In my quest for getting support on the passage of DNA bills, I have been asked "Why do you have an interest in this?"  Okay, it is time for my story.

Let me start back when I was in grade school.  I walked a mile each way to school and several times different men would start circling the block in their cars either trying to get my attention or just staring at me.  It would scare the devil out of me and I would run through neighborhoods to lose them.  When I told my mom about this, she said turn around and write down their license plate number.  It was a great idea, but I never was able to get over the urge to run.  One time I was playing at a close by playfield with a couple of friends, and a man was on the other side of a high fence (exposed) saying "I will pay you $1 to watch me."  This "following me in cars" continued througout high school.

When I was in my 30's I started receiving calls at my home and work (of a sexual nature) and it turned out to be a supervisor that had gotten home telephone numbers from a list that work provided.  He called many women that worked in the office and in the end was transferred.  The police probably should have been called.

I have been a volunteer for the Seattle Crisis Line and a Victim's Advocate for, what was at the time called, King County Rape Relief.

In July of 1995, one of my cousins was found murdered in Monroe, Washington (she had been badly beaten and I do not know what else) and the person that did it has not yet been found.

Those are more than enough reasons to want to do something about people that conduct sex crimes.   So, I am supporting bills that expand the list of qualifying offenses; and trying to get a law passed, here in Washington State, like Katie's Law

Washington State HB 1023 - 2007-08 provides for broader collection of DNA samples for the CODIS identification system.  The following is the list of the "expansion of qualifying offenses" that is currently in the bill:

  • Animal Cruelty in the second degree;
  • Assault in the fourth degree;
  • Custodial Sexual Misconduct;
  • Failure to Register as a Sex Offender;
  • Indecent Exposure;
  • Malicious Mischief in the third degree;
  • Patronizing a Prostitute;
  • Possession of Stolen Property in the third degree;
  • Prostitution;
  • Sexual Misconduct with a Minor in the second degree;
  • Theft in the third degree;
  • Unlawful Harboring of a Minor and Criminal violations of a protection order.

Remember that these DNA samples are only taken after a person that is convicted.  The sample is gathered via a cheek swab.  The following is the recommended list of "Additional Qualifying Offenses" that I received from the Washington State CODIS Lab Administrator when I was on tour last week:

  • Animal cruelty in the second degree
  • Assault in the fourth degree
  • Coercion
  • Custodial sexual misconduct in the second degree
  • Cyber stalking
  • Failure to register as a sex offender
  • Indecent exposure
  • Malicious mischief in the third degree
  • Possession of stolen property in the third degree
  • Reckless endangerment
  • Sexual misconduct with a minor in the second degree
  • Telephone harassment
  • Theft in the third degree
  • Unlawful harboring of a minor
  • Aiming or discharging firearms, dangerous weapons
  • Criminal impersonation in the second degree
  • Dangerous weapons
  • Domestic violence-any misdemeanor or gross misdemeanor crime committed by one family or household member against another
  • Duty in case of personal injury or death or damage to attended vehicle or another property
  • Escape in the third degree
  • Making or having burglar tools
  • Patronizing a prostitute
  • Possession of another's identification
  • Prostitution
  • Reckless burning in the second degree
  • Riot
  • Vehicle prowling in the second degree
  • Violation of court orders issued under chapter 26.50, 10.99, 26.09, 26.26, or 74.34, and foreign protection orders as defined in RCW wy.52.020
  • Weapons apparently capable of producing bodily harm

You probably noticed that some of these offenses do not have anything at all to do with sex crimes.  Law enforcement research will show you that may times people involved with sex crimes have conducted other crimes in the past--some they call stepping stones (like animal cruelty).

And for you that do not know, the other law I am interested in, Katie's Law (still to be written here in Washington State), is to be able to take a DNA sample upon arrest.  This not only saves lives, by finding people that are wanted for crimes elsewhere, it also clears people that are innocent.  One of my representatives wrote back to me; "I strongly support the collection of DNA samples from persons convicted of the above crimes, but I would not advocate for the collection of DNA from persons simply arrested on felony charges.  In order to preserve democracy, I believe it is critical that we continue to presume innocence until the accused is declared guilty by a court."  The law has nothing to do with presuming someone is innocent or guilty.  It is simply another tool, exactly like a fingerprint, used to see if the arrestee's DNA was found, dealing with a crime, elsewhere.  Fingerprints are always taken whenever someone is arrested and there is no presumption of guilt.

