Hawaii Townhouse Living... Responsible Homeowners Take Steps to Protect

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Real Estate Agent with Century 21 Liberty Homes RS-#62825

 After spending the last three weeks of heartache trying to find a water leak in between our bathroom walls we are finally on the road to "recovery". During this time we had a plumber come out TWICE (and there was still a water leak), getting estimates to replace the cheap fiberglass tub/surround the townhouse came with, and scheduling our "vacations" so we could get all this done quickly. (picture to the left are the old tub/walls)

Condo/Townhouse Living in Hawaii..........and A Water Leak is where all this started.

We finally had the plumber/contractors here all day yesterday demolishing, replacing the junk with a nice tub, patching my walls that the other plumber cut in our closet, putting up duracast (cement like) walls, REPLACING all the plumbing for the bath/drain, and pasting over with the cement junk to prepare for today. Today they are putting in our ceramic tile walls.

I would really like to commend Yamada's Plumbing and Contracting,  1827 Republican St., Honolulu, HI   (808) 845-1702 in expediting this job immediately and working as a team to get the majority of the work done yesterday. We were very impressed and everything doesn't seem like a miserable investment anymore. (picture below right is NEW plumbing/drain etc.)

  1.  No matter what, as a townhouse/condo owner we have an obligation to repair or fix our problems immediately; lest we fear repercussions for damaging another unit too. Responsible living in a Townhouse/Condo Association requires certain steps to follow during a plumbing/electrical/safety hazard problem to protect you and your neighbor from further damage and safety:
  2. Make sure and obtain Condo Insurance Your association has condo insurance and is included in your maintenance fees for the common elements (common land, beams, foundation, stairwells, roofs, parking, elevators, main power and plumbing, ducts and whatever else as determined by the declaration) BUT it does not include the inside of your unit. Call them immediately!
  3. Make sure and contact your Resident Manager (Association) and you Association Management Co. Notifying them of any damage to structure or potential hazards/damages that may affect neighbors is a very important to do. You want to be a responsible homeowner and let everyone know.
  4. Call the appropriate contractor/plumber/electrician etc. And get the work started on to try and remedy the problem. You may cause more damage to yours (as well as neighboring) units so be responsible for potential danger and hazards to other members of the community by nipping it in the bud!

 My husband and I "teamed up" to make this a smooth and fast "recovery". He called the insurance company and we both called for estimates and set appointments. I called the plumber in between and had to have them out twice to do some work (I won't call those people again). We worked hard and diligently to pick, prod and probe to get the job started before it caused any other water damage to ours or a neighbors unit. Luckily there was minimal damage and they tore out what was. (picture to left....almost complete! Ceramic tile/tub/new plumbing)

I REALLY hope my neighbors will do the same if they ever have something happen. 

 

 

 

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman is a Realtor-Associate with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocating to Hawaii, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents. Website: www.hawaiihomesmarket.com

  

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Celeste "Sally" Cheeseman  is a Realtor-Associate® and Certified Residential Specialist (CRS) with Century 21 Liberty Homes in Mililani, Hawaii. With a sharp understanding that a listening ear is the key to a client's needs  she serves the island of Oahu (Honolulu County) and all Hawaii Military Relocations, Hawaii Retirees, Hawaii Job Transfers and Hawaii Residents, Home Buyers and Sellers.

 

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Adam Waldman
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SALLY:  Glad to hear that you guys are getting back to normal.  I respect you for not only taking care of things right away, but also using your story as a lesson to others to have consideration when living in a condo, or any other attached unit for that matter.  I've lived in Manhattan, and some of the neighbors were totally inconsiderate.
Oct 12, 2007 11:01 PM #20
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Lenn Harley
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Condo ownership can be tricky.  But, you're right about attending to matters as quickly as possible.  Of course, that applies to any type of ownership. 

I have to advise folks around here to avoid making insurance claims when possible, though.  A negative C.L.U.E. report can be as bad as a bad credit report.

 

Oct 12, 2007 11:39 PM #21
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Sally- I am happy to see your new bathroom almost finished. That happened pretty fast! Now you can enjoy a new bathroom! Everything happens for a reason and maybe it was time that Sally enjoyed a new bath!Katerina
Oct 13, 2007 01:20 AM #22
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Sally, Believe me, I sympathize!  I thought I had done everything right myself but the first rain proved differently.  I hope to find a better quality of people and I'm SO glad to hear there might be an end in sight!  Your post couldn't have come at a better time for me, Thank YOU!
Oct 13, 2007 03:09 AM #23
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Lynda:  And getting homeowner's insurance will protect us if we damage others units. In your situation I hope the neighbors had insurance to cover any damage to your side.

