So all of us have had a story or 2 to tell when working in the Real Estate business.  I have had a few myself.  But there is one recent story that I MUST tell for if nothing else to warn and educate both the consumer and my colleagues so it doesn't happen to you. Keep in mind as you read this whopper of a story that we here at Palm Beach Premier Real Estate was on the Buyer side of this transaction.

As we all know, on any transaction where the seller is a foreign national, it is required that 10% of the profits realized in the transaction be withheld until such time that all taxes are paid.  Otherwise, those dollars can be taxed to the buyer.  Remember the buyer must report that the seller is a foreign national.  But what happens when the transaction is a short sale?  I have previously discussed how to be an effective Boca Raton Short Sale expert and the following story demonstrates the importance of having the right team of experts in the transaction (like title companies and attorneys). 

Well, so here is my story...I wrote a contract for a property that was a luxury short sale here in Boca Raton and the Seller was a foreign national.  The seller hired a negotiation company that was associated with a larger Real Estate and Title firm here in Boca Raton.  The negotiator and title company (not attorney run) communicated with the seller who lives and works overseas for 4 MONTHS as it took that long to negotiate the short sale on this particular property. 

Okay, so we all get to the closing table at 2:30 pm and everyone was all excited.  My Buyers begin to sign all their loan documents and there is a document in there that references that the seller is a "non non-foreign national" - no I did not make that up! This is when the closing came to a LONGGGG pause.

The seller had attended University in the United States many years ago and because he had a student visa at the time, had a social security number for banking purposes.  The title company ASSUMED that because the seller had a social security number, that the 10% withholding did not apply in this case.  Turns out, it did.  But, because the transaction was a short sale, there were no proceeds to withhold as there was over a $100,000 loss  (mind you, he never refinanced and made the mortgage payments the entire time through the short sale process). 

So what do you do in this case?  The Title company called the seller's lender and requested that 10% be withheld due to the circumstances.  The lender declined and said that there was no room for the 10% to be withheld.  What was learned was that the title company was required to have applied for a tax waiver certificate which take approximately 60-90 days to obtain.  The title agent was a nervous wreck because they realized that they messed up.

In the meantime, the buyers had received financing for the purchase of this property and they had a closing date scheduled for the sale of their current home in a few weeks time as well.  This became a convoluted mess! 

After many phone calls to accountants and attorneys (both for the Buyer and Seller), in the end, the buyer and seller came together, signed agreements regarding the withholding tax and were able to close the transaction successfully.

 

 

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AUG
04
2011
215,324 Points 2 Featured Posts Hit Router Called Shot Master

What a story? They keep getting better and better. I'm glad it worked out in the end. Good for YOU....

11:20pm • #10
177,370 Points 2 Featured Posts Outside Blog

Gia, All is well that ends well... but the stress added and years taken off our lives is an occupational hazard!!

11:40pm • #11
309,748 Points 28 Featured Posts Outside Blog Called Shot Master

Crisis averted. But sometimes these problems cannot be resolved.

11:56pm • #12
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05
2011
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Gia - Catastrophe contained, and you all worked together to get it done.  Good warning to others.

12:42am • #13

It never ceases to amaze me what real estate agents and lenders have to go through today to close transactions!  Well done!

12:46am • #14
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Wow - I can just imagine the feeling in your stomach when you realized the situation.  Great job in getting it closed. 

1:18am • #15
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The seller incurred a loss in the sale of the property and no taxes were due. There were no proceeds to the seller from which to withhold. Even the IRS understands that situation. Do you think for a second that the lender would have approved a short sale in which some of the lender’s proceeds would have been withheld pending the filing of the seller’s tax returns?

1:29am • #16
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Wow!  I had a high-end short sale last year but fortunately didn't have this issue.  I'm glad they were able to work it out with a little help from the attorneys.

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Michael-Edward Cruz - my  understanding is that if the seller (and remember I had the buyer in this scenario) had refinanced and pulled out cash for a trip to Vegas or some other non-home improvement, then yes, the 10% would have had to have been collected.  In this case, there was no re-fi (THANK GOODNESS!) so nothing was collected.

Nestor & Katerina - this is why when I have the seller, I use a Real Estate Attorney to negotiate the short sale - it's their license on the line if they mess up (and most Real Estate attorneys are familiar with foreign national sales as they would have applied for the exemption certificate from the start).

Carol Pease - yes, it really did say "non non-foreign national" (which is definitely a double negative and what started the ball rolling on this - darn those double negatives! LOL).

Ann Wilkins - funny enough, I was very calm and put my business hat on - non-emotional (which really helped). My stomach after I left at 9:00 pm...well that was a different story. LOL  :)

John Juarez - I would agree with your statement regarding the loss HOWEVER I was informed by the title agent that the tax man can go after any other monies owed by the seller and have the profit from a real estate transaction be applied to it (in this case, this was his only property and no other property or business was owned in the US.)

Thank you all for the Congrats...much appreciated

4:18am • #18
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I can just see the reaction of  the lender taking a bath on this sale being asked. . we will not send you 10% until it is verified that the seller did not profit from the sale. .. ????????

7:40am • #19
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Gia, It is my understanding the lender is responsible for this, if they don't do it them falls to the title company and if it still isn't done the real estate could be responsible for collecting the 10%. Glad you were able to work this out.

9:36am • #20

Close call -- I deal with many foreign nationals and you do have to remind everyone about witholding tax --

 

Cheers

 

 

Gordon Robinson

10:11am • #21
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Very interesting short sale.

 

The bottom line is your short sale closed

10:50am • #22
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Gia, thanks for sharing the Nightmare of a story.  Thanks to you and your hard work, you closed the deal.  Great job.

11:15am • #23
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Gia- Welcome back to Active Rain and congrats on your Feature.  Good information to share, especially here in South Florida where we have many short sales as well as Foreign national sellers.  Sounds like a horror story for all parties.. and am glad everything turned out well. 

12:17pm • #24
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Good job getting the deal done Gia!

2:28pm • #27

Gia: Excellent information. Thank you. And congratulations on keeping it together and getting the closing done.

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