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I bet you guys wouldn't do this. Would you?

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC BK607690

I was so excited today. I got a call from a Realtor that had just showed one of my listings and his Buyer wanted to make an offer. This was exciting because I just placed the property on the market last week. It was an expired listing and a brand new home. The folks that own it had closed on it back in March with the intention of flipping it for a small profit. It's a great house. 2 stories, 4 bedrooms, 2.5 baths and 2093 sq. ft. of living space. This particular builder builds a very attractive house. It was purchased for $209,000 and was previously on the market for $279,000 and then reduced to $259,000. Well after 6 months and very few showings the listing expired and they called me, off of one of my expired letters, of course. Anyway, now they are a little desperate. Hey, a vacant house with $1,500 a month payments gets old real quick. So I did an analysis for them and decided the house was worth $235,000 to $239,000. The only problem is, there are about 30 just like it, on the market. Since they now need a quick sale, I suggested Range Pricing it from $219,000 to $239,000 trying to sell at $229,000. They won't make any money on it but they can recoup their money and get out before it gets worse. Flip flopped. Lesson learned. I hope.

Now as expected, Realtors are knocking the doors down to show Buyers this property. It's new. It's priced below market. And it will sell quickly. I am extremely confident it will be under contract before Christmas.

So anyway, my phone rings. "Hello, Tutas Towne Realty, the incredibly good looking and smart Broker Bryant here, how can I help you?" "Yes, I just showed your listing and my Buyer loves it and would like to make an offer." Trying not to sound excited I say, "Well that's great. Why don't you fax it over with a pre-approval letter and I will contact the Seller right away and see if we can get a deal negotiated." He says, "Well, my Buyer wants to negotiate verbally first" OK, now I don't do verbal, but thought I would at least hear him out before I make him write it up, "My Seller won't negotiate verbally but go ahead and tell me what you got?" He says, "My buyer would like to offer $200,000 and he wants the Seller to pay $8,000 in closing costs."

For some reason my excitement left me, "Does your Buyer really think he is going to get that house for $192,000? Did you look at the price? The property is Range Priced from $219,000 to $239,000 and the recent comparable sells have been in the $239,000 to $245,000 range. Anyway, it's not my house or my decision to make but I will step out on a limb here and tell you that there ain't no way in hell the Sellers are going to even look at this offer. But listen if you want to write it up and send it over I will present it to the Sellers, after all it is their house. Just don't hold your breath on this one."

So, he then proceeded to give me a 10 minute speech on how this was a Buyer's market and how homes are not selling and how he feels this is a good deal and they may never get another offer and blah, blah, blah...........

Well, to make a long story longer, he did say he would write it up and send it over to me on Monday. So we'll see. Like this deal will ever happen. My question is, since I don't work with Buyers, wouldn't it make sense to at least pull up comps before submitting an offer? Do you think having a clue as to the true market value would be helpful? I mean, this house is a pretty good buy. It's already priced right. It is the lowest priced home of this size in Poinciana and it's never been lived in.

The point is: My listings are already priced properly. My pricing strategy takes into consideration current market conditions and there is not much room for negotiating. And, if you are working with a Buyer, and want to try and get a deal, at least take the time to put the offer in writing. Give me something that's positive to show my Sellers. Do your homework. Representing your Buyer's best interest does not mean wasting their time or yours, by low balling houses that are already priced right. Get a clue. Real Estate is serious business and needs to be treated as such. Don't be a potato head!

Sometimes I just don't get other Realtors. I think I will send this guy an invite to ActiveRain, where the cream of the crop hang out. I bet you guys wouldn't do this. Would you?

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Comments(77)

Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time
Hey Rick, Welcome to my blog. It is definitely a Buyer's market and a great time to make a profit going in. Sellers are ready to sell and I have had several take very low offers just to be done with it. It's also important to remember that a lot of Sellers are flush with equity right now so coming down quite a bit, from the asking price, is doable. Just don't let your Realtor make the mistake this one made. Whether he wants to or not, he needs to write your offer up and make it look like you are a serious buyer, so the seller doesn't discount your offer. Good luck on finding the right property
Jan 08, 2007 07:49 AM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

Welcome Rick. Every now and then it's nice to have a Consumer come in and say things like:

"your discussion has restored some of my faith in the professional realtor vocation."

