thinking outside the box

I have been reading some good posts with some great comments over the last few days. And this post, The Value of the Buydown by John Klassen, and the comments in this post, inspired me to write this blog. The reasoning behind this is because I would like to give some different view points, so not only consumers will understand, but realtors in general. I think this blog will tie in perfectly with the two previous blogs that I wrote a few weeks ago. PMI (Private Mortgage Insurance); why you need it and the different types of PMI......  &  The Myths about ZERO point mortgages instead of paying points upfront......

 

In this post, I am going to talk about the difference in buying down your rate and what an actual buydown is and how to utilize this to your advantage.

Even though John mentioned buying down the rate in his blog which is mentioned above, Leo Namiot brings up another good topic of discussion. The buydown, normally known as the 2/1 buydown. What Is a Temporary Buydown?

Sure, there are other versions of this, the 1/0 buydown, the 1 1/2/  ½  / 0 buydown, or sometimes the 3/2/1 buydown. This type of financing is not just buying down the rate, which would be fixed for that term, but possibly buying down the start rate low enough to qualify. But this rate will move each year, depending on the type of the buydown. Now, don't be afraid though. As a loan officer, I can tell you exactly what your principal and interest will be for each succeeding year while in this program. Some people think that these rates could go higher, depending on the market. This is not an adjustable, but just a lower fixed rate that will adjust as a fixed rate per year.

I will use the 2/1 buydown as my example, because it's easy to follow.  This will be based on a $200,000 loan amount with 10% down, which would mean that the purchase price was $222,250.  And the seller is going to contribute $5,250. I am going to stay with these same numbers when I discuss this further in Part 2 of this series.

At a rate of 6.00% fixed for 30 years, which at today's market, would be a zero point loan.  If I did a 2/1 buydown, it would cost the borrower 1.375 pts which would be $2,750, leaving the client $2,500 for other closing costs. And using this 6% buydown, the first year rate would be 4%, the 2nd year at 5%, and the 3rd year fixed for the remaining 28 years would be at 6%. The payments would adjust to whatever the principal is remaining after the first year in accordance with that years rate. I am not going to complicate matters, but for those money geeks that Brian Brady refers to, each buydown is different when calculating when it adjusts. Sometimes it will adjust after the 13th or 14th month. But to keep this simple and for simple math purposes, let's assume that each year, the adjustment period is 12 months. And remember, these rates will not change no matter what the market does before each adjustment period. This is written into your note addendum.

 

Example A - Fixed Rate & buying down the fixed rate

So, at 6% on 30 year fixed rate, your P & I payment would be : $1,199 per mo

Now, if I took that $2,750 that it cost for the 2/1 buydown, but applied it to the rate, my new rate would be 5.625%, fixed for 30 years, no buydown.

                                                      Your new P & I would be: $1,151 per mo

A new savings of $48/ mo. After 3 years, your savings would be $1,728. But it cost you $2,750 to do the fixed rate, meaning that it cost you $1,022 to still do the fixed rate.

 

Example B - 2/1 buydown

    2/1 buydown:  1st year at 4%, your P & I payment would be : $  954  Savings of $245/mo

                         2nd year at 5%, your P & I payment would be: $1,070 Savings of $129/mo

                         3rd year at 6%, your P & I payment would be : $1,189 Savings of $ 10/mo

So your 3 year savings would be a total of : $4,608. You spent $2,750, so your savings after doing the buydown would be : $1,858.

After comparing the fixed rate, if you bought it down, & the 2/1 buydown,  the difference would be that you saved $2,880 in a 3 year period. But one thing happens from here on out and that is your buydown payment is $38 more a month for the remaining years that you hold onto this mortgage. And we haven't even talked about what your principal balance would be after the 3 years on either scenario.

Principal balance: 

Your principal balance on the fixed rate that was bought down would be $191,636 after 3 years. Your balance on the buydown would be $190,637 after 3 years. There is close to a $1,000 difference, in favor of the buydown. But again, remembering that your payment is now $38 more a month. [GOALS]

 

In summary, this is where goals come into play. Here are two posts that talk about goals just as a reminder to the clients buying. Outline your intentions, Make a list of what you want and get it., by Christine Adler &  Don't Lose site of your goals!, by Dwayne Neufeld.  As a client, have you done your homework?  That is what a good loan officer is there for, to not only get you a good deal, but to help you understand your options. And how I proceed with this is that I ask the client within the first 5 to 10 minutes, what their goals are, as they buy this house. Yes, their goals. Not everyone can predict their future, but many people buying a house know if it's their starter home, if they will be in it for 5 to 10 years, or that they will want to stay there for the rest of their lives. And there are even times when they might want to pass their house down to their kids. Again, sure, we can't predict the future, but when buying a house, these clients should have goals already.   

