Take the plungeWe decided to take the plunge and hire an employee to act as our in-house editor. This new employee's primary responsibility will be around editorial functions for the soon to be relaunced Localism site. They will also be selecting featured posts for ActiveRain until we are able to develop and test our community moderating platform. 

Yes you heard right on both accounts! 

We are working on a Localism redesign, and we are going to be developing a process where our members will play a greater role in selecting featured posts. 

What this means, is that effective today, we will no longer be using the services of our team of volunteer moderators. 

For almost a year now, the featuring of posts has been handled by a team of moderators. This team is made up of a diverse array of members from the network. The job they have done in keeping the network vibrant has been nothing short of amazing in my opinion. 

There have been three moderators in particular who have been the face of the moderators. Colleen Kulikowski, Laurie Manny, Rich Jacobson, and Mark Flanders have been instrumental in the vitality we have experienced in the past year. Their efforts have often times been thankless, questioned, and misunderstood. Even so, they have been unbelievably generous with their time, their input, and their willingness to help. 

I want to personally thank Colleen, Laurie, Rich, and Mark. Thank you!!!!

There are also a group of "hidden moderators". While we strive at ActiveRain to be transparent, it was decided a while ago that in order to get anyone else to volunteer to help moderate we would have to protect their identities. I will leave it up to them to decide if they want to reveal themselves at this point. 

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OCT
11
2007
188,185 Points 31 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Given the past and recent behavior of certain 'gangs in the rain' a digg system will never work here in the rain.  The dishonest up and down ranking of certain groups has run rampant.  Nothing has deterred them, they must think that the rest of us do not know who they are, but we do.  A digg system will fare no better. 

What a digg system will do is to drive more members out of the rain.  This will continue to happen until all you have left are the gangs raging in the slums of the rain.  

You dig?

 

10:56pm • #105
OCT
12
2007
297,841 Points 110 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I've always thought that it should be more like a Digg style ranking of featuring the posts.  The cream will rise to top more often than not when the Mob has the power.   I limited group with the power to feature, or not feature, can never make everyone happy... and there is too much room for specific bias.

Tread carefully, Jim.  I have facts on my side.   Facts trump conjecture all of the time.  Your claims of "specific bias" did a great disservice to one of your clients last night.  

Are you claiming that the moderators exhibited specific bias?  Against whom?  

Here's your big opportunity to stand up for your clients 

12:30am • #106
520,778 Points 229 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master
Yes, I would be most interested to read the response to that query myself. It would be nice to get things out in the open. I've heard some pretty disturbing allegations that have been made, and if true, bring serious discredit to those I have held in extremely high regard.
12:46am • #107
297,841 Points 110 Featured Posts Outside Blog

if true, bring serious discredit to those I have held in extremely high regard.

They are not true.  Conjecture is the glue that holds the mob together when truth is absent 

12:59am • #108
165,653 Points 58 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router
Isn't a system like digg the reason we switched to moderators in the first place? We had the old thumbs up and thumbs down option.  That system allowed for gaming of AR in epic proportions including fake profiles. It was very obvious if you were paying attention what was happening and who the culprits were. Sadly, they are still around and drove out some good contributers. The digg idea would be a huge step backwards.
6:39am • #109
385,803 Points 75 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

I too recall the mockery that was made of the early dashboard by a "team" of agents all "voting" for each other through a pyramid of fake profiles and comments.

AR has tried 'digg' style featuring and it failed here. Hopefully lessons were learned.   Before that system is implemented again you need to deal with those who mastered gaming it.

 

6:42am • #110
874,720 Points 154 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Hit Router Attended Rain Camp Called Shot Master
I've been out of town a few days, but couldn't let this post slip by without saying thank you to all of you for your time and committment to this great community.
7:51am • #111
290,126 Points 33 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Ummmm this is getting interesting.  Now that the Moderators are out I see some of what I saw is in fact real....and glad to know that they know who was/is doing it.  And I still say one profile for person .....:) Get rid of the fake ones, and the people that left a long time ago....if they want to contribute, re-join.

thank you Mods for standing up, and continuing to make this a good place for all of us, not just a select few .....

11:26am • #112
188,185 Points 31 Featured Posts Outside Blog
OK Boys and Girls, I have been hearing the word TRANSPARENCY thrown around a lot lately.  How about a little of it?
11:50am • #113
306,489 Points 23 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor
Thank you to all the moderators for doing a great job.  I'm new here and don't know all that has happened in the past but this is such a great site and it looks like it's getting even better!
12:15pm • #114
233,849 Points 32 Featured Posts Outside Blog

No need to cull my words.

Referring to any bias is a mere generality that will happen in any limited judgment.  Bias towards items of interest, or away from items of particular disinterest - be it person, place or thing - is virtually impossible to avoid.  Arguably, it's human nature.

RE: (Here's your big opportunity to stand up for your clients)

I'm not exactly sure what you are insinuating... is there something I need to be brought up to speed on?
I have made no claim, nor participated in any finger-pointing, regarding moderation...nor do I really care.

