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Secret Shoppers & Secret Sellers in Today’s Real Estate Market

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Real Estate Broker/Owner with Mint Properties, Lic. #01871795 Lic. #01871795

Secret Shoppers & Secret Sellers in Today’s Real Estate Market

The theme for this week was definitely secrecy. There seems to be a lot of secrecy going on right now in the housing market. I can’t turn around without crashing into it. I’m sure all real estate agents have at one time or another bumped into a home that is listed on the MLS and there is no sign or lockbox. When you ask the agent why -- they tell you that the seller doesn’t want anyone to know the home is for sale. Interesting. I guess they haven’t learned about the power of syndication. If it’s on Zillow, chances are your neighbors are going to know. Also, you really need to bar all of those Realtors that advertise themselves on their cars from coming over. The big RE/MAX sign on that minivan is a dead give away that something is going on next door.

But this week, rather than the garden variety "secret seller," I encountered some odd variations.  The week began with a “secret buyer.” An agent wrote an offer on one of my short sales from a buyer and "designated family members.” I had to let the agent know that although I do appreciate a certain amount of intrigue, Bank of America doesn’t, especially on their short sales. So, if her client wanted to buy a Bank of America short sale she was not only going to have to identify them specifically, she was going to have to fork over their date of birth and the first five digits of their social security number.

Next was a listing that was vacant, but no sign and no lockbox. There were strict orders not to “approach” the home. (Does it bite?) And, the listing agent must accompany all showings. No explanation was given in the agent remarks, but there was an instruction to “call for disclosure.” I looked at the home several times online, and thought about how long that phone call was going to take. (What was it -- a bat infestation? A hole in the middle of the living room floor? And how would the presence of the listing agent make it better?) I figured, chances are, whatever the situation was that it couldn’t be disclosed openly in the MLS, it was going to be so nutty that it wouldn’t be worth dealing with -- just my gut feeling. So, I decided to skip the 30 minute explanation and use my time to set up a showing of a non-secret home for sale.

Shortly thereafter though, I encountered another secret sale. This one owned by a real estate agent. Again, no sign, no lockbox (you sly devil!) He didn’t want his tenant to know the home was for sale. Uh-huh. He instructed me to park in the driveway (why?) and to avoid the tenant’s room and any conversations about the home being for sale. I asked him how I would explain the family I was bringing with me. He said he wanted to limit the showings to just a couple people at a time. (Nice, I guess we’ll just leave grandma in the car then?) I asked him how he was going to explain these groups of “friends” coming over in 15 minute intervals who wanted to peek at all the rooms. He didn’t think it would strike his tenant as odd at all. <Sigh> I told my client about the details of the proposed showing experience and surprise, surprise -- they declined the showing! When I called to let the agent know -- he actually said “Was it something I said?” I wanted badly to say “No, it was everything you said!"  But I didn’t -- I exercised every bit of self control I had and waited until AFTER I hung up the phone to start laughing.

I am, after all, a professional -- although that information is strictly confidential.

Tni LeBlancis an independent Real Estate Broker, Attorney,Short Sale Agent, Certified HAFA Specialist (CHS), and Certified Distressed Property Expert (CDPE) serving the Santa Maria, Orcutt and Five Cities area of the Central Coast of California.

*  Nothing in this article is intended to solicit listings currently under contract with another broker.  This article offers no legal or tax advice and is for information purposes only.  Those considering a short sale are advised to consult with their own attorney for legal advice, and their tax professional for tax advice prior to entering into a short sale listing agreement.  Mint Properties is not associated with the government, and our service is not approved by the government or your lender. Even if you accept this offer and use our service, your lender may not agree to change your loan.

Copyright © 2011 Tni LeBlanc *Secret Shoppers & Secret Sellers in Today’s Real Estate Market*

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Jim McCormack
Nashville Short Sale Specialist - Jim McCormack - Edge Advantage Realty, LLC - 615-796-6898 - Murfreesboro, TN
Nashville Short Sale REALTOR - Stop Foreclosure

Funny stories.

Sep 12, 2011 04:24 AM
Linda Humphrey
Humphrey Home Connections Realty, Reno, Nevada - Reno, NV
CRS, Broker/Owner HHC Realty

Wow, some people have a seriously overinflated sense of their own importance. News Flash: Your neighbors probably couldn't care less that your house is for sale. Maybe they're even GLAD! They'll figure it out when the moving van arrives in any event. As for the poor uninformed renter, that is beyond lame. Now that we know his MO, what else isn't that agent disclosing?

Sep 12, 2011 06:10 AM
Jim Paulson
Progressive Realty (Boise Idaho) www.Progressive-Realty.info - Boise, ID
Owner,Broker

I agree about BofA's secrets.  I find less than humorous that they ask for the buyer's current address, first five number of their social security number and their birthday but they don't provide the buyer privacy statements or tell them that they are going to pull a "soft" credit application on them!  Maybe I should invite a "class action attorney" to make an offer on a Bank of America short sale and see what happens.  Now that would be funny!

Sep 12, 2011 06:35 AM
Leslie G. Rojohn
MoonDancer Realty - Sylva, NC
GRI, ABR ~ MoonDancer Realty

Well, secret professional, I have no doubt that success in real estate has never been, nor will ever be a problem for you. But just in case, you are a natural born comedian. You need to write a real-estate comic book.  The Adventures of Tni LeBlanc. I know I'd buy it.

