Mandatory sprinkler systems in all homes - What do you think?

Passed in October 2006 all new homes in Frederick County Maryland are required to have a sprinkler system installed. I agree that residential properties such townhouses and condos should have them because you never know about your irresponsible neighbor that may be carelessly smoking or rewired his home on his own.

What about single family homes where no other homes are nearby and on well water. This is just another large cost that is making homes less affordable for everyone in the area. The builders will just tack that on top of all their other costs. Frederick County Impact /permit  fees alone are about $15K. 

I am currently building my new home (a log home in fact) and my wife and I initially started the process of plans prior to October 2006.  I heard nothing of this proposal until right before the county commissioner passed it. Well there went my budget up about another $10K. I have received 3 estimates at $8500, $10000, and $12000. My home will be about 3200 sq. ft including the basement.  

With my home being on a well an not pumping 25 gallons per minute (appears that this will increase to over 30 soon if it hasn't already) I also need to put a 300 gallon tank (compare that to about a 50 gal. hot water heater) with a pump in my basement. Great there went some of my basement space and a huge monstrosity to look at. Oh, I hope you aren't going to have a single level home without a basement and no garage. Maybe that would look nice next to the refrigerator. 

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Also since I have a log home many spaces may be exposed. I just love to look at pipes running along the ceiling and sprinkler heads sticking out of walls. It kind of makes it a warehouse type of environment, just what I had pictured for my dream home.  I also need to find some type of sprinkler heads that don't seem to stick out too much. The standard white just won't look right in an all wood home.

I am sure some people think it's a good idea. Of course it can save lives and property. Although if these things go off they probably cause more damage from the water. I also hope the fire doesn't start in the basement. Since the 300 gallon tank is plastic...well that will be melted pretty quick. I believe there is always a certain amount risk with everything. That's how is will always be. More people die in car accidents everyday far more than home fires. Does that mean I should stop driving. Next maybe we will be required to build our entire home out of concrete with fire proof furniture. I don't even think the victims from the California wildfires want to rebuild like that.

This is from the National Fire Sprinkler Association "At least four times each year, a full sprinkler system inspection should be performed by a knowledgeable professional. Some states and cities require more frequent inspections." That may just put me in the poor house. Well actually since homes prices will go up about $10K, now that will cover my inspections since my commission will go up. Wait...less people will be buying especially in our area since it will be even less competitively priced as surrounding areas. So much for that!

 What do you all think?

I'm sure this is coming to other areas around the nation.  Watch out!

 

 
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18 Comments on Mandatory sprinkler systems in all homes - What do you think?

I was actually unaware of the sprinkler system law in single family homes!!  Thanks for the Blog

10/25/2007 02:13 PM by Cynthia Mader (Long and Foster Real Estate inc.)


This is not a law in Florida, but I'm surprised the insurance companies haven't lobbied for this to be a nationwide law.

10/25/2007 02:26 PM by Lisa Hill (Daytona Beach REALTORĀ®) (Adams Cameron and Company)


haha, wow that is going to really raise the price of building a home (as it did with you).  Looks like your market is going to be a tough one, good luck.  

10/25/2007 03:05 PM by Stephen Joos & Chris Brubaker- HouseFront (HouseFront)


I was VERY surprised to read this blog...I can't believe something like this would be mandatory...I bet businesses related to sprinkler systems are pretty excited!  This adds another inspection item or special stip into your contract...yippy!

10/25/2007 03:28 PM by Carl Martens (Richterkessing, Inc.)