Thesa:  It's almost over....we did a lot of cleaning yesterday from two days of dust.

Kathy: It sure can...the other two estimates we got....well, let's just say first impressions make a difference too. The first one looked lazy and high on something...the second ones dressed and talked the car salesman lingo...and this family owned co. ...the owner came with one of his crew...he looked like he got down and dirty too and he gave us an estimate within the hour and told us it would take complete two and a half days. The first one said 4-6 wks for the order to come in...the second one had everything but 3k more and would take 5 days. (for what?)  We are very happy and pleased and definitely worthy of naming in my post! :)

Oct 13, 2007 04:09 AM #24
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William: Yeah...well, we found out the hard way. Didn't realize we were on the verge here.   We knew one day we'd replace it all...sometimes things like this work out for the better. Now I just have to worry about upstairs coming down on me.

Andrew: Yup...especially plumbing problems....sure can cause some damage quick. Vacation is what I already said in the post...home and new bathroom...haha.

Adam:  I am one that will definitely get the ball rolling if the neighbor doesn't.... and that's why homeowner's insurance will help even if it's the neighbors fault...what if they don't have insurance? Where will I be then?

 

Oct 13, 2007 04:17 AM #25
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Lenn: It applies to all ownership, yes. The condo tricky thing is that it can affect neighbors as we're all attached. In my case, I am on the corner...someone above and all three that corner my bath are butting each other. As for filing a claim. Not so much filing a claim but reporting is necessary. We contacted our insurance co. once we found out it was US!  We would be responsible if we hurt someone else's unit....but we caught it quick and just a little of our drywall was soppy and a little mildew/mold.

Katerina: I agree.....we knew one day we'd like to do it...time was a factor. We needed to take a vacation time off so here we are!

Carole:  I'm also glad I don't have a big place..let alone a big bath area. You have a big job on your hands and I hope everything works out well. What got me going was reading about your mold and getting sick....as soon as I saw water...bam! Find it ....get it...

Oct 13, 2007 04:23 AM #26
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Sally-What a recovery process that was. I'm sure you took a deep breath, kicked up your feet and sat back in relief for a bit, appreciating that the hard work was done.   
Oct 13, 2007 04:43 AM #27
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Julie:  Yeah, they did the hard work...I'm going to pick out floor tile today.
Oct 13, 2007 04:44 AM #28
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Sally, glad to see that you finally got that situation corrected.  Water problems can be a sometimes extremely hard to find and correct.
Oct 13, 2007 05:27 AM #29
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Thanks George. it's been a heck of a three weeks (and money out of our pocket)
Oct 13, 2007 05:29 AM #30
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Joanne Hanson
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Sally, how have I missed your posts after all this time on AR!  I am going to go and subscribe right now! 

We once had a water heater leak and it ran all down in the unit below us.  We had an insurance claim on that one!  Sometimes it is better to replace when you think it might be time, not when it actually happens!

Oct 13, 2007 05:41 AM #31
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Joanne: I kept seeing you all over as well....will go check you out too. I agree!  Glad we were on the bottom and didn't have to fix someone elses....  We told the owner...he doesn't want to do anything right now because his tenants have six more months on the lease.

Oct 13, 2007 05:57 AM #32
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Well that s-cks! Water is a big problem here as well especially when mold sets in...we are in the mold capital of the world when there are leaks. Renovations are difficult unless the contractor doesn't have to break down the walls...but most time you need new wonder-board or Sheetrock and most leaks come from the roof into down the walls.
Oct 13, 2007 08:34 AM #33
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Neal: I figured if I had to go and do the bath/walls...might as well go for the gusto...I wanted long lasting...good stuff...therefore...do ALL the plumbing, ceramic tile bath walls and gee it looks nice...they're in here doing the grout, sealer and stuff....will post a picture at the end.

Oct 13, 2007 08:50 AM #34
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Good tips!  Glad you fixed your leak!
Oct 13, 2007 08:57 AM #35
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thanks Pete!  I sure am glad it's almost done!

Oct 13, 2007 09:07 AM #36
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That was pretty fast.  I know you were having trouble finding the leak.  Please leave me the plumbers business card if you have an extra.  A good plumber is hard to find.
Oct 14, 2007 12:40 PM #37
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Randy:  We didn't like the original plumber...they were crap....

I put these good ones in the post...soooooo deserving of a mention!!!

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You are a trooper!  I'm glad to hear and see that it all turned out in the end...even after the "remodel" adventure. 
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