Sep 12, 2011 07:33 AM
Elva Branson-Lee
Solid Source Realty GA - Atlanta, GA
CDPE - Atlanta Real Estate & Short Sale Agent

Tni, this is so funny. Thanks for the chuckles at the end of a long and trying day or "real estating". This reminds me why I love this busuiness so much!

Sep 12, 2011 12:23 PM
Digital Digital
Alachua, FL
full service

Hi Tni,
This is way…… too funny. I will bookmark, so whenever I'm having one of those days, I can retrieve, read and laugh away whatever is bothering me.
Thanks for sharing!

Sep 12, 2011 04:08 PM
Anonymous
Anonymous

Dear Tni,

I had to laugh so hard at your descriptions. It is hard enough to sell non-secret listings in this market; keeping them secret would make it pretty much impossible, unless one of your friends or family wants the place.

Sep 12, 2011 05:02 PM
#31
Stu Dye
Mortgage Network, Inc. NMLS #2668 - Portland, ME
Senior Loan Officer

Tni,

You must have had fun writing this blog, 'cause I sure had fun reading it.

-Stu Dye

Sep 13, 2011 12:47 AM
Caryn Baker
Realty Pros & Assoc. - Ormond Beach, FL

Don't you love it!  I just don't understand how buying or selling real estate is "confidential"...

Sep 13, 2011 03:47 AM
Ray Teerlink
Arizona Elite Properties - Gilbert, AZ
Realtor, Short Sale Listing Agent

Gotta love the people that want everything secret. if they're keeping the sale secret, why not a material defect? Well written, thank you for the article.

 

Sep 13, 2011 07:43 AM
Anonymous
Sherry Swift

WOW thanks for giving a good laugh today. You always think you've heard of everything then you hear more!

Sherry

Sep 13, 2011 01:06 PM
#35
Kasey & John Boles
Jon Gosche Real Estate, LLC - BoiseMeridianRealEstate.com - Boise, ID
Boise & Meridian, ID Ada/Canyon/Gem/Boise Counties

Gosh, now I'm curious about that middle one where the agent had to accompany.  I probably would have called just out of curiosity.  It is bizzarre that someone selling their home would want it to be a secret. -Kasey

Sep 13, 2011 05:19 PM
Patricia Kennedy
RLAH@properties - Washington, DC
Home in the Capital

Hey, Tni!  I included this post in Last Week's Favorites.   Have a great Sunday!

Sep 18, 2011 02:56 AM
Pat Tasker
Shorewest Realtors - Germantown, WI
Your Milwaukee Metro Area Agent (WI)

I HATE it when listing agents have to accompany on the showing!  and you know what?  so do the buyers!

Sep 18, 2011 03:53 PM
Anna Tolstoy
Coldwell Banker Residential Brokerage - Natick, MA

Tni, you are the best! I will add small thing to your collection: how about an open hopsue that has NO open house sign? I've seen condos and town homes with limited advertisement of open hosues, which is understandable,  but this one was a single family house in a neighborhood where you can openly put several signs directing to your OH and then some. I was driving, then walking around few times, not sure if this was THE one or not. Then I thought what the heck, I ring the door bell. The agent then appeared and let me in, and explained that sellers didn't want the neighbors to know house is for sale...

Sep 19, 2011 11:14 AM
Linda K. Mayer
License # 01767321 - La Verne, CA
Realtor, SRES, SoCAL, A REALTOR YOU CAN TRUST

This is hilarious!  And I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why a short sale has to be by appointment only.  I mean, if you're going to all the trouble to try and short sale your home, don't you want to get the job done?

Sep 19, 2011 11:59 AM
Elite Home Sales Team
Elite Home Sales Team OC - Corona del Mar, CA
A Tenacious and Skilled Real Estate Team

A sense of humor is needed to deal with these situations. LOL Sorry it is an unusual set of circumstances.

Dec 26, 2011 04:16 PM
Jordon Wheeler
The Jordon Wheeler Group - Fairburn, GA
J W Group Real Estate Sales and Service

Hi Tni, I am LMAO!  I had a secret seller also who didn't want his tenants to know he was listing with me.  I asked him how would he explain my presence and me taking pictures.  He said 'don't worry, just don't tell them you're an agent.'  Too funny.  And there's the seller who only shows between 2PM and 4PM on Tuesday and Thursday with no weekend access.  Thank you for identifying these folks!  Best of success to you 2012!

Dec 26, 2011 05:38 PM
Bas Panch
SCV Home Buyer - Valencia, CA

Hi Tni,

You are hilarious. All your posts are always so entertaining and well-written. I guess you have to have a good sense of humor to survive in real estate. Keep up the good work as a top Santa Maria short sale agent!

Jun 29, 2012 01:31 PM
Katerina Gasset
The Gasset Group & Get It Done For Me Virtual Services - Provo, UT
Amplify Your Real Estate & Life Dreams!

Hi Tni,I like this blog,really fun.I love your sense of humor.Thanks for sharing this blog,this really made my day.Keep it up being the best Santa Maria Short Sale Agent.

Aug 30, 2012 04:33 AM