Mr Smith, Et Al..,

 I am in the Fire Sprinkler Industry. Please believe me when I say I understand all of your concerns. I also have served as a volunteer fire fighter for many years. As such, I have seen the good, the bad, and the ugly. I think a little background may help some of your concerns. In the late 1970's, a report named "America Burning" indicated that 80% of fire deaths occur in the home. That same report was recently revisited, "America Still Burning", and indicated 80% of fire deaths occur in the home. It is very logical to assume that Condos and others (read transient lodging), really should have sprinklers. It is also logical for our homes to have them. Nobody knows your home like you. But even with all steps taken to ensure a safe home, the fact is, things happen, or something fails (wiring etc...). Fire sprinklers serve to protect and safeguard what you value most,, your family. These home systems (officially 13D, after the NFPA standard), are designed to provide you with an extra 10 minutes of time to escape. That explains the size of your tank. Approximately 30gpm for 10 minutes. It is calculated based on 2 sprinklers flowing around 13gpm each. 90% of the fires are controlled by only one sprinkler. In a fire event in a sprinklerd home, the average amount of water used is around 272 gallons. In an unsprinklered home the fire continues to grow, hopefully after you have gotten out, and the responding fire dept will use around 4500 gallons, due to the now larger size of the fire. A fire doubles in size every 30 seconds. A room normally becomes "fully involved", after 1 minute 40 seconds. These numbers are real. Scottsdale, AZ placed a sprinkler requirement into effect in the late 80's. They are 10 year and 15 year reports out that give all the info. Also, the only thing most people know about fire sprinklers, is what is in the movies. Only the sprinkler next to the fire goes off. They do not all come on. They have a heat sensitve element, normally a glass bulb. At around 155°F, it will break and water discharges on the fire. I have all the information and answers available if anyone would like more info. I apologize if this is long. I just think getting the truth out about these life saving systems is important. If anyone has any questions, please feel free to contact me direct matt@livingwaterfp.com and I will happily assist.

R/

Matt

10/26/2007 11:08 AM by Matthew J. Willis, CET


Matt- I don't disagree with your facts and the main fact that it can and will save lives. Although this is just another govt. regualtion that should not be pushed on the consumer. Next they will say we can only buy SUVs since they are larger less people die in them as a result of a crash. Well there goes my toyota corolla. Then they will ban my double cheeseburger I love so much at McDonalds since it causes heart disease.

It should be the publics choice to make their own decision on certain risks as long as it doesn't affect others. Sure I can hear people saying now that it does affect others such as obesity causes health care costs to go up. Well that's another whole issue.

There will always be risks in life but they need to be weighed out. How many people do you personally know that has died in a fire. I can't think of one myself and can only think of a couple home fires of people I even know.

It's sprinklers now next it may be you can have any trees within a 100yds of your home in case a forest fire starts.

10/26/2007 11:33 AM by Craig Smith, Frederick MD Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


Wow - I read the post and thought what a horrible imposition. Being a conservative I HATE government intrusion on our personal lives.

I am told I MUST wear a seatbelt or receive a ticket (even though motorcyle licenses are allowed to operate with no protection for the driver, and in the case of many states, including my own, helmets are not required.

Restaurants are forbidden from using TRANS FATS... (Aren't I in charge of my own nutritional choices)

Small bar and restaurant owners no longer have the choice of allowing a smoking environment.

The list goes on and on. The government is always telling you what is best for you. I DO agree with Matthew that sprinkler systems save lives, and perhaps these manufacturers should do more to educate consumers so that they will willingly buy them, but it's not the governments place to make it mandatory.

10/26/2007 11:34 AM by Ralph Nudi (Weichert, RealtorsĀ® - Unum Properties)


You will get no argument from me about Gov't imposed rules and regs. That is why I chose to post. I think with proper knowledge, sprinklers will sell themselves. I know it is hard to believe, but they can SAVE you money when used with proper gov't regs. Relaxed building material uses (fire rated). Longer cul-de-sac runs. Smaller and farther spacing of hydrants.. et cetera. In the Scottsdale report, it is estimated to have saved over 7 million dollars in water infrastructure costs over the 10 year period. More and more jurisdictions are now starting to require them, so it becomes tough getting the truth ahead of the "required" phase. And hopefully, we will never have to experience such a cruel life, as living without the double cheeseburger would be.

R/

 

Matt

10/26/2007 11:52 AM by Matthew J. Willis


Thanks Matt! Some good points I didn't think about with possible less infrastruture (fire hydrants, etc...) and cheaper building material. Maybe if they don't have to have more fire hydrants, fire fighters, etc... they will lower our taxes. Yeah, right!

I'll be on 9 acres w/ a well so fire hydrants don't affect me.

I think I'm going to Mickey D's now!

10/26/2007 12:08 PM by Craig Smith, Frederick MD Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


One more really important item, that pertains directly to the line of work you folks are in. In 2003, a bill was introduced into the Senate and Congress. I believe it was originally titled the The Fire Sprinkler Act of 2003. This bill serves to modify the Tax code. Currently the price of a sprinkler system is reduced against your home on a 39 year schedule.  This act will serve to make the reduction on a 5 year schedule. End result, the system pays for itself in 5 years. After that, and hopefully with reduced insurance costs (as much as 40% with some companies), the savings will be icing on the cake so to speak.