RE: Digg style.  Just because the AR original model was compromised doesn't mean you need to throw the idea of it away.  This is a social network... is it not?  Digg continues to improve their algorithms to curb gaming, as does Google.  I'm just saying that I revere the wisdom of the mob to a panel when making decisions on behalf of a social atmosphere.

Gaming will always exist.  No doubt.  On a level of 2 to 2 billion, it's going to be there.  If the system is aware that gamers are there, then they can work to curb and punish - And if you look at the results of Digg and others, you will see that the most interesting news items of the day still continue to rise to the top - game or no game.  

6:06pm • #115
297,841 Points 110 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Referring to any bias is a mere generality that will happen in any limited judgment.  Bias towards items of interest, or away from items of particular disinterest - be it person, place or thing - is virtually impossible to avoid.  Arguably, it's human nature.

No, Jim.  You referred to specific bias, that is not a generality.  Specific bias implies that the moderators singled out a group.

I have made no claim, nor participated in any finger-pointing, regarding moderation...nor do I really care

Well, you care or you wouldn't have taken the time to weigh in with an opinion.  Your insinuation of "specific bias" is both a claim and a pointed finger.

Jim, you're busted.  Stop using your clients ( and our friends) to promote your company by tearing apart this network; you're embarassing them.

7:54pm • #116
245,817 Points 56 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog
Brian, this is way out of hand. Jim has not nor has he ever embarrassed me and as far as I know he has not embarrassed any of his clients. He is a man of integrity. I'm not sure why you feel the need to constantly bash Jim but it really needs to stop.
8:00pm • #117
233,849 Points 32 Featured Posts Outside Blog

"too much room for specific bias" is what I said.  And the point is, that if someone has a specific bias toward something/someone/someplace then there is a challenge with the method.  I made no effort to point out any issue, just the fact that there can be challenges.

You're bullying attempt at putting words in my mouth is not only way off-base, but uncalled for.

How you make the leap to me using anyone for any agenda, especially an agenda I have had absolutely no involvement with is beyond me.  I'm flattered that you think I somehow have a power to tear apart this network (something I would never do, if you knew how much I support it), but that statement is the most ridiculous thing I have read all day.

Brian, I have no idea what you are getting at, or what light you are trying to pin on me... but you can speak with the Rain Gods and any (and every) client of mine, and you will find that I have had no interest, no involvement  and no influence with this whole topic.  Any insinuation to the contrary is worse than conjecture, it is bordering defamation.

I will no longer entertain your responses. 

8:09pm • #118
111,189 Points 26 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Yes the old Digg system (nicely coined new phrase btw) is why we went to moderators in the first place and I agree with the MF and Linda comments about the gaming that was occuring.

Now all I have to say is this, and I said it at the time. If we just write and post for the reasons we signed up and forget the darn points and features we can all get back to normal?

I thank all the moderators for their hard work. It's like herding cats in here.

8:59pm • #119
OCT
13
2007
184,002 Points 46 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog Attended Rain Camp

I'll be transparent:

If I were a moderator, I would make every attempt to uncover hidden talent and powerful voices. I would try to weed out the imposters, the plagiarizers, the point hogs.

I am sure this is what the late moderators tried to do.

Perhaps unlike the recent moderators, I would tend to gravitate to my own subscribed list. Those are the people I read first upon rising--and the last I read before going to bed after a day of working.

I worry about Karen George. I revere Lenn Harley. Gena Riede is an absolute hoot. Laurie Mannie doesn't write nearly often enough--and neither does Kristal Kraft.  Brian Brady mesmerizes and I never want to miss a post from the AR Gods.

I have a long list of bloggers to whom I subscribe.

And if I were to seek featured writers after a day of resolving real estate issues, I would probably first seek out the writers to whom I subscribe. I mean, when Lenn Harley bothers to stray from localism posts, she shakes the industry. Brian Brady stirs it up. So does Gena.

Then there's the wisdom of Lola and the Jeffs and other many other authors I love to read. 

Believe me, I love the talent on this forum but still have some specific biases....

 

12:26am • #120
297,841 Points 110 Featured Posts Outside Blog

I will no longer entertain your responses.

Then anything I offer, fact or conjecture, would be pointless.  I believe that you believe you are correct.

2:13am • #121
OCT
25
2007
Ditto to Carole about the points.  Any hints about the Localism redesign? 
8:19pm • #122
DEC
14
2007
357,464 Points 15 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor Outside Blog

Bob,

Still haven't heard anything about the relaunch at Localism.  I tried to look at it today from the consumers point of view and didn't quite understand how articles were posted to the main categories and why those categories were chosen.  My two cents.

1:05pm • #123
SEP
01
2008
204,621 Points 12 Featured Posts Localism Sponsor

Well this post explains a lot about what i've been thinking. I think the moderator choices were quite evident and great picks. Perhaps with localism priorities falling behind, we could begin a new round of volunteer moderation?  Btw: Downtown Long beach condos are where it's at.  props to laurie, rich, bryant, etc (sorry don't know all of you yet by heart), for all the hard work you put into this.  This really deserves a reblog but ya that's not available.

7:56pm • #124

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