You have no idea how good that feels. Thank you for taking the time to express it. :)

TLW "The Lovely Wife"...Broker Bryant's Lovely Wife"...ROAR!

Jan 08, 2007 07:56 AM
Anonymous
rick

well, thank-you and you are welcome.

i will heed your advice to get all offers put into print. thanks again.

Jan 09, 2007 07:26 AM
#60
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL
Rick I hope you will stop by more often there is much wisdom to be had on these here Blogs. :) TLW...ROAR!
Jan 09, 2007 09:33 AM
Anonymous
truth

Realtors,

why should a buyer pay for overinflated prices by you vampires?  YOu overvalue the market, just to make yourselves richer anyways!  THe real estate prices have tripled and why should buyers be screwed, just because the "market" says the property is prices just "right"?  When I say triple, that is 300,000 dollars, not just 15,000 dollars!  Who in their right minds can afford that???   YOu must think every buyer is a moron, especially if you think they will buy ANYTHING, when real estate prices are at the highest prices ever.  I won't be a sucker, just because you say its right to buy!  You will say anything just to make a sale.    Guess what, foreclosures are tripling also, so prices will fall!  You vampires can't keep sucking the life out of buyers forever.  I hope prices drop like a rock and go back to when they were affordable, back in 2001.  That is when all you real estate agents bought, probably anyways, so you need to keep your tidy little investment profits in your greedy little pockets. It does not pay to be too GREEDY!

Feb 19, 2007 12:57 AM
#62
Anonymous
truth

Real Estate is about people not money.

What a liar!  ITs all about money and the more you can make, what do you care?  If you really cared, you would not sell at such overvalued real estate prices in the first place!  Don't lie like David Lereah! Everyone is watching!

Feb 19, 2007 01:02 AM
#63
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Hey Truth, Thanks for reading and chiming in. My market was very affordable but it was in late 2004 and 2005 when the prices really skyrocketed. In fact values doubled. Average price went from about $120,000 to $240,000. All of this increase was due to outside investors coming in and purchasing homes for the sole purpose of flipping for a profit. It really was insane. Now as you mentioned the values are coming down and foreclosures are on the rise. Values are down already about 10-15% and probably have that much more to go, at least in my area.

It's not a bad time to buy if you plan on living in the house for awhile. There are quite a few sellers who need to sell and you can get a fair price on a house. I don't work with buyers at all. I work for sellers.

So really it depends on your area and what you are purchasing for. If you are looking for a home to live in for the next 5 years or so, you can do OK. If you need a place to live for the next 3 years then rent.

I actually bought 3 investment properties at the peak of the market in 2004 and 2005. I still have them and plan on holding on to them for years. A investment can be made in ANY market if you take the time to shop AND you're not a flipper.

So if you don't own a property, do some homework and try to find something that will work for you. Don't let the negativity prevent you from owning a home if that's what you want to do.

Thanks for visiting my blog. You are welcome anytime. I have no problem with folks voicing their opinions. My only rules are no profanity and try your best to argue with respect for the person. Other than that have at it.

Feb 19, 2007 01:17 AM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

You handled that well.

Feb 19, 2007 10:32 AM
Jay McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Exeter, NH
Real Estate Broker
Yes he did, that's cause he is soooo goooood looooking and sooo suave. LOL
Feb 19, 2007 10:40 AM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

Being soooooooo charismatic helps...

So does that fact that he is not a liar :)

Feb 19, 2007 11:10 AM
Anonymous
truth
why was my previous post removed?  Broker bryant is a liar and removes truthful posts when he sees something he does not like.  Is that really fair?
Mar 11, 2007 05:29 AM
#68
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Truth, Your post was deleted because you don't seem to want to have an intelligent conversation about the issue. As I stated before:

"Thanks for visiting my blog. You are welcome anytime. I have no problem with folks voicing their opinions. My only rules are no profanity and try your best to argue with respect for the person. Other than that have at it."

Now since it's my blog, those are my rules. If all you want to do is call me a liar, when you couldn't be further from the "Truth" then you are not welcomed, at all.  As always I am more than happy to debate the topic. If you want to name call then you will be deleted from here on out, every time.

