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41 Comments on The Bidding War: When Winning Feels Like Losing
Tni - Yeah, bidding wars are pretty common down here in Los Angeles & Ventura counties too. Personally, I am sometimes shocked and amazed at the POS that garner bidding wars. Furthermore, many of my borrowers who have fiercely won some bidding wars and only learned that they overbid when the appraisal comes in low. That's never fun when they end up having to cancel the transaction because they're not willing to make up the difference.
On another note, I have often asked here on AR about how escalation clauses work. Professionally, I have never seen them except on that HGTV show. I've never seen anyone down here use this sales tactic. How does it work?
I like escalation clauses as well. I used them in the two deals I had before the market crashed. Not much need for that around here right now.
Nancy - I've see that as well. I have a second post planned on bidding wars, and the theme is exactly that -- Bidding Wars that Backfire. Hopefully I can get that out soon.
Thanks Charita! They are a great tool.
Hi Rich - Yes an escalation clause cuts through a lot. Not every buyer will use them, but they are effective for bidding wars. They also let the buyer know they put their best foot forward.
Thanks Carla - Glad you liked the post (and the picture!)
Thanks Barb!
Margaret - Lucky you! They were routine about two and a half years ago in my marlet. They are still a pretty regular occurrence but not as often.
Alan May - Yes, I can imagine that a seller could think that as well. I do my best to make the seller and listing agent know that the offer was written this way to demonstrate that this buyer wants the home more than any other buyer.
Jon Quist - I do as well. Those that aren't ready should really stay on the sidelines.
This makes me think of bidding on Ebay auctions and overbidding and then having buyers remorse after you win! It is essentially the same thing except with a way bigger budget.
I hate bidding wars but see a lot of them, probably 65% of my sales involve them and a higher percentage of the contracts I write, 'cause one loses some of the wars. I haven't seen an escalation clause used here?
Hi Tni - Bidding wars create appraisal problems. Unless you have the comps it becomes an exercise is futility. What is with the ads in your blog?
Tni, your title says it all. I don't know how many times I've watched buyers sit around and chew their fingernails waiting for the deal to be inked. Good stuff.
Anna - Yes, eBay is good for thrills. But going nuts over a staged home where the furniture doesn't even convey and bidding way over list may not be a good idea.
Karen - Yes, that is what you want to hear from a client before a bidding war -- that they think the property is unique enough to justify getting involved with that type of process.
Tamara - Glad you liked the post. Yes, buyers are surprised when they find out how competitive the market for foreclosures and short sales can be.
Michelle - Exactly, there is a price where it would not make sense. That's what I want to hear from my client. That they understand that and are considering that. It's not just about winning the bid -- it has to make sense. Sometimes if others are willing to make a mistake you have to be willing to stand back and allow it instead of jumping in and making a bigger one in the name of "winning."
Charlie - When an REO agent refuses to consider my escalation clause, I challenge them on it. Most of the time, we get past it. Other listing agents and REO agents see my escalation clause and think its great and want to borrow my language for their next bidding war.
Michael - Absolutely. An escalation clause is an excellent tool especially when the buyer is uncertain about how much they would have to pay to win but they just don't want to have to pay any more than they have to. Losing a house over $1000 is usually very hard to take.
Mark - LOL. You flatter me. I love the new picture by the way!
Donne - You are right you do have to keep in mind about appraisals. Escalation clauses are pretty straightforward. The offer increases by whatever increment selected ($1000, $2500, etc.) to beat the next highest bid. It is an effective tool and many agents never use them -- which is just fine with me. There are other details to it but those are the basics.
Ruthmarie - Did you get in real estate right before things went south? I think we may be similar in that regard. I got in real estate full time just as things went south - before that I was still working part time as an attorney. I think its better this way -- it has always been hard work. A lot of the "good time" agents fell away during the "bidding war" frenzy that we had about two or three years ago. It was just too much work!
Rosalie - Yes, I try to stay away from eBay. I'd rather go to the store where I can see the item and know what I am going to pay for it. Every single time I've gotten an item from eBay it is not exactly what I thought it was.
Marge - Our market was similar years ago. Sometimes 25 offers on properties. There is less and less now though. A home in really good condition or a cheap house will still cause a bidding war.
Conrad - You mean the spam? No clue - it happens from time to time.
Thanks Mike - Glad you liked the blog!
I allways recomend to my buyers to make there first offer there best and final offer based on the value of the property and not on the listed price.
Thanks for the shout out Tni. Escalation clauses are tricky here because many attorneys want in only after negotiation is over. But we're just...different =)
This is a great post and on a topic that I have not personally seen reported on. Nice job!
Great article. loved the comparison. Well made points.
Tni it can be so easy to get caught up in the frenzy of bidding and negotiating. Someone has to remain level headed and even when others don't we have to. Ah the thrill and agony of "winning."
What is an escalation clause?
I have used, buyer to pay _______over the highest price offer, with proof of the other offer.
Is that what you are talking about.
Tni, like you, I try to avoid them, but that isn't always possible.
One thing I've noticed, though. It's not always the buyers who get caught up in the compeition but their trusted buyer brokers. Being competitive comes with our territory, but it's not always entirely appropriate when we are representing the best interests of a client.
Tni, very well written post and well-deserved feature! I think you are wise to ask the buyers how they will feel if they "win", to make sure they really understand what they are doing. Some people want to "win" even when it isn't in their best interest.
Hi Tni,
I just want to say that you always have the best posts: informative, entertaining, interesting. Keep up the good work as a top Santa Maria short sale agent!
Hi Tni,Hands down one of the best that I have read about this subject. Awesome job! I know your local Santa Maria consumers will appreciate it!Best Wishes to you!