Water in crawl spaces

Here in the Seattle area we are known to receive a fair share of precipitation. It is no surprise to me  when I crawl under a home and find ponding, pooling water. Modern homes typically have a footing drain installed around the exterior foundation perimeter during construction. Inside the space they may also have a footing drain. Sometimes these systems are inadequate or have been crushed during back filling. I see so many interior footings drains clogged with mud, and some are roughed in but never cut to length.

Water is a destructive force. It has been called the "universal solvent" and there is some truth to that. In a crawl space standing water may reduce the load bearing capacity of the soil to cause footings, and foundations to sink.

A more common concern is the elevated levels of moisture in the crawl space. These levels create an environment that is conducive for wood destroying organisms (WDO's). In my service area, I see mostly fungal wood rot decay as the most common WDO. However I do see Anobiids, (wood boring beetles), Dampwood Termites, Moisture  and Carpenter Ants.

It is very important to correct the drainage defect in order to remove the conducive conditions for these WDO's.

Here is a crawl space that has been neglected for years. Water was allowed to pool in the space, with no vapor barrier, and inadequate crawl space ventilation.

The floor system is significantly weakened as a result of Anobiid (wood boring beetle) activities and fungal wood rot.

Sometimes the water problems in the crawl space can be directly attributed to a defective gutter system. It would amaze many people how much water the roof system collects. When this water is discharged at the base of the structure, it is no mystery that it will find its way to lowest point, which is under the home.

The worst drainage problem I have ever encountered was several years ago on a beautiful high end home near Snohomish. The home had been meticulously maintained by its' owners, and during the inspection I was not finding any material defects.

Upon entering the crawl space everything changed. The crawl space clearance was 6 feet plus. The deepest end of the space was about 12 feet. The problem was that the water had no where to go. It continued to fill up this space until it looked like a swimming pool. The only dry ground in this space was at the access, and along some of the upper concrete footing ribbons. Everything else was a pond.

I wish I had before and after pictures, but this inspection took place before I was using digital cameras as an inspection tool. The water lines on the foundation were over 5 feet high in some places.

Needless to say the sellers' were shocked. Like most homeowners, they never entered their crawl space. The house was new when they purchased it, and they had no reason to believe a problem existed. I know these folks would have had the problem addressed had they been aware.

After pumps were installed to remove the water, it was found that an underground spring had changed course and was dumping water into the space. The drainage contractor came up with a permanent system designed to remove this water.

...And the buyers, they did purchase the house.

 

 

5 Comments on Water in crawl spaces

Harold, Great story and good pix.  Glad there was so much cooperation between seller and buyer.  If it was a foreclosure the house would have sat a mighty long time.  I wonder some times why people put in crawl spaces at all, especially in a case like this where you have so much height on one end.   I hate wet crawl spaces. I've got a picture of one I had last year that was actually hilarious.  If I can find it I'll be back. 

10/24/2007 02:51 PM by Bill Duncan (Home Status Inspection Company, LLC)


So true about some foreclosed properties. Some have been inspected so many times that you can see where all the previous inspectors have crawled through the space before you. (....like wagon ruts on the Oregon Trail)

About crawl spaces: It is so common having crawl spaces here in Western Washington. The exact reason escapes me, ....probably because I am not a geo-techincal engineer.

I have always assumed that the footing depths are a balance between being deep enough to firmly rest on load bearing soils, and not being so deep that they are below water tables. Our soils vary throughout the region and in some cases you do see some slab on grade construction. Split level homes, and daylight basements are actually pretty common but still a fraction when compared to those with crawl spaces.

In fact we purchased a split-level, and to me the absence of the crawl space is a bonus.

I hope you can find those pics you referred to. I will look forward to them.

10/24/2007 03:18 PM by Harold Miller (Everett Home Inspector) (Miller Home Inspection)


Harold, are you finding that new construction is mostly without crawl spaces.  I can count on one hand the crawl spaces I've inspected in homes that have been built since 2000.  This makes me think that we are beginning to figure this thing out. 

10/24/2007 05:05 PM by Bill Duncan (Home Status Inspection Company, LLC)


Not in our area.  The new construction homes being cranked out here continue to mostly have crawl spaces. Rarely do we see true slab on grade homes in residential construction.

However the great percentage of multi-family here has routinely been slab on grade construction.

Recently I was talking a friend of mine who moved over to Spokane, where alot of the homes are constructed with basements. He said there was a Seattle builder who tried to construct homes with crawl spaces in the Spokane market, and my friend said those houses sat on the market much longer as a result. I guess over on that side of the mountains everyone wants the basements.

I don't think the crawl spaces will go away here anytime soon.

10/24/2007 05:18 PM by Harold Miller (Everett Home Inspector) (Miller Home Inspection)


Harold,

Sorry to hear about that. Although we have killer traffic, So I guess it balances out.   I do find that crawl spaces are a unique glimpse into the guts of a house.  Sometimes better than you get any other way. 

10/24/2007 05:28 PM by Bill Duncan (Home Status Inspection Company, LLC)


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