So if you are capable and able to back up your opinion with "truth" then by all means go for it. Your opinion is welcomed, your attitude is not. Is that clear enough for you?

 

Mar 11, 2007 06:30 AM
Rick & Ines - Miami Beach Real Estate
Majestic Properties - Miami Beach, FL
THAT's why we love you Bryant!
Mar 11, 2007 08:26 AM
Margaret Rome Baltimore 410-530-2400
HomeRome Realty 410-530-2400 - Pikesville, MD
Sell Your Home With Margaret Rome

What a perfect response! We have been waiting to see how BB would handle "truth". You answered like you live, upfront and honest. Thanks for answering. Most people would have just deleted all of these comments.

Mar 11, 2007 01:04 PM
Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Ines, You sure do know how to make a guy feel good. Thanks.

Margaret, I just spent some time reading back through these comments. I must say I have a way of bringing in some very hostile comments. Most come around but sometimes it's just hopeless. I do enjoy the discussions it's a shame some folks don't want to have a good debate but just want to start name calling. Oh well, nothing I can do about that. I rarely delete comments. Out of over 6,000 that I have received I have deleted 3. Everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Mar 11, 2007 01:21 PM
Jay McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Exeter, NH
Real Estate Broker

Nothing you would have said would probably have turned him around. He just doesn't get supply and demand. It would be interesting to see what line of work he is in. I did see his comment and i am glad you deleted it. he shoujld not have challenged TLW, that was uncalled for and childish.

He has no clue about you and your wife, and the way you run your business . It sounds like he is jealous and can't afford a home. Blame everyone else but himself.

Mar 11, 2007 01:43 PM
"The Lovely Wife" The One And Only TLW.
President-Tutas Towne Realty, Inc. - Kissimmee, FL

Hi Jay...

I agree with you on all points. I guess if you can't get 'The Broker' to play a childish game you might as well challenge the wife and see if she will. Which of course she will not :)

TLW...ROAR!

Mar 12, 2007 03:46 AM
Jay McGillicuddy
Berkshire Hathaway HomeServices Verani Realty - Exeter, NH
Real Estate Broker

It's too bad the "truth" couldn't have had a normal debate about the issues. BB would have enjoyed it. 

It was a mortal sin to attack you, no need for it.

Have a great day. Getting warmer up here. Thanks Jay

Mar 12, 2007 05:24 AM
Anonymous
truth

Its just annoying when realtors try to artificially try to keep prices high by advising their clients. if prices increased in the last 5 years by 100%, do you think the prices of home are truly realistic?  I know you will never admit it because your livelihood depends on it and you are acting on the almight dollar, but that is way too high and its not a True value of real estate.  You think lowballing is unrealistic for a seller because the buyer dropped the price 50,000?  Don't you think its unrealistic for prices to have increased way over 50,000 over the past few years also with artificial demand from investors and people buying homes they cant afford?  You are only thinking about yourselves and not both sides of the equation.  Greed is not good, especially in these times.   

Mar 14, 2007 09:52 PM
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Bryant Tutas
Tutas Towne Realty, Inc and Garden Views Realty, LLC - Winter Garden, FL
Selling Florida one home at a time

Truth, now that's better. I think most REALTORS(R) would agree that property value over the last few years were grossly inflated due to consumer demand. I think most would also agree that the market is now in for  a major downward adjustment due to the increase in inventory and most recently the shake up in the lending industry. In my area about 30% of the inventory is "investor" owned. These houses were bought with the intent to flip for a profit and now they are stuck. Foreclosures are on the rise and values are going to continue to come down. This is the same information I give my sellers. Unfortunately many are still stuck in the past and are reluctant to reduce prices based on current market conditions. I work for Sellers. My job is to look out for their interest not "both sides of the equation". It has nothing to do with looking out for my interest or greed. Not that there aren't greedy people in my profession but they are the minority.

BTW, there was no such thing as "artificial demand". The demand was real the inflated prices were artificial.

Hang around and read some of the info on this site with an open mind and your knowledge of these issues will be expanded with "truth" not propaganda. 

Thanks for visiting,

Mar 15, 2007 12:48 AM