 

Respectfully,

 

Matt

10/26/2007 12:55 PM by Matthew J. Willis, CET


You are quick to point out the cost of a sprinkler system. What about the cost of a devastating fire? Well, I guess that wouldn't be bad for you as you'll have more people in the market for a new home to replace their burned-out one. When will people like you in the Real Estate Industry wake up? Why does it always take a tragedy to make people realize the value of a sprinkler system? The fact is (and you can check this) there has NEVER been a multiple fatality in a building that had a properly functioning fire sprinkler system. NEVER! Not only are the occupants spared, but the brave responders who risk their lives to protect  others' lives and property. What is a life worth???? And oh my, that unsightly tank in your basement! For shame! What about the savings in homeowner's insurance that is given for sprinklered residential properties? I don't seem to remember you mentioning that. I suggest you contact Matt who responded above and educate yourself before you go off spouting trivialities about such an important issue.

10/26/2007 01:20 PM by Frank Calise


Frank- Sure, us in the real estate industry. Then the consumer comes to us and cannot afford a home with all these new regulations the govt. puts into place and they wonder why they cannot afford a home. Hey tack on $10K here for the sprinkler, another $15K for impact fees, $10 more for transfer taxes, etc....

Open your eyes it's just another mandatory regulation with many more to come. Should the govt. now ban people living within 5 miles of the coast because of potential disasters such as hurricanes, no more homes on a earthquake fault line, it's too cold to live there you might be more susceptible to the flu, and sorry you poorer folks you can't live in a mobile home anymore it won't hold up in a large storm, don't forget maybe our homes should be made out of all steel materials so they don't burn, and let's make all homes single level since older folks die of falls down stairs.

If you want to put a sprinkler system in your own home fine that is your own choice. You can do it along with any other safety measures you feel are necessary. That's your right but don't regulate mine.

Frank- Don't lecture me on being more educated about the topic. So where does fire deaths rank in all fatalities? Well it isn't in the top 20 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0779147.html

Look, even out of all accidental deaths, fire,smoke & burns only account for 3.4% (this isn't even specifying just home fires). Since drowning is even greater than that lets ban pools at homes, better yet the govt. should close down all public pools, absolutely no swimming or surfing in the ocean anymore, and lets regulate the bathtubs used in homes that only allow an inch of water to fill up in them just in case.

 

 

10/26/2007 01:58 PM by Craig Smith, Frederick MD Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


I wasn't going to comment, but since Mr. Calise used my name...

Please do not use my name in your suggestions as I think you are WAY off base here. I am a simple engineering technician, and my math is adequate. But your statement that real estate agents would profit, makes no sense to me. If a home burns down, and one is built that is (counting fingers) One home. If the home does not burn down (saved by sprinklers), and another built, that is Two homes to sell. I think the point of this excellent blog is about telling one what they can or cannot do. If you do not want to wear a helmet or seatbelt, Don't. I am, because it is the better choice (made by the individual) The message I am trying to get across, is that once people learn the truth and savings of these systems, they will ask for them, and there will be no need for Gov't imposition on our life.

Matt

10/26/2007 02:12 PM by Matthew J. Willis


I think that they are ugly, but if they work and do the trick, hey why not!  Maybe you will also get a break from your insurance company if you have them!

10/28/2007 07:34 PM by Michael Klijanowicz - Relocation Specialist - Baltimore & Harford County (Baltimore & Harford County Maryland - Long and Foster )


Bob- You're parked? Are you having a little rendezvous with your wife at Gambrill Park overlook.

10/28/2007 08:58 PM by Craig Smith, Frederick MD Real Estate (Keller Williams Realty)


LOL...entertaining comments.  I understand all the points.  It's a double edge sword, but the government doesn't need to make it for me.

Just let me decide if I want it in my house!!!   

10/28/2007 10:17 PM by Bob Carney Licensed MD/PA Real Estate Agent (Long & Foster Real Estate, Inc.)


Some people have no lives. They usually LOVE to become elected officials and run everyone else's lives for them!

Too much Big Brother in this country by a long shot! Next they'll require all new homes to come equipped with a stationary bike and stair-stepper, to make sure we avoid the dangers of getting flabby. And wait for someone to come out with a stove that will only cook healthy food!

10/28/2007 10:44 PM by Laura Warden (Choices Real Estate)


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