We have a very liberal state here and I am getting "push-back" from people for reasons that are not valid.   The information that goes into the CODIS national database has no more information than is on a fingerprint.   There is not genetic information that an insurance company may be interested in--if someone uses that as an argument against this--they are just plain wrong.   You cannot even look people up in the CODIS database if you know someone's name--it is not there! 

In my research I came across a very interesting chart provided by the National Conference of State Legislatures, "State Laws on DNA Data Banks Qualifying Offenses, Others Who Must Provide Sample," (September 2007)  It lists what every state is doing regarding their collection of DNA samples.  For instance, it shows the eleven states that now are collecting DNA samples upon arrest.

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7 Comments on Why I have an Interest in Passing DNA Bills

OCT
22
2007
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To be honest, I would have no problem with them taking samples for ANY felony arrest.  I know the liberals will have me for that, but if they have a problem giving their DNA then I would recommend not committing any felonies!
4:18pm • #1
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I'm quite sure the liberals wouldn't claim me, however, this list can easily be expanded, once the barn door is open, to include many things that you might not want on it.  The fact that it evidently HAS been expanded to include many things that it has simply proves my point. 

In the case of conviction for violent crimes, absolutely take the DNA.  However, I'm not best pleased that I have to give my fingerprint AND my social security number simply to get a driver's license in my state these days, we're about to have to get an FBI approved fingerprint in order to renew our real estate licenses, and the government promised, when the social security number was assigned to everyone, in the face of major objections to such an idea, that it would NEVER be allowed to be used for anything other than social security purposes, even by another government agency, never mind anyone outside of the government. 

Do you see where I'm going with this?  By the way, DNA upon arrest?  Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?  Are we going to let fear destroy everything that this country stands for?

Be careful what you wish for.

 

 

4:27pm • #2
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Hi Jonathan, thank you for the note.  I think that would be a good first step.

Hi Tricia,   Regarding the expansion of the list, the list is still being decided upon.   I understand your fear of people having your social security number--that should be a concern.   I am not concerned about someone taking my fingerprint--they took mine when I started to work at the FAA in my 20's.  The DNA identification system does not have names tied to it.  It only matches it's own DNA.  The expansion of the list of qualifying offenses is adding serious crimes.  

Regarding the second law to allow taking DNA upon arrest of certain crimes.  As I said in my post, It has nothing to do with "innocent until proven guilty."  The DNA sample is being taken to see if the arrestee has DNA on file in the CODIS database that ties them to any other serious crime.

Let's say you have a pet cat or dog (or as in a recent case a horse) that turned up having been torchered and there is DNA evidence that could tie someone to the crime.  Then later the person that had actually committed the crime against your animal is arrested for something else.  Would you not want that person identified as the one that hurt your animal.    People that abuse animals do not do it just once--the same with rape, rapists usually do not do it just once.

If you look at the Katie's Law website, there is a link to case studies, you will see an example of Chester Turner (California) that was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon in 1987.  He was not convicted.  He was arrested a total of 21 times before he was ever formally convicted of a crime.  In 2002 he was convicted of rape, his DNA was taken, and it was found to match twelve other unsolved rape and murder cases.  The first of these victims was raped in March of 1987.  DNA taken upon his first felony arrest could quite possibly have saved the next eleven lives."

 

5:17pm • #3
OCT
23
2007
First, I'm sorry that you encountered such things in your youth and thirties. Secondly, I am for giving DNA upon arrest. Technology and science has advanced so many fields, why not this one? Also, I am for anything that works to prevent violation of my body. Many of my friends have been raped, and I would not like to have it happen to anyone else.
8:33am • #4
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Hi Danielle,  Thank you for the note.  I just spoke on the telephone with the assistant to Washington State Senator McCaslin that last year sponsored SB 5095 2007-08 (which is very close to Katie's Law).  He said that there was a road block by Senator Adam Kline (37th District), Chairman of the Judiciary.  I am going to call him and see what he has to say.   If I have no luck, that may be where we have to start with our email and phone call chains.  He is the "gate keeper."  That is how New Mexico got their bill passed.
12:57pm • #5
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I'd like to say, from personal experience, that there can be full recovery from rape.  It doesn't have to, and shouldn't, define you - there's a whole lot of life that has nothing to do with that one incident.
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Hi Tricia,  Thank you for your comment, I am glad that you were able to put the rape behind you.  Some people, for whatever reasons, have a harder time doing so.  It is a horrific crime and terrible that anyone has had to go through it.
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