short sale situation, the listing agent should also be looking out for their sellers and helping to negotiate the best terms possible. I don't understand the thinking behind accept any offer that comes along. Katerina 

May 15, 2011 09:06 AM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

I like those red buttons on the top right of your post:) 

May 15, 2011 09:07 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Thanks for the suggest Liz!  

John - Yes there is a way to do it.  Getting an agent that knows how and listening to their advice is key.

Adrian - The right presentation is key for a low ball.

Katerina - Yes, as you mention the best offer for a short sale seller is also one that the bank will be inclined to accept.  Low offers don't get that far with short sale lenders.  A short sale seller needs to present the best possible offer.  Glad you liked the buttons.  Got them on iclipart!

May 15, 2011 10:07 AM
Melissa Zavala
Broadpoint Properties - Escondido, CA
Broker, Escondido Real Estate, San Diego County

I had an agent call me the other day about ne of my REO listings and ask me, "What's the property REALLY worth?" (WHat came out of my mouth and what I was thinking were two different things.)

May 15, 2011 11:43 AM
Jennifer Prestwich
Henderson, Thornton, Broomfield and Westminster - Henderson, CO
Madison & Co Properties

Tni, what a well thought-out and well-written post.  Suggest!

May 15, 2011 12:47 PM
Karen Baker
Sunset Beach and Beyond Realty - Sunset Beach, NC
Professional Help with Rapid Responses...

Tni ~ such a suggestible post here!!  It irks us when one of our clients wants to make a low ball offer despite discussing what a fair offer is ~ Some folks in this market think they can get a home for whatever price they want ~ and have the nerve to act surprised when their offer isn't even countered ~ Educating buyers can be a difficult and unrewarding task at times ~

May 15, 2011 01:03 PM
Christine Smith
Buyers Brokers Only LLC - www.BuyersBrokersOnly.com - Canton, MA
Exclusive Buyer Agent & Attorney, Canton, MA

Tni.....I definitely agree about the timing.  A house just on the market is different than one that has been on for several months.

May 15, 2011 01:19 PM
Ruthmarie Hicks
Keller Williams NY Realty - 120 Bloomingdale Road #101, White Plains NY 10605 - White Plains, NY

Hi Tni,

Suggested this one - Its so strange when someone feels compelled to present a low-ball the first week a listing is on the market - even when it is perfectly priced.  Buyers also need to realize that there are some properties where the lowball won't fly.  And that's likely on a perfectly priced property....

May 15, 2011 01:35 PM
J. Philip Faranda
Howard Hanna Rand Realty - Yorktown Heights, NY
Associate Broker / Office Manager

Thanks for the shout out, and a great point on the timing. 1 day on market is s silly time to come in low and knock the place when you might end up getting egg on your face. 

May 15, 2011 04:26 PM
Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Company - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

Really good article.  I have never been a fan of lowballing unless the list price is way out of line. And I have an off-the-wall-question.  Whenever I see your name, I assume it is pronounced tee-nee. My husband thinks it is pronounced totally differently . . . so wanted to check and see if that is actually the way it is pronounced.  :)

May 15, 2011 06:43 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Melissa - Why would you ever ask a listing agent that question?  Besides I'm just impressed that you are an REO agent and answering the phone.  Very impressive.  And then you have to deal with stupid questions.

Thanks for the suggest Jennifer!

Frank & Karen - Yes I have clients that want to rush in on day one with a low ball offer.  I always try to talk them into waiting.  What is the point of rushing in with a low offer?  Makes no sense to me.

Christine - Most definitely.  I think people are really believing the hype out there.  No one wants to see your low offer on day two.  No one.

Ruthmarie - That's the other part of it -- if the property is priced well for the market why do you think they will accept a low offer in the first week?  If the market is falling they are much more likely to believe that on week two than they are week one day one.  Thanks for the suggest!

 

May 15, 2011 07:13 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Phil - It sure isn't and I see it all the time.  All I can think is -- what's the rush?  Just inexperience. I think agents should really counsel their clients about doing this.  Either you've offended the seller or shown your hand -- one or the other.

Hi Mimi - A good low ball has its place -- but not on the first day something hits the market!  It's pronounced like "Tonight" without the "T" on the end -- thanks for asking.  I get called Teenee a lot though -- LOL. 

May 16, 2011 05:43 AM
Mimi Foster
Falcon Property Company - Colorado Springs, CO
Voted Colorado Springs Best Realtor

Oh, that's beautiful!  What is the origin?  My husband was right on :)

May 16, 2011 06:57 AM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Mimi - Made up!  My grandmother's name was Tiny, so my mother wanted to name me for her without naming me Tiny (for which I am grateful).  It was a hit -- my grandmother loved the name and I love it too.

May 16, 2011 02:31 PM
Susan Haughton
Long and Foster REALTORS (703) 470-4545 - Alexandria, VA
Susan & Mindy Team...Honesty. Integrity. Results.

Excellent - what also irks me is when someone not only lowballs the first week on market, but they lowball a property that is really incredibly well priced.  Makes them look as if they are just bottom feeding to me.

May 17, 2011 02:19 PM
Tni LeBlanc, Realtor®, J.D.
Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 - Santa Maria, CA
Tenacious Tni (805) 878-9879

Susan - Absolutely!  That is a pet peeve as well.  I just don't get it.  At least give the market a chance to reject the price before you throw out a low ball.  Ridiculous.

May 21, 2011 07:39 PM