At our Tuesday morning business meeting, a colleague raised a situation that comes up fairly often. Here's the scenario:
An offer came in on a condo listing, where the buyer waived the home inspection contingency. The sellers thought, "Oh! Goody!"
At the walk-thru the day before settlement, the buyer brought an inspector who went over all of the appliances and systems (heating, plumbing, electrical, etc.). And that evening, they sent an email with an attached list of everything the buyers wanted repaired before settlement the next morning. In lieu of repairs, they would accept a credit from the sellers, or they would ask the seller to escrow a good bit more than the repairs might actually cost, and anything not spent would be released to the seller.
The agents relayed the 2-page list of some real and some nit pick items. The sellers thought, "Yikes! Can they do that?"
So, during the discussion, another colleague said she always insists that a contract without an inspection clause must also include an "As Is" clause.
"But wait a minute!" I pipe up. "Without an inspection, how do you know what 'As Is' actually IS?"
Without an "As Is" clause, the sellers were required to do any repairs that were covered by the property condition paragraph, and in this area, that means systems and appliances have to work. And in our current market, you really don't have to fore-go an inspection to get an offer accepted.
So, this was the final consensus:
If you're dealing with no inspection and an "as is" clause, you probably have to use the property disclosure information as a benchmark for the condition of the house or condo as of the contract ratification date, and we all know that there can be problems that the sellers are unaware of.
Then we decided that if an offer comes in on one of our listings with no inspection contingency, ask the other agent to include one with a fairly short life span, say five days. (I've been known to counter an offer by adding an inspection.)
Even with the second option, the buyers could find a new issue at the walk-thru. It's just that there probably won't be a lot of issues, and they will be easier to resolve one or two leaking faucets than an entire last-minute laundry list.
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Jeff, the buyers opted out - they had no inspection contingency at all. That, however, didn't stop them from bringing a professional to the walk thru to check the property condition items.
And Chris, the CYA is a good idea. I'm starting to use my own in sort of "Run, Spot! Run!" English, you know, "My agent, Pat Kennedy told me that not having a home inspection is incredibly stupid, and I acknowledge that she tried to bully me into having one and I just flat out refused."
Hi Patricia,
I always advise my buyer clients to write a home inspection contingency clause. However, there have been one or two times where I have heard of a buyer "nit picking" some of the smaller issues trying to make them out to be more than the $5 cost to repair the problem. I think some buyers need to realize that when a home is 20+ years old...it's not in NEW condition.
-Keith
Keith, in this market, I think it's probably a good idea for the sellers to fix the small stuff. And some listing agents have accused me of nit picking repairs that wound up costing the sellers thousands of dollars and really needed to be done.
And Sherri - Du-uh! You are so right! You must have read The Irreverent Guide to Real Estate!
Great point you raise. Funny thing happened last week when I was out of town with regards to Home Inspections. In fact I was starting to blog about it this morning. Look for it later today.
The small stuff SHOULD be fixed before it hits the market - but it is possible that any buyer could pull this stunt at walk-through. The question is what does "normal working order" mean and what does it include? It seems pretty clear right?
Yes - if the garbage disposal doesn't turn on - we have an issue. But what if this 'inspector' finds something more detailed in the walk-through? Say a small crack in a window? Does the window "work"? What about the way the kitchen sink sprayer is hooked up (is not to code) - but does it "work"?
Good topic for more conversation.
James, what arguments I've had over what's working order! And until they changed the contract, a windows could arguably be considered a "mechanical" system. And small crack? Structural, but was it there at contract ratification or did it develop after that? And the inspectors who throw "code" around drive me nuts! What code? The one in effect when the plumbing was installed in 1915? With no upgrades, that is what rules! Show it to me!
Thanks for the comments!
I'm working on a contract now with a buyer where the seller is a relocation company. They have already done an inspection so we have a pretty good idea of what the issues are going to be. We have already let them know that all of the walk-through items on their list MUST be taken care of and we have detailed which items we determined were walk-through.
We are going to have our own inspection on top of the one already done so that we can see if any of the home inspection items are bigger than they appear. I think it is a great way to start the negotations-knowing what the issues are-instead of waiting until afterwards. I'm starting a new "certified pre-owned" program with my sellers.
Starting this year - every one of my listings has been pre-inspected by FARO Home Inspections ( a well known inspection company in the area) before being put on the market and entered into MLS. It costs my sellers $500-600 upfront and not one of them has had a problem doing this, in fact they welcomed it and were all very glad they did it. The sellers make any repairs suggested by FARO. I provide a copy of the inspection to agents and their buyers online.
So Far, this year,"knock on wood" there have been NO problems with home inspections or walk thru items, no asking for credits and very smooth transactions. I believe this has saved my sellers many, many, many dollars (in repair credits) and a lot of time, trying to negotiate over home inspection items. Some buyers did their own inspection too, but none have had any big problems or asked for any money.
I am SOLD on pre-listing home inspections!
Debbie, one of the FARO guys is a total lunatic! I'm sure you use one of the other ones. But I think having a listing pre-inspected is a great idea. Brilliant, in fact.
And Katerina, your way of doing it sounds a lot saner. Here, buyers keep getting another bite at the apple. Of course, if I'm representing the buyer, you know, bite away!
Patricia,
I know which home inspector you are talking about!
A lot of agents in the DC area know who it is, and NO, NO, NO - I don't use him.
Something I never thought of but talk about putting the seller in a situation that is almost considered black mail at this point. I think you should have gotten 5 stars for this one including and extra one for a featured post. This isn't something that comes up often, but when it does, this would be something good to know.
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