Once I get a good feel for what my clients goals are, what they want to achieve while living in this house, I can then proceed to the 100's of types of mortgage programs. In my second segment (Part 2), I will discuss the possibility of using that money to buy down the PMI, instead of using it for the buydown. You might be shocked at what this could do for your monthly payment. Even throwing a twist into the whole mix by using some of the money for the buydown and the rest for the PMI will be shown. And not forgetting that this scenario was based on putting 10% down which would require some type of mortgage insurance. So, we aren't finished comparing apples to apples yet.

 

16 Comments on Thinking outside that box…. What to do with the sellers concessions & where to apply the money. Buying down the rate vs the buydown…..Part 1.

NOV
28
2006
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Angela.... thanks for the great compliment.... and thanks for stopping by. Should have part 2 out by tonight or tomorrow morning.
4:00pm • #1
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Jeff, you did a great job in explaining this. I am glad that you brought into the equation at the end, the Borrowers goals. This in important, because I have seen Buydowns used for the wrong reason.  By that I mean, the Borrower could not afford the monthly payments at lets say the 6% rate since that is the rate you used.  But they could afford it at the much lower payment of the first year of the Buydown. This sounds great until the first adjustment and their income has not change. Thing get tight and they get tighter at the end of the second year. Now we have a situation where they can't make the payments.  So again a great product if used correctly becomes a bad product because it was used incorrectly.

The goals always have to be taken into consideration, and that is where every loan needs to start as you stated.  Good job, I look forward to the next one. 

4:50pm • #2
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Jeff,

Very good.

Keep up the good work.

Bill

William J Archambault Jr

The Real Estate Investment Institute

http://www.reii.org

7:25pm • #3
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George.... thanks for the very polite comment. And thanks for your input. Overall.....yes, goals are so important and over-look by many loan officers in this industry. Just worried about giving the client what they want and not disecting their goals and what might be better for them, educating them.

Bill.... Much appreciated, coming from someone of years of service in this ever changing business and industry. Who is well respected in this community and outside of it. thanks

7:35pm • #4
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I sound like a broken record but it is ALWAYS about the expected term of the loan, a point you so aptly stress.

You just can't assume that loan is going to be there in 7 years (actually, more like 4-5) with rapidly fluctuating interest rates, volatile home values, relaxed underwriting guidelines, and an education that home equity is really a bad investment

10:25pm • #5
NOV
29
2006
Thanks for the easy understanding approach
11:41am • #6
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Brian.... thanks for the compliment.

John.... my pleasure...  I am glad that you could understand it. I am sure many won't be able to...it can be confusing. I had to look at it several times.....just to make. 

12:14pm • #7
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Jeff, Reding this made me glad that I put the other post up. I learned more from the comments than I knew in putting the original post together. Great job.

John

5:49pm • #8
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30
2006
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Here's another awesome post for my bookmarked collection.

thanks for taking the time to write it...

kk

7:40am • #10
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KK...... thanks for the great compliment.....  did you check out Part 2?

thanks again 

10:18pm • #11
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21
2006
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Jeff, thank you for putting together a great series of mortgage posts to help educate us Realtors on the different options and programs available to our clients!
4:41pm • #12
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12
2007

Builder's often like to use buydowns in their marketing skeems.  It enables them to advertise a very low monthly payment or introductory interest rate.  In addition to providing a marketing edge, the buydown provides qualifying power.  In most conventional loans, the borrower qualifies at the start rate.  In FHA financing, the borrower qualifies at the note rate.

Example:  A customer wishes to buy a $425,000 home with 10% down, using a 30 Year Fixed Builder Funded 2-1 Buydown Interest Rate: 6.375% Year 1 P&I Payment at 4.375%:  $1,909.77 Year 2 P&I Payment at 5.375%:  $2,141.89 Years 3-30 P&I Payment at 6.375%:  $2,386.30 Builder's Buydown Cost:  $8,415 Or, as a percentage of sales price: 1.98% Qualifying at 4.375% the customer qualifies for $95,000 more home.

Interesting Note: Buydowns are accomplished by offsetting the note rate mortgage payment with an escrow account that is set up at closing with fee for the program.  If the loan is closed prior to the end of the buydown, the un-utilized funds will be reimbursed to whomever paid for the buydown.

4:41pm • #14
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13
2007
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Gerry.... I appreciate you stopping by and giving your input. But in regards to the example, I am a little lost. Who is saying that the builder is funding this buydown?  All they can do is give funds to the buyer who would in turn get this buydown from the lender. And I guess I am confused, because I did give an example of how the buydown works above.
5:36pm • #15

I merely said that they often fund the buydown.  It's a common incentive for builders.  Though it is essentially listed as Seller's Help, if the builder has the cost put on the Seller's Side of the HUD-1, they can get reimbursed for funds not utilized in the buydown period.

I didn't see where your example illuminated increased buying power and the potential for the purchaser of the buydown to get reimbursed in a refinance or early sale situation.

6:51